Florida : says "NO" to Transgender Drugs & Surgery for TEENS.

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Good read on how TRANS is rebellion against God and like the original sin in the garden where man decides to be his own god, and disobey what God said.

The serpent said this,

Genesis 3
1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
 

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They were advocating for 'gender affirming care'. Is this something you also agree with? That transgenderism is something schools and society need to support and also pay for sex surgeries and sex hormones for what are legally children. Minors, as in children should not have the right to make such a decision. And neither should any parent, decide for the child. We are talking about immature minds, they are not adults. You think children should be allowed to legally be adults do you? No limits, hey they are just adult minds in small bodies right? Well legally they are not.
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Nashville Shooter Hale had a manifesto that police refuse so far to release.

The Michigan pro-transgender protesters held signs that advocated for “direct action” and endorsed a left-wing philosophy and mantra known as “by any means necessary” in order to push “gender affirming care” which is another way of saying the mutilation of children to change their biological gender from one to another.
Nothing advocates their "gender mutilation agenda" like acts of terrorism!
 

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The key point about the discussion is you agree with gender affirming care since you agree with the transgender community's views on being transgendered, so then support transgenderism. Am I wrong? See I do not, transgender is a sexual perversion and a demonic teaching. The people who claim they are trans are not spiritually right in their heads. The same thing with all other kinds of sexual immorality, if you are truly a born again Christian, you will comprehend that it is sexual immorality. I won't affirm any of that as it is clearly contradicted in the scriptures.

just further evidence the country is on the broad path to destruction and hell fire, become an enemy of God.
I think the key point is the blatant lies some news organizations are telling about what actually happened. Do you think lying is morally acceptable?
 
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You still do not get it, do you ? ? ?

Proverbs 16:18-19 (ESV)
18 Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
19 It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.

Matthew 5:3-4 (HCSB)
3 “The poor in spirit are blessed, for the kingdom of heaven is theirs.
4 Those who mourn are blessed, for they will be comforted.
What don't I get?

Your verses have no relevance to the discussion.
 

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Nice Try, but it failed.

2 Peter 1:20-21 (HCSB)
20 First of all, you should know this: No prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation,
21 because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, men spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

2 Timothy 3:16 (ESV)
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

My Bible is breathed out by GOD, and HE IS HOLY ENOUGH TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
It's too bad you don't understand what God breathed out.
 

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It's too bad you don't understand what God breathed out.

You keep trying to get me to argue with you, but I will never do that. Why ? ? ?

James 4:11-12 (HCSB)
11 Don’t criticize one another, brothers. He who criticizes a brother or judges his brother criticizes the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.
12 There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I have told several People "to believe what they want to believe; as for me I will believe that the Bibles Says."

I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me. YES, I believe 100% in the HOLY TRINITY, and a Pre-Trib Rapture. I will go to my Grave IF the Rapture does not happen first, believing as these things, my Faith does not Waver.

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You keep trying to get me to argue with you, but I will never do that. Why ? ? ?

James 4:11-12 (HCSB)
11 Don’t criticize one another, brothers. He who criticizes a brother or judges his brother criticizes the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.
12 There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I have to several People to believe what they want to believe; as for me I will believe that the Bibles Says.

I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me. YES, I believe 100% in the HOLY TRINITY, and a Pre-Trib Rapture. I will go to my Grave IF the Rapture does not happen first, believing as these things, my Faith does not Waver.

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Paul criticized his brothers from time to time.

Some on forums are trolls and posers. Criticism of that is just.

They know not scripture so speaking their language let's them know the wolf pelt is visible through the lanolin costume.
 

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You keep trying to get me to argue with you, but I will never do that. Why ? ? ?

James 4:11-12 (HCSB)
11 Don’t criticize one another, brothers. He who criticizes a brother or judges his brother criticizes the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.
12 There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I have to several People to believe what they want to believe; as for me I will believe that the Bibles Says.

I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me. YES, I believe 100% in the HOLY TRINITY, and a Pre-Trib Rapture. I will go to my Grave IF the Rapture does not happen first, believing as these things, my Faith does not Waver.

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Are you okay??? Sometimes I worry about you.

If you read the New Testament, there is a lot of disagreement among the apostles (including Paul). There is nothing wrong with discussing different points of view. Additionally, the passage you cite discusses disagreements about the law.

Your claim that "as for me I will believe that the Bibles Says. I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me." is pompous and prideful.

I can mke the same claim: I believe what the Bible says and can also say that I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me. So, which one of us is right?

BTW, I would never make that absurd claim, as it is the epitome of pride and self-deception. I hate to break this to you but you are not infallible!
 

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Are you okay??? Sometimes I worry about you.

If you read the New Testament, there is a lot of disagreement among the apostles (including Paul). There is nothing wrong with discussing different points of view. Additionally, the passage you cite discusses disagreements about the law.

Your claim that "as for me I will believe that the Bibles Says. I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me." is pompous and prideful.

I can mke the same claim: I believe what the Bible says and can also say that I am 100% Sure the HOLY SPIRIT, has given me the TRUTH, and Christ In me. So, which one of us is right?

