As i was telling you a few days ago.
Its a Liar who accuses me, who does not quote me.
You are that liar. And you'll do it again, as that is what liars do.
See you there, 1stCenturyLady.
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As i was telling you a few days ago.
Its a Liar who accuses me, who does not quote me.
You are that liar. And you'll do it again, as that is what liars do.
See you there, 1stCenturyLady.
Jim B
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BTW, if nothing you teach are of your own thoughts, then whose thoughts are they? And can you post your teaching certificate that is "straight from God"?
Seriously, it is a real danger to think of yourself as infallible.
1stCenturyLady
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I have quoted you. So practice what you preach.
I don't lie, but you just did.
I see my questions to you are above your understanding, so I'll sign off.
Once you quote me every time, then you will be found to be honest.
Not until.
As i said.
1stCenturyLady
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Oh come on...
You obviously do not know me. I don't lie. And I'm only trying to help you. And here you are bearing false witness at me in every response.
false accusation #20.
Listen, I have personally told you on this Thread, at least 4 times, that you are being dishonest to accuse me and not post, quotes.
Now, you are posting them, and making false accusations.
You should find something honest to do with your time here.
Also, stop pretending that you are a teacher., as its annoying to the members.
However, if you feel that you can write a Thread, then give it a try.
Help yourself.
Michiah-Imla
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1stCenturyLady
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If i point out what you have to stop doing, that is not an attack.
So, you can move along now.
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mailmandan
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Notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9) is in contrast to - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:10)
Some people misunderstand verse 9 to mean that we "must confess each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast!" Who can write an exhaustive list of every sin they have ever committed? Sin is not only missing the mark by what we do but also what we fail to do. (James 4:17)
Believers "confess" (homologeó Strong's #3670) speak the same/acknowledge/agree with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and ongoing acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness in contrast with saying that we have no sin or have not sinned (present and/or past tense). (1 John 1:8-10)
That's not God's perspective.
That's a false perspective.
God does not see the born again as a sinner, He sees them only and always as :
Heir of God
Joint heir with Jesus
Born again
IN Christ
One with God
Made Rightoues
Temple of the Holy Spirit
Saint.
IN Christ
So, its a secular, unbeliever's "perspective" to see the Born again, who are "seated in heavenly places in Christ", as a sinner needing to tell God about it.
"Strong" has no idea about God's perspective, as if He did, He would share God's and not his carnal misunderstanding.
Believe PAUL.......not mr "strong".
mailmandan
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I think you misunderstood. I know who believers are in Christ and how God see's us after becoming born again. I'm talking about God's perspective about our sins in contrast with saying that we have no sin or have not sinned (present and/or past tense). (1 John 1:8-10) We have a settled recognition that we are sinners in need of a Savior (Romans 3:23) when we receive Christ. (Romans 6:23) The opposite of settled recognition and ongoing acknowledgment about sin would be someone who claims sinless perfection.
God only sees your sin on Christ, judged, forgiven, forgotten.
"as far as the east is from the west".
As if you've never sinned, which is the "New Creation in Christ'.
The old man of sin is Dead, and God does not see it.
When He sees you, He sees "born again" "Son of God", "made righteous"...>"the righteousness of God in Christ".
mailmandan
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I understand that and have made further clarifications in regards to my main point in post #93.
Strong says that "believers confess".
So, confess what?
Believers are "made righteous". And God has made Jesus to be sin for us"..
Our Sin is gone.. because "Jesus is the one time ETERNAL sacrifice for our sin".
We dont confess what Jesus has died to remove, for ETERNITY.
Strong does not understand this.
Not many do.
One of the worst theologies that is anti-Cross , is this one.
"God started our salvation, Jesus paid for our sin up until the day we are saved, and then after that, we confess to keep ourselves saved, to keep getting God to forgive us"
I suspect that Mr Strong, has that issue in his Theology.
mailmandan
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1 John 1:9 does not mean that believers "must confess each and every sin that they commit as they commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if they forget a sin they are toast!" I don't hear Strong teaching that either.
Read your post.
You wrote..... Strong said..>"Believer's Confess".
Confess what?
The only thing a BELIEVER needs to confess is "THANK YOU JESUS, Im "the righteousness of Christ" as a "new Creation".
mailmandan
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Again, believers are not confessing an inventory of sins in order to remain cleansed, yet upon becoming believers, we confess that we are sinners in need of a Savior and we do not say that we have no sin (present tense - 1 John 1:8) or that we have not sinned. (past tense - 1 John 1:10) This acknowledgment is ongoing.
Because Jesus has become "sin" for the believer, and died, so did their sin, and their "old man of sin".
Believers who are confessing sin, and so called "bible translators" who dont understand, teach to "sin and confess".
If you read 1 John 3:9, you'll note that it says that there is no sin found with the born again.
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