Born again = Righteous

[Johann]

I am a doer of the word.
You'd be surprised to know how much "word" i do.

But what i dont do, is teach that doing is what God accepts to save you, or keep you saved.

See, im not that Heretic.
Im the Person that teaches Paul's Gospel of Grace.

God saved us....= "when we are yet a sinner"...... and He keeps us saved the same way He saved us.

= The Cross of Christ.

I'm not saying you are a heretic-

 

[Johann]

"present your body a living sacrifice".....every day.

But, here is the thing...

We work because we ARE saved.... not to try to be saved or to stay saved.

God accepts no person's self effort to save them, or to keep them.

Exactly.

 

[Johann]

If you can earn you Salvation or work your way into heaven, the Jesus wasted His time on the Cross dying for you, didnt He?
Do you think He did?

Or is it that you are not understanding Salvation?

I think by now you should know me-this is NOT what I,, saying or advocating.

 

[Johann]

I have listened to some of it, I understand what’s he’s saying so far about the flesh, the renewing of our minds..very good and well explained so far..

I will listen to the rest, then get back to you, thanks for posting Johann, I do hope others are encouraged to listen to it as well....I’m taking a break, as I’m pretty tired at the moment..God Bless You Brother and thank you again for posting that vid.

Sister, I am sorry for coming on too strong-and thank you for listening to the video clip, that is sound, biblical preaching, right there.

 

[Ritajanice]

Sister, I am sorry for coming on too strong-and thank you for listening to the video clip, that is sound, biblical preaching, right there.

No need to apologise Brother, I did the same....we are all Brothers and Sisters in Christ...and yes, good sound teaching...

 

[Behold]

I'm not saying you are a heretic-

No worries.

"Heretics" on forums, are generally related to the usual "known" cults.

The "solo" ministers of the Devil, are also easy to spot.

Just ask them if they can lose their salvation.....

If they say "yes",..... then they will try to prove it, and that identifies them as a Heretic.
Most of them run directly to Hebrews 10:26, as that verse, always misunderstood, always breeds Heretics like an open sewer breeds rats.

This person tho.... can be a Real Christian, and Paul defines them as being "Bewitched", "fallen from Grace" and "in the Flesh".

See, A Believer is led into heresy, by a heretic.
And this is why i spend so much time on fourms, trying to teach the Pauline Doctrine fundamentals of the Faith, so that real believers can protect themselves from Heretics, as a "christian fourm" is like a magnet to a Heretic.......Its like honey to a Bear.
They breed each other, on "christian" forums.

I'll give you an example, of a Heretic.... for the Readers....here.

When you went to Jesus, you went there as a lost, hell bound, sinner, needing to be SAVED.
You had nothing to give God but your dirty rotten sins, for Him to Forgive, through the Blood of Jesus.
And He DID....
God took your faith in Christ and Gave you "the Gift of Salvation"., and you were born again....instantly.

Now notice.......did you bring any good deed, any commandment keeping, and trying to be good, to God, or did you bring your lifetime of SIN , in Repentance?

But Yet, this same...... a few year later, is now a heretic, and wants to teach......>"Here now is what you have to Do YOURSELF, to go to heaven"....

And what is so pathetic and sad about this, is that this same LEGALIST, KNEW ..... a while back that they came to God .... DIRTY... SINFUL
They didn't DO anything but that........yet here they are, a few years later, faith destroyed by a Heretic, selling WORKS and SELF EFFORT as "Salvation".
"How to keep yourself saved".

= do
do
do
do
do
= and do some more.

Here they are, as you will find them,... all proud, and talking about all their SELF RIGHTEOUS DOING so that GOD will have them and keep them...

They kinda FORGOT what God did for them....and who they were back THEN.

See it?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

If you can earn you Salvation or work your way into heaven, the Jesus wasted His time on the Cross dying for you, didnt He?

You cannot earn salvation.

But afterwards:

“Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:22)

You can spin the truth all you want.

But the truth stands forever!

 

[Johann]

No worries.

"Heretics" on forums, are generally related to the usual "known" cults.

The "solo" ministers of the Devil, are also easy to spot.

Just ask them if they can lose their salvation.....

If they say "yes",..... then they will try to prove it, and that identifies them as a Heretic.
Most of them run directly to Hebrews 10:26, as that verse, always misunderstood, always breeds Heretics like an open sewer breeds rats.