BTW, I would never make that absurd claim, as it is the epitome of pride and self-deception. I hate to break this to you but you are not infallible!


How do you DEFINE BORN AGAIN? ? ?

I know HE, the Holy Spirit, has immersed me into the Spiritual Body of Jesus Christ. I KNOW Jesus Christ is in me, and I am in HIM. No Pride, No Brag, No Pompous, just the simple facts, and I know I DO NOT DESERVE IT. I know the difference between my Thoughts, and HIS THOUGHTS. I experienced the battle between my mind, and the mind of my Heart, that CHRIST CONTROLS. It was a war at first for my two minds, who would control Me. But as I got into the word, It strengthened the Spiritual Me. It started to become easier and easier as I matured Spiritually, for the mind of my HEART to dominate.

You sounds to me, that you have never been BORN AGAIN ? ? ?

You will have mourn and weep over your utter Sinfulness. NOT A FAKE Experience from your flesh, your heart has to seriously MOURN; and it is not a WORK, it is the HOLY SPIRIT as HE comes into your heart. Ask Him to come into your heart to rule, and you need to make up your mind to surrender willing TO HIM. Not even 85% and 15% for self will do, HE WANTS ALL OF YOU, to craw into that Big Collections Plate. Give all of yourself to HIM, never wanting to take it back. Then you will understand me.
 
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Paul criticized his brothers from time to time.

Some on forums are trolls and posers. Criticism of that is just.

They know not scripture so speaking their language let's them know the wolf pelt is visible through the lanolin costume.

The English language is a Weak Language to translate the Bible into it.

James 4:11 (NASB)
11 Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

James 4:11 (ESV)
11 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.

James 4:11 (NJB)
11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who slanders a brother, or condemns one, is speaking against the Law and condemning the Law. But if you condemn the Law, you have ceased to be subject to it and become a judge over it.

It carries with it, all of those meaning, so it is helpful to have several difference bibles open.
 
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The English language is a Weak Language to translate the Bible into it.

James 4:11 (NASB)
11 Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

James 4:11 (ESV)
11 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.

James 4:11 (NJB)
11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who slanders a brother, or condemns one, is speaking against the Law and condemning the Law. But if you condemn the Law, you have ceased to be subject to it and become a judge over it.

It carries with it, all of those meaning, so it is helpful to have several difference bibles open.
Speaking truth is not slander or evil. In any language.
 

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Speaking truth is not slander or evil. In any language.

Ask long as you ABSOLUTELY KNOW THE TRUTH, otherwise you had better keep your trap shut.

On this sight: I have been misquoted, accused of an untruth, mistaken for someone else, believing what is NOT TRUE, jumped to a false conclusion, made an error about what I said or my motive, etc., etc.

When in doubt, you had better keep your mouth shut, or you are sinning. Suspicions are not KNOWLEDGE.

In the GREEK, their language is way more specific than in English.

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Greek NASB Number: 2635

Greek Word:
καταλαλέω

Transliterated Word: katalaleô
Root:
from 2637;

Definition: to speak evil of:--

List of English Words and Number of Times Used
slander (1),
slandered (1),
speak against (1),
speaks against (2).
New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.
end quote:

See how it is more specific than ENGLISH.


James 4:11 (NASB)

11 Do not speak <G2635> against <G2635> one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

See how we had to use two words for katalaleô inorder to get it close to the true meaning.
 
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2 Timothy 3:16 (ESV)
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

So every translation in every Bible ever made is 100% accurate?
 

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2 Timothy 3:16 (ESV)
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

Were the men that wrote these translations divinely led to do so and, if so, why the discrepancy and which verse is correct, if any?

Mathew 25:46 ESV
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Mathew 25:46 YLT
And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during
 

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Ask long as you ABSOLUTELY KNOW THE TRUTH, otherwise you had better keep your trap shut.

On this sight: I have been misquoted, accused of an untruth, mistaken for someone else, believing what is NOT TRUE, jumped to a false conclusion, made an error about what I said or my motive, etc., etc.

When in doubt, you had better keep your mouth shut, or you are sinning. Suspicions are not KNOWLEDGE.

In the GREEK, their language is way more specific than in English.

quote:
Greek NASB Number: 2635

Greek Word:
καταλαλέω

Transliterated Word: katalaleô
Root:
from 2637;

Definition: to speak evil of:--

List of English Words and Number of Times Used
slander (1),
slandered (1),
speak against (1),
speaks against (2).
New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.
end quote:

See how it is more specific than ENGLISH.


James 4:11 (NASB)

11 Do not speak <G2635> against <G2635> one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

See how we had to use two words for katalaleô inorder to get it close to the true meaning.
You're very angry.

That's a lot of, keep your trap shut, advice your anger vents doing just the opposite.
 

Patrick1966

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Paul criticized his brothers from time to time.

Some on forums are trolls and posers. Criticism of that is just.

They know not scripture so speaking their language let's them know the wolf pelt is visible through the lanolin costume.

In what manner does Jesus torture Christians whose understanding was slightly off?