Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

[St. SteVen]

Christ died/resurrected/ascended in the 70th week = Everlasting Righteousness

How did you arrive at that conclusion. Show me the math. From when to when? Thanks.

 

[David in NJ]

How did you arrive at that conclusion. Show me the math. From when to when? Thanks.

Simple math: 7 + 62 = 69
What comes after 69? = 70

24“Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

25“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times.

26“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;

 

[St. SteVen]

Simple math: 7 + 62 = 69
What comes after 69? = 70

Hold the bus...
Shouldn't it be 70 x 7= 490?
Really it should be just 70 weeks.
Why do we multiply it by 7 ?
Because it doesn't work as written?

 

[St. SteVen]

26“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;

So, you add 7 to this? ??????? What? Why? ????

 

[David in NJ]

So, you add 7 to this? ??????? What? Why? ????

The Scripture adds 7 + 62


25“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; = 69
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times.

 

[covenantee]

Hold the bus...
Shouldn't it be 70 x 7= 490?
Really it should be just 70 weeks.
Why do we multiply it by 7 ?
Because it doesn't work as written?

What recognized Bible expositors past or present opine that "it should be just 70 weeks"?

 

[Christian Gedge]

Where and how can that be determined?

The 10th day of Nisan which converts to our Julian equivalent, 12th April 444 BC.
I’ll get back to you on this.

 

[Jay Ross]

And what is the significance of 494 BC?

Already answered in my post you quoted that you place this question under.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Scripture adds 7 + 62


25“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; = 69
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times.

Thank you.
I was focused on the 70 weeks, and didn't notice this.

So, is this a breakdown of the 70 weeks? (sort of)
What is the significance of the seven weeks?
Or the 62, for that matter. ???

And why not 63 to equal an even 70?
Perhaps no one knows.

Leaves an extra "week" hanging out there.
Was the abacus broken? - LOL
(or needed a fresh battery?)

 

[St. SteVen]

It may come as a surprise to you, but the ending of the 70th week is all about Gentiles. Such an idea appears contradictory at first because the angel spoke of ‘your people’ when referring to Daniel’s people, the Jews. Yes, the angel did say, “Seventy weeks are determined for your people ...” but that is the whole point. Israel is about the Gentiles! Israel was the vehicle so to speak, by which salvation would come to the world, for that is what was ultimately in God’s mind.

So when he says, “Seventy weeks are determined for Israel,” God means 490 years will pass and then the times of the Gentiles can begin. The destiny of Israel climaxes with good news to the world! Accordingly, St. Peter said to the Jews:

“Men of Israel … you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’ When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways.” (Acts 3:12, 25-26)​

In other words, he confirmed the covenant by guaranteeing first option to the children of the covenant then afterward by granting the good news to the Gentiles as he had promised all those years before.

Thanks for your thoughtful and detailed response.
What do you make of this statement by Jesus to the Canaanite woman?

Matthew 15:24 NIV
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

 

[St. SteVen]

What recognized Bible expositors past or present opine that "it should be just 70 weeks"?

Verse 24 of the passage in question.
We have to add a week extra-biblically to the 7+62=69 to equal 70.
I guess close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and Bible Prophecy. - LOL

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Christ died/resurrected/ascended in the 70th week = Everlasting Righteousness

The "Holy People" of Daniel has always been and will always be = Believers in the Word

Romans ch9
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

but this is not true,

He arrived at the end of the 69th week.

He died a literal 7 day week later.

 

[St. SteVen]

but this is not true,

He arrived at the end of the 69th week.

He died a literal 7 day week later.

The Bible says he was circumcised on the eighth day. - LOL
How could he have died one week after his arrival?
What do you mean by "arrived"?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Bible says he was circumcised on the eighth day. - LOL
How could he have died one week after his arrival?
What do you mean by "arrived"?

How did the OT prophets say that Messiah would arrive?

Look for the point of View of a jew living in Jesus day, not from our point of view today. where we know someone who was never called the messiah would come from a virgin..

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

There can only be one correct interpretation of the 70 Weeks prophecy. That means most views are wrong. When considering the interpretation that I have researched, I wanted to identify a single issue as the test to judge all other interpretations by. I think I have found it.

Everyone argues endlessly about which king made the decree to start the whole period of the 70 Weeks. Was is Cyrus? Was it Darius? Was it Artaxerxes? Was it something else people come up with? Well, Ezra gives us the major clue.

When talking about the second temple, he says: [Ezr 6:14 LSB] 14b So they built and completed [it] according to the decree of the God of Israel and the decree of Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.