This person tho.... can be a Real Christian, and Paul defines them as being "Bewitched", "fallen from Grace" and "in the Flesh".

See, A Believer is led into heresy, by a heretic.
And this is why i spend so much time on fourms, trying to teach the Pauline Doctrine fundamentals of the Faith, so that real believers can protect themselves from Heretics, as a "christian fourm" is like a magnet to a Heretic.......Its like honey to a Bear.
They breed each other, on "christian" forums.

I'll give you an example, of a Heretic.... for the Readers....here.

When you went to Jesus, you went there as a lost, hell bound, sinner, needing to be SAVED.
You had nothing to give God but your dirty rotten sins, for Him to Forgive, through the Blood of Jesus.
And He DID....
God took your faith in Christ and Gave you "the Gift of Salvation"., and you were born again....instantly.

Now notice.......did you bring any good deed, any commandment keeping, and trying to be good, to God, or did you bring your lifetime of SIN , in Repentance?

But Yet, this same...... a few year later, is now a heretic, and wants to teach......>"Here now is what you have to Do YOURSELF, to go to heaven"....

And what is so pathetic and sad about this, is that this same LEGALIST, KNEW ..... a while back that they came to God .... DIRTY... SINFUL
They didn't DO anything but that........yet here they are, a few years later, faith destroyed by a Heretic, selling WORKS and SELF EFFORT as "Salvation".
"How to keep yourself saved".

= do
do
do
do
do
= and do some more.

Here they are, as you will find them,... all proud, and talking about all their SELF RIGHTEOUS DOING so that GOD will have them and keep them...

They kinda FORGOT what God did for them....and who they were back THEN.

See it?

I see it-like you I am making my appeal to the Scriptures, AFTER our rebirth there is work to be done IN THE SPHERE of the Holy Spirit brother-we are created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, read James, the 7 Churches in Revelation, Matthew 25.

This is not resting on our laurels, even our Lord Jesus was a good example to work, doing the will of His Father.

Can you see it?

Diametrically opposed doing self-righteous deeds to earn brownie points into heaven.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Amazingly, many don't quote James and these portions-and James is not contradicting Paul either brother.

All good between us?

 

[Ritajanice]

I see it-like you I am making my appeal to the Scriptures, AFTER our rebirth there is work to be done IN THE SPHERE of the Holy Spirit brother-we are created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, read James, the 7 Churches in Revelation, Matthew 25.

Amen!

This is not resting on our laurels, even our Lord Jesus was a good example to work, doing the will of His Father.

Ah now I see why we bumped head..I meant resting in faith...of course we work, faith without works is dead.

 

[amigo de christo]

I see it-like you I am making my appeal to the Scriptures, AFTER our rebirth there is work to be done IN THE SPHERE of the Holy Spirit brother-we are created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, read James, the 7 Churches in Revelation, Matthew 25.

This is not resting on our laurels, even our Lord Jesus was a good example to work, doing the will of His Father.

Can you see it?

Diametrically opposed doing self-righteous deeds to earn brownie points into heaven.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Amazingly, many don't quote James and these portions-and James is not contradicting Paul either brother.

All good between us?

So now its time for another reminder that paul often warned the churches about .
BE NOT deceived , neither fornicators , homosexuals , liars , etc shall inherit the kingdom of GOD .
IS that hate TO REMIND the church that we ought not to even once do such things .
NOPE . truth is if churches are teaching or allowing such pratices to continue within their doors , THEY the ones in error .
WE are supposed to correct all sin within the church . We are supposed to warn out against all sin within the church .
YET , when i do it , most say i dont love , am judgemntal , self righteous and a hater . NOW why is that .
I know the answer to the question i asked . My question to all is simply this .
HOW come your teachers , your church leaders no longer warn against praticing that which is evil .
How come they remain mute on it . How come they allow it to continue in the churches .
AND if we think my warnings are harsh . How about we read the warnings from paul .
WHY is it some sins get overlooked in churches . WHY is it churches are not even reading about such things the apostels once
WROTE to the churches . Yet jimmy and others see me as hateful for reminding about such things .

