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Here is my timeline and dates for Daniels 70-weeks prophecy.

"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city… Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks …
And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; … he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” (Daniel 9:24-27 NKJV abbrev.)




As you can see, I have it starting 457 BC date being Artaxerxes' 7th year. However, there have been no small number of differences when it comes to the terminus a quo of Daniels weeks. Some say the first year of Cyrus in 538 BC. Others say Darius (520 BC) Still others, Artaxerxes' 20th year (444 BC)

As if that wasn’t as all over the place enough, the crucifixion of Jesus – the high point of the prophecy – has ranged from AD 29 to AD 33!

We could do without the muddle and, as you can see, the diagram shows exactly 7 + 62 + ½ weeks from the emperor’s decree until the cross. Let’s discuss.
 
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Here is my timeline and dates for Daniels 70-weeks prophecy.

"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city… Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks …
And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; … he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” (Daniel 9:24-27 NKJV abbrev.)




As you can see, I have it starting 457 BC date being Artaxerxes' 7th year. However, there have been no small number of differences when it comes to the terminus a quo of Daniels weeks. Some say the first year of Cyrus in 538 BC. Others say Darius (520 BC) Still others, Artaxerxes' 20th year (444 BC)

As if that wasn’t as all over the place enough, the crucifixion of Jesus – the high point of the prophecy – has ranged from AD 29 to AD 33!

We could do without the muddle and, as you can see, the diagram shows exactly 7 + 62 + ½ weeks from the emperor’s decree until the cross. Let’s discuss.
Amen brother.

No decapitated 70th week.
 

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Here is my timeline and dates for Daniels 70-weeks prophecy.

"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city… Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks …
And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; … he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” (Daniel 9:24-27 NKJV abbrev.)




As you can see, I have it starting 457 BC date being Artaxerxes' 7th year. However, there have been no small number of differences when it comes to the terminus a quo of Daniels weeks. Some say the first year of Cyrus in 538 BC. Others say Darius (520 BC) Still others, Artaxerxes' 20th year (444 BC)

As if that wasn’t as all over the place enough, the crucifixion of Jesus – the high point of the prophecy – has ranged from AD 29 to AD 33!

We could do without the muddle and, as you can see, the diagram shows exactly 7 + 62 + ½ weeks from the emperor’s decree until the cross. Let’s discuss.

Yes there won’t be a future 70th week to do with any antichrist but this belief is a different view

This is a different than most views of Daniels 70 weeks. Most people put Daniels 70th week in the future and call it the time of Jacobs trouble or the great tribulation but the time table below shows a different interpretation which matches history. Remember there are no coincidences in the bible.

The vision of the angle Gabriel and the prophecy of the 70 weeks was an answer to Daniels prayer in Daniel 9:4-19. Daniels is praying to God and asking for mercy as he knew that the prophet Jeremiah had prophesied that the captivity would last for 70 years. The law of Moses states that they need to repent and turn back to God but the 70 years was almost up and the Jews were still not repenting. We see in the verses below that Daniel is pleading to God for mercy.

Daniel 9:17-19
17 “Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. 18 Give ear, our God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. 19 Lord, listen! Lord, forgive! Lord, hear and act! For your sake, my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name.”

The prophecy given by the angel Gabriel

Daniel 9:24-27
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. 25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

The 70 years would become 70 weeks of foreign control. The Jews would go back and rebuild Jerusalem but not as free people but under foreign control.


The 70 weeks are 490 years of prophecy.

The command by the angel Gabriel is to know and understand the prophecy. The decree (the word to go and rebuild Jerusalem) would trigger the understanding of the time line of the vision. Thus the decree of king Cyrus is the key to know and understand the 70 weeks. The decree of king Cyrus gives us a concrete date and point in time of the 70 weeks.

Below are the time lines of each set of weeks

605 B.C. The start of the 70 weeks Daniel and the Jews are taken into captivity. (time goes backwards from the time of Daniel vision)

587 B.C. Jerusalem is destroyed by Babylon the start of the 7 weeks (the 7 weeks runs parallel to some of the 62 weeks)

170/1 B.C. Onias 3rd is murdered (cut off and has nothing) the second anointed one the last of the Zadokite priesthood which was the start of the 70th week.

538 B.C. King Cyrus issues a decree to go and rebuild Jerusalem and Joshua (the first anointed one who was to come) goes back to rebuild Jerusalem. This is the end of the 7 weeks which was 49 years after 587 B.C. when Jerusalem was destroyed.


167 B.C. Antiochus Epiphanies 4th desecrates the temple ½ way through the 70th week. The abomination that caused desolation.

164/3 B.C. Antiochus Epiphanies 4th dies and the temple sacrifice is reestablished the end of the 70th week. (the end is poured out on him)

War continued during and until the end of the 70th week

The purposes of the 70 weeks in Daniel 9:24 were fulfilled by the Jews who remained loyal to God and resisted apostasy.