Ezra states there were actually four decrees(commandments) given regarding rebuilding the temple. No one recognizes this or addresses it. That is, my interpretation does. Unless an interpretation addresses this verse and explains what's with the decree God made, it leads to a wrong understanding and the structural foundation is faulty from the start.

So no one is willing to take the Ezra 6:14 Test? Either your interpretation can't pass the test or your interpretation does not consider the Word of God as accurate. My claim is that ALL interpretations of the 70 Weeks Prophecy can not pass this test. Except for the one correct one.

Ezra 6:14 states that there were more than just 3 decrees from earthly kings that allowed for the rebuilding of the temple (and by extension, rebuilding Jerusalem). There was a fourth. In addition Ezra seems to list the earthly decrees in chronological order. That would suggest that the decree by God, which no one recognizes, happened BEFORE the one from Cyrus. Where is this decree? Why does no one recognize or address this? Can your particular system even survive taking this decree into account?

 

[Brakelite]

Prophetic time is understood by a principle, day for a year. One day in prophecy equals a literal year in real time.
KJV Numbers 14:34
34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

KJV Ezekiel 4:6
6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Now, you may think, how do we know that applies to the prophecy of Daniel? We know because it came true and was proven historically.
70 weeks=490 days=490 years.

KJV Daniel 9:25
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

There were 3 decrees which gave the Hebrews permission to return home from Babylon. The decree of Cyrus in 537bc had to do with rebuilding the temple and restoring the sacred vessels and the worship. (Ezra 1:1-4.)
The decree of Darius in 519bc was a repeat of the former one of Cyrus, because there had been opposition and interference. (Ezra 6:7-12)
The 3rd and final decree was from Artexerxes in 457bc. This not only included the temple restoration and worship, but also the city and the wall, making possible the restoration of the Jewish state and a local government. (Ezra 7:26).
These 3 decrees were referred to by Ezra in Ezra 6:14 as one... The commandment of the God of Israel. The first 7 weeks...49 days/years, was dedicated to the rebuilding of the wall. 62 weeks later...434 days/years... Brings us to 27ad... The year Jesus was baptized, and annointed by the holy Spirit as Messiah, from which time His official ministry began.
That left one week...7 years... To complete Israel's probation. The Messiah was killed in the midst of that week (Daniel 9:27) , after 3 and 1/2 years, in 31AD, and the final 3 and 1/2 years was the nations final opportunity to accept their true King and Messiah, whom they spurned, the apostles and disciples obeying Jesus when He commanded them "to go first to the list sheep of the house of Israel". 70 weeks complete...490 years...457BC to 34AD.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

These 3 decrees were referred to by Ezra in Ezra 6:14 as one... The commandment of the God of Israel.

I see. This is where the slippery eel of taking Scripture as not literal will happen. Having this view invalidates your interpretation. Why would Ezra refer to actual literal decrees and then include a decree by God as not literal?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So no one is willing to take the Ezra 6:14 Test? Either your interpretation can't pass the test or your interpretation does not consider the Word of God as accurate. My claim is that ALL interpretations of the 70 Weeks Prophecy can not pass this test. Except for the one correct one.

Ezra 6:14 states that there were more than just 3 decrees from earthly kings that allowed for the rebuilding of the temple (and by extension, rebuilding Jerusalem). There was a fourth. In addition Ezra seems to list the earthly decrees in chronological order. That would suggest that the decree by God, which no one recognizes, happened BEFORE the one from Cyrus. Where is this decree? Why does no one recognize or address this? Can your particular system even survive taking this decree into account?

This is error

The command was not given to rebuild the city

That command was not given till later when it was given to Nehemiah by Artaxerxes..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I see. This is where the slippery eel of taking Scripture as not literal will happen. Having this view invalidates your interpretation. Why would Ezra refer to actual literal decrees and then include a decree by God as not literal?

Why would ezra give a command to rebuild the TEMPLE (house of God) when he (as you claim) meant to say the whole city?

 

[David in NJ]

but this is not true,

He arrived at the end of the 69th week.

He died a literal 7 day week later.

Good Morning Brother,

The Scripture states TWO important facts:
#1 - clearly says "after the 69th week"

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins, = Christ on the Cross / the New Covenant
To make reconciliation for iniquity, = Christ's Blood reconciles us back to God
To bring in everlasting righteousness, = Christ's Death/Resurrection/Ascension brought in Everlasting Righteousness
To seal up vision and prophecy, = REVELATION
And to anoint the Most Holy. = Hebrews = JESUS Ascended to Heaven and anointed the Holy Place with His Blood for us