 

[Johann]

So now its time for another reminder that paul often warned the churches about .
BE NOT deceived , neither fornicators , homosexuals , liars , etc shall inherit the kingdom of GOD .
IS that hate TO REMIND the church that we ought not to even once do such things .
NOPE . truth is if churches are teaching or allowing such pratices to continue within their doors , THEY the ones in error .
WE are supposed to correct all sin within the church . We are supposed to warn out against all sin within the church .
YET , when i do it , most say i dont love , am judgemntal , self righteous and a hater . NOW why is that .
I know the answer to the question i asked . My question to all is simply this .
HOW come your teachers , your church leaders no longer warn against praticing that which is evil .
How come they remain mute on it . How come they allow it to continue in the churches .
AND if we think my warnings are harsh . How about we read the warnings from paul .
WHY is it some sins get overlooked in churches . WHY is it churches are not even reading about such things the apostels once
WROTE to the churches . Yet jimmy and others see me as hateful for reminding about such things .

Keep on doing what you are feel led to brother-we are in the end times.

 

[MatthewG]

Because a perfect church doesnt exist anymore.


It would require you to go back in time.


While teaching the bible
You will come across the ways of the flesh



All you can do is share and suggest this is whats happening in that time to keep the church pure, and spotless.


Im glad that age had ended and allows now all people to come to Christ and learn from Him and to love God and love others.


Despite their lifestyle, or own choices.

 

[amigo de christo]

Keep on doing what you are feel led to brother-we are in the end times.

Not only must i do so , out of love i must only increase to do so . My desire is GOOD for all peoples .
And time is running out and all i desire is GOOD for the peoples . Though the more abundantely i love
the less i be loved . Be that as it may , no matter the cost to me the exhortations must continue .

 

[amigo de christo]

Because a perfect church doesnt exist anymore.


It would require you to go back in time.


While teaching the bible
You will come across the ways of the flesh



All you can do is share and suggest this is whats happening in that time to keep the church pure, and spotless.


Im glad that age had ended and allows now all people to come to Christ and learn from Him and to love God and love others.


Despite their lifestyle, or own choices.

That age HAS NOT ENDED . you NEED to go and take that wicked song off that other post too .
STROKING . I tried to correct you for sending it but you would not heed the correction .
Your a part of the age that allows man to do what FEELS GOOD , not what is GOOD . now go and learn the difference .

 

[MatthewG]

That age HAS NOT ENDED . you NEED to go and take that wicked song off that other post too .
STROKING . I tried to correct you for sending it but you would not heed the correction .
Your a part of the age that allows man to do what FEELS GOOD , not what is GOOD . now go and learn the difference .

Thats fine you can believe what you want, and judge me off a little song. I love you either way, and you shouldnt judge me. I havent judged you in any manner.

 

[amigo de christo]

Thats fine you can believe what you want, and judge me off a little song. I love you either way, and you shouldnt judge me. I havent judged you in any manner.

Judge not . again taken out of text . I aint your judge mathew . But the song has no place in the christain life .
I told you already that i used to love that old song once . I BE STROKING to the right i be stroking to the left
BUT something amazing happened at the day of my conversion . Evil became evil to me .
The song has no place for christains anymore . Sure when i was of the world i LOVE IT . Heck i loved many wicked songs
back then and could sing them word for word too . Now they appear evil to me . You need to remove that wicked song .

 

[MatthewG]

If i thought it was good to continue to do drugs like meth; that my friend uses; i would not, tell him to stop using.

So thank yoh for the judgemental calls anyone likes to give to me,


I might as well encourage people to murder people in their minds,
Plot conspiracies,
And do people wrong.


@amigo de christo you do not know who i really am off a christian forum site.


Stop with the bullcrap.

 

[MatthewG]

Oh and should encourage not encouraging the police to get called in cases of known abuse with children, or even adults,


Cause it feels good.


And if it feels good do it.



Rolling my eyes.

 

[amigo de christo]

If i thought it was good to continue to do drugs like meth; that my friend uses; i would not, tell him to stop using.

So thank yoh for the judgemental calls anyone likes to give to me,


I might as well encourage people to murder people in their minds,
Plot conspiracies,
And do people wrong.


@amigo de christo you do not know who i really am off a christian forum site.


Stop with the bullcrap.

Never said i knew who you are . The only thing i knew was you brought a wicked song that has no part in christanity.
I didnt rebuke you for who you are but rather what YOU DID .

 

[MatthewG]

Youll have to get over it. Have you done not one single “wicked” thing this week, @amigo de christo? No getting mad at someone, not getting mad at yourself?


No sin was made in a week?


Someone wrote saying if we have no sin in us we are a liar and make God to be a liar.


… i sin. So i cant say i dont.


My heart aint screaming out to kill people or rape people or steal from people.