A false christ and multiple warnings that he can perform miracles to deceive means a likely fake rapture for those who want one at the wrong time. It's better and safer to just reject any rapture so you don't get tricked into the wrong one.
WAKE UP!!! Church pastors we are living in the days of the very near rapture!
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A false christ and multiple warnings that he can perform miracles to deceive means a likely fake rapture for those who want one at the wrong time. It's better and safer to just reject any rapture so you don't get tricked into the wrong one.
Ronald Nolette
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I DO NOT REJECT ANY BIBLE TRUTH JUST BECAUSE THE ENEMY MAY WANT TO USE IT FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES. I know of preachers who teach you can lose your salvation because they fear that if the people knew the truth, it would give them a license to sin!
I would love to see what a fake rapture looks like. Satan has no authority to whisk millions of believers off the earth.
And your proof is what? Scripture says he has permission to kill the saints! You don't think he could perform a rapture of the deceived?
Gottservant
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David in NJ
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David in NJ
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Correct
"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death."
Rev 12:11
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”
Rev ch14
David in NJ
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The Lord Jesus Christ already told us what a fake rapture looks like.
i am shocked you did not know this....
The Light
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This is NOT the Church. The Church is already in heaven before the seals are opened. See Rev 5. Those that keep the commandments of God and faith of Jesus are the seed of the woman, Israel, which is the 12 tribes across the earth. The 144,000 are proof of this.
The 144,000 are first fruits of the second harvest. The fig tree has two harvests.
David in NJ
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The Light
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The Lord Jesus said no such thing. However, He did tell us about the foolish virgins that have no oil in their lamps and therefore cannot see when the bridegroom is coming.
David in NJ
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The Lord Jesus Christ, in fact, did tell us.
i am not shocked that you do not even know this............and......What qualifies a person to become a 'saint' ?
The Light
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That does not change because one is a Jew and one is Gentile. The change happens when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the pretribulation rapture and part of Israel has it's eyes opened and can see that Jesus is the Messiah.
Romans 11
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
David in NJ
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Part of natural Israel, according to the flesh, already has it's eyes opened to Yeshua HaMoshiach.
Have you never read this:
Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”
29And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
According to Truth, when does the LORD remove the blindness from earthbound Israel............
It clearly is the church. It is the church that is persecuted in the GT. Christ told us about this.
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The elect facing the deceptions in the GT and overcoming them, helped by the GT being made shorter than originally intended. This is partially seen in the two witnesses which are two men and two churches, all part of the overall one true Church of Christ.
The Light
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*yawn*
Romans 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
You seem to want to ignore the 144,000 first fruits. That means a harvest is coming for natural Israel. According to the WORD.
The Light
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Sorry, but that is the Lord talking to Israel.
Matthew 10
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
David in NJ
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According to the Truth when does Romans 11:26-27 take place?
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What qualifies a person to become a 'saint'?
The Light
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Roman 11
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
David in NJ
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Mathew ch24 overrides your limited understanding of Matthew ch10.
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Acts overrides your limited understanding of Matthew ch10
And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria,
and to the end of the earth.”
Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles. 13And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, “Men and brethren, listen to me: 14Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:
16‘After this I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;
I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will set it up;
17So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name,
Says the Lord who does all these things.’
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David in NJ
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According to the Truth, when does the fullness of the Gentiles come in and all earthbound Israel is saved?
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