Pride in what we think we know is the hardest egg to crack, especially when combined with so-called 'inspiration' about Scripture, and worst of all about prophecy of Scripture, because what Christian doesn't want power to interpret all Scripture rightly?
I agree to a degree, what I found however is most or many Christian never understand their callings fully. God called some to be hands, some feet, some legs etc. but everyone wants to be a hand etc. Some people are called specifically just to try and reach other people by a witness unto their own lives, some by preaching to the masses, some by interpreting prophecy etc. Everyone wants to be a prophecy expert, but that doesn't mean some are not called unto that field and given these understandings, Satan just loves to confuse by putting forth 1000s of false ideas, given to them by him, or other men. TBH, most people should listen to those called to teach, or give ear to the holy spirit, but sadly many just can't seem to hear that small still voice.
Exactly. The greatest, and sometimes hardest lesson to learn for Christians, especially us who have been around awhile, is to never cease coming to Scripture and read the Bible, with any kind of attitude, that wwe are more than just little children still coming to the Master.
It's called objectively without any preconceived notions nor agendas.
Yes indeed, we have to come daily saying, SHOW ME Lord, and He will. For instance, when the Lord told me that His "Church already knows it all", I started thinking about what He wanted us to do, and that was to simply ask Him, what does this mean Lord and to then WAIT UPON the Lord for an answer. I also understood that with God there is no contradictions, just bad interpretations by men, so I decided to never just accept contradictions any more and move on saying, well, it seems wrongheaded or contradictory to the facts, but everyone says this is what it means, so why sweat it, I will just accept it and move on. I quit doing that, and God started answering those seeming contradictions, Boom, BOOM, BOOM, very quickly. Some examples:
Dan. 7:11 says the Beasts body is destroyed, he's killed, then cast into hellfire, but Rev. 19:20 says the F.P. and Beast are cast alive straight into hell. Now I can't move on until I get an answer, that is my new M.O., and orders from the Lord. So, Dan. 7:11 is pretty definitive, could John have been mistaken or did it mean something different. Well, 1 Cor. 15 says we sleep/rest until the Rapture when the Dead are raised and Dan. 12:1-2 says the same thing about the Israeli dead. We were created in God's image meaning we are immortal beings, so in truth, we never die, we only rest until judgment, well, the F.P. and Beast will not be given that luxury sleep that even the wicked get, who all sleep until the Second Resurrection of Death, they were cast straight into hell,
ALIVE meaning they never got to rest in the grave !! Nothing else fits, and God can not lie.
I finally got who the Rev. 7:9-17 Saints are by deduction also. I understood who they can not be first, even though like many others. I was deceived for years into thinking that they could only come out of the Great Tribulation, when the Scriptures kind of contradicted that, so I had ACCEPTED that contradiction as fact and just said, oh well, that is the way it goes. Here is why it never fit for for me, Jesus in the 5th Seal (the seals are Prophesies by Jesus of what will soon come, not real events) shows what the martyrs hearts will be thinking after they are killed, he gives them white robes and tells them they MUST WAIT for a little season, until all of their brothers have been killed in like manner as they have, then and only then can they get their vengeance on those people
who are ON EARTH, who killed them. 1.) They have to wait until the Anti-Christs 42 month reign is up before they get their vengeance and 2.) They get vengeance on people who are ALIVE ON EARTH, not on people long ago dead. So, that never fit the Rev. 7:9-17 Saints, the Martyrs at the 5th seal are told to WAIT, they are not resurrected before Jesus Second Coming !!
Now, Rev. 20:4 CONFIRMS this, we see that these people are only RAISED & JUDGED after the Second Coming, and only these Gentile Martyrs serve on earth with Jesus for his 1000 year reign, so these people CAN NOT be those that were seen resurrected in Rev. 7:9-17. So, then, how and why were they said to come out of Great Tribulation? Well, before I just accepted things, starting about 7 years ago I was like Lord, this is contradictory, and you are not a liar, so where did we miss the boat here Lord ? And, over a few week the Lord gave me the answer, in John 16:33 Jesus tells us in this world we will always have tribulation. The Romans killed 100's of 1000's of our brothers from the first century to the fourth century, Muslims have killed millions over 1400 years, Missionaries have died all over the world, our blood, according to Rev. 12:11 is what gave the Church the power to overcome Satan, we preached the Gospel even when death was threatened...11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and
they loved not their lives unto the death.
So, those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 CAN NOT have come from the 70th weeks Greatest Ever Troubles, it is not possible according to the scriptures, but us (mankind who is fallible), pigeonholing God's vocabulary is very, very possible. We have MANDATED that these can only come from the 70th week Great Tribulation as we call it, even though Jesus called it the Greatest Ever Troubles, not the Great Troubles !!
QUESTION? Can we have Great Troubles with out them being the Greatest Ever Troubles? YES INDEED !! Those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 are the Pre Trib Raptured Church who indeed came out of Great Tribulation, where millions of our brother have died for the Gospel's sake and for Jesus' name !! But those who die during the 70th week are different, they had to WAIT a little season (1260 days or 3.5 years) and we see when they are raised, in Rev. 20:4 AFTER Jesus returns with the Church in Rev. 19 !!
I can go on and on, but this is how God wants us to open up His deep truths, if we do not seek the full truth, we get Satan's half truths. But those who do not understand the timing of the Rapture can not accept this, it proves the Pre Trib Rapture in another way. Psstt, Rev. 12:17 is the Remnant Gentile Church, it CAN NOT be Jews, go look at it, it can only be the Remnant Gentile Church, again proving the Pre Trib Rapture.