No brother. It's all over when the 7th trumpet sounds.
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord
Why are you not able to understand that Jesus has returned and set up His kingdom on earth. Do you not see that it is the time of judgement?
You have bad logic. It's all over at the 7th trumpet.
The 7th trumpet happens during the 7th seal, as do all the trumpets. How can you possibly miss this?
So. That does not change the fact that the 7th seal is opened and then the 7 trumpets are given to the angels.
Come on. The 7th seal is opened and then the trumpets begin after 30 minutes of silence.
I know. The seal is opened and then the trumpets begin. What is the confusion?
There is nothing in Revelation 5 that says this is the Lambs book of Life. This is something that you have decided without scriptural support
The seals are the final week. They are not open. They will not be open until the fullness of the Gentiles come in. After the Church is raptured part of Israel will have it's eyes opened as God keeps His promise to His people.
Bingo. Revelation 13 happens DURING the seals. Revelation 13 does not happen in the trumpets of wrath or in the vials of wrath.
IT'S ALL OVER AT THE 7TH TRUMPET. Jesus has returned and set up His kingdom. It is the time of judgement.
Great. All these things happen in the 7th seal. What's the confusion?
It's OVER at the 7th trumpet.
Your sense of timing is about as ridiculous as saying the 2 world wars happened during the Civil War.
The Seals are events that happen before the 30 minutes. The Trumpets are events that happen after the 30 minutes. There is a named time period between the two, just like there is a time period between the Civil War of the 1800's and the World Wars in the 1900's.
Revelation 11:14-15
"The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. And the seventh angel sounded."
The second woe is at the same time as the 6th Trumpet event.
The third woe is the same time as 7th Trumpet event.
The woes are not the events. The woes are special parts of the event, distinct from the event.
The 7th Trumpet is the celebration at the end of the final harvest.
The third woe is Satan's 42 months that interrupt the week of celebration.
The 7th Trumpet starts sounding on a Sunday and by Wednesday, Satan is given 42 months which extends the sound of the 7th Trumpet by 42 months and 3.5 days.
And none of the Trumpets are heard during the 7 Seals. Revelation 13 does not happen during the glorification of the church. Revelation 13 does not happen in the midst of the rapture of those remaining on earth. Revelation 13 does not happen during the time the 144k are sealed. Revelation 13 does not happen during the first 2 woes. Revelation 13 does not happen during the Thunders nor the events of chapter 10 and 11 when John is describing what will soon happen in the 7th Trumpet.
Revelation 13 is the third woe. It cannot happen before the 7th Seal is opened, because it cannot happen before the other 2 woes and everything else prior to the celebration itself.
Revelation 13 is not the final harvest. The 7th Trumpet is not even the final harvest. It is the last week of celebration after the final harvest is over.
Revelation 13 has nothing to do with the Second Coming nor any event leading up to the 7th Trumpet.
After the sheep and goats are separated, and after the wheat and tares are gathered, the third woe only happens if there is any left to harvest called the gleanings.
"And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest."
"And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God."
"And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God."
"When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow."
"And she went, and came, and gleaned in the field after the reapers: and her hap was to light on a part of the field belonging unto Boaz, who was of the kindred of Elimelech."
Every harvest according to God's Word allows for gleanings, and God's final harvest is no different than what God commands.
The gleanings are those beheaded during Satan's 42 months. Only two types of people other than the 2 witnesses. Those with a mark declaring they have been blotted out of the Lamb's book of life. Those who have no head in declaration of remaining in the Lamb's book of life.
Everything in Revelation 5 is about the Lamb's book of life. Why do you think the Lamb is the only one who can open the Lamb's book of life? Is there more than one Lamb's book of life with those sealed within, double sealed, and within 7 Seals? What other book is about the Atonement of the Cross and that the redeemed are sealed and named within? Moses knew about this book that has always existed prior to creation.
"And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them."
It is clear that all have been named in the Atonement Covenant as covered by the blood of the Lamb. The only option is to be blotted out. No names are written down after the 7 seals are opened. Only at that point will names be removed. God says that all who sin against God will be removed.
God says in the day He visits, He will visit the sin of all humanity. God was not just talking about a few Israelites in the desert after coming out of Egypt. He was talking about every soul to have ever been conceived. That day is the opening of the 6th Seal.
Even those alive on the earth will see the face of the one sitting on the throne. The one no one has ever looked upon and lived.
"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal....hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne."
The harvest is just getting started at the first Trumpet. Revelation 13 and the gleanings cannot happen until after the 7th Trumpet, and the time of the gleanings commence after the reapers, the angels are finished.
"The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world."
Satan is sowing the tares while the Trumpets are sounding. The angels are reaping during the 7 Thunders. But still in the midst of the 7th Trumpet sounding there is still that third woe, the time of the gleanings.
Daniel 9:27 is the time of the gleanings. Matthew 24:15 is the time of the gleanings. But the gleanings cannot happen before the sowing and reaping. You are putting the gleanings even prior to the Second Coming when Jesus comes to earth as the Sower, per Matthew 13. You are putting the gleanings before the sheep and the goats are separated.
You have the gleanings before the Lamb's book of life is even opened.
"And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."
(The same Him who will blot out those written in the very same book.)
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals,"
You don't think Moses saw that book that has always been in His hands while Moses was talking face to face with God? How did Moses know one could be blotted out of the book? Now at the very end of sin itself we see that same book and only Jesus could remove the Seals. And when those seals started to be opened major changes started to happen on the earth. The gleanings are the very last of those changes.
Revelation is the first time since Moses pointed out one could be blotted out that we see people no longer named in the Lamb's book of life. Not that they had never been there. But the opening of the Seals is that day when God will start to blot names out, but not until the book is opened to do so.
The goats are the first to go. The tares burnt up in the Thunders the next to go. But the rest of the dead have to wait until after the 1,000 years are over. That is when they stand as dead and judged out of the books opened, and removed from the opened Lamb's book of life. But the gleanings, those beheaded, are the only ones physically alive, still on the earth, who get to remain in the Lamb's book of life. Of course once their head is removed which Seals the deal, they are no longer alive on the earth, but dead. They are not resurrected until after the battle of Armageddon. They then stand in judgment and are granted eternal life, the first 1,000 years on this earth reigning with Christ. They are blessed, and do not stand at the GWT nor suffer the second death, the LOF.