605 B.C.-171 B.C. 62 weeks or 434 years

587 B.C.-538 B.C. 7 weeks or 49 years

170/1 B.C.-164/3 B.C. 70th week or 7 years

Some versions of the bible use the word Messiah instead of the anointed one but that was a mistake and not the original meaning.

Below are three main points to show that Jesus wasn't any part of the prophecy of the 70 weeks


1-Some people think that the 70 weeks start in 445 BC, but this is 160 years after 605 B.C. when the Jews were taken into captivity. If this was the case then the curse of the covenant would not come into effect on those who did not repent-in 535 B.C. when Jeremiah's 70 years prophecy expired. Instead it would come their grandchildren and great grandchildren which would violate the principal of the Law of Moses that children pay the price for their parents and grandparents sins.


2-It says that the anointed one will come after 62 & 7 weeks but he is cut off after 62 weeks. How can the anointed one if it is one person come 49 years after he is cut off? This proves that it is two different people. If it is Jesus how could He come 49 years after he dies?


3-Not once in the bible did Jesus or any of the new testament writers ever claim that Jesus fulfilled any parts of the 70 weeks. This would not be missed and if it was Jesus it would prove who Jesus is to the Jews Especially in the book of Matthew. Thus Jesus is not either of the anointed ones in the prophecy of the 70 weeks.

This time line takes away the possibility of a future 70th week or even a future seven year tribulation.
 
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We could do without the muddle and, as you can see, the diagram shows exactly 7 + 62 + ½ weeks from the emperor’s decree until the cross. Let’s discuss.
That heptad or week of seven years does not apply to Christ. 3 1/2 years belong to the Antichrist and 3 1/2 years to the outcome of his Abomination of Desolation (the Great Tribulation).

And there was given unto him [the Antichrist] a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev 13:5)

42 months = 1260 days = 3 1/2 years = time, times, and half a time.
 
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605 B.C.-171 B.C. 62 weeks or 434 years

587 B.C.-538 B.C. 7 weeks or 49 years

170/1 B.C.-164/3 B.C. 70th week or 7 years
But you have the 62 set of weeks (434 years) starting earlier than the 7 set? The 7 set (49 years) was mentioned first wasn’t it?

3-Not once in the bible did Jesus or any of the new testament writers ever claim that Jesus fulfilled any parts of the 70 weeks. This would not be missed and if it was Jesus it would prove who Jesus is to the Jews Especially in the book of Matthew. Thus Jesus is not either of the anointed ones in the prophecy of the 70 weeks.
There is a good case that New Testament writers mention Daniel’s 70 weeks indirectly, including Matthew, and including Jesus himself.
 
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Yes there won’t be a future 70th week to do with any antichrist but this belief is a different view

This is a different than most views of Daniels 70 weeks. Most people put Daniels 70th week in the future and call it the time of Jacobs trouble or the great tribulation but the time table below shows a different interpretation which matches history. Remember there are no coincidences in the bible.

Past is past. Present is present. Future is future.

* Past -
God created and made, the Heaven and Earth and inhabiting hosts thereof the Heaven and Earth, and called His creations Very Good.
* Past -
Some hosts of heaven exercised their freewill and rebelled Against God, causing them to lose their heavenly estate and be cast to Earth.
* Past -
The first manKind of host created and made on and of the Earth, was created and made AFTER a cast from heaven Anti-God host was occupying the Earth.
* Past -
The first manKind created and made very good, was Put in Gods Garden, WITH Gods presence, and rebelled Against God, thereafter being cast out from Gods Garden.

* Noting the Past-
Heavenly host WITH God in Heaven, rebelled, cast out of Heaven.
....fell from holiness.
Earthly host WITH God in Garden, rebelled, cast out of Garden.
....fell from goodness.

* Wisdom -
With God is Holy. With God is Good.
Without God is separation from Holiness.
Without God is separation from Goodness.

* Past -
All Plants, Animals, Mankind Have their own reproducing SEEDS.
Each requires, water and its habitat Earth (Dry land) and the power of the sun/Son, to reproduce and mature and spring forth it’s own fruit.

* Past -
Plants, Animals, Mankind - Reproduce - (in brief)
With God...it flourishes with useful, pleasant, worthy fruit.
Without God....it flourishes with poisons, harmful, cautionary fruit.

* Past -
Gods Observance of Early Mankind, Reproducing as Gods Will established...
First man and woman, rebel, cast out of the Garden.
A son is born of them / Seth.
Seth has a son / Eber
* In the day of Eber / men begin to call on the Name of the Lord!
GRATIFYING to God.
Men continue Reproducing.
* Learning, Becoming Haughty, Vain, Violent, Rebelling Against God, tribulations of men against men, killing men, making their own gods.
* God Observes - DISAPPOINTED, ANGRY, JEALOUS.
* Gods REMEDY ~ unleash His WRATH.
Destroy Vain, Violent, Rebellious, mankind, WITH mankind’s own habitat (earth), via the Power of God. (Gen 6:13)

* Past - God’s REMEDY, “of” Gods GREAT Tribulation, sent down from Heaven, AGAINST ALL inhabitants upon the face of the Earth.
* Past - OH WAIT...wait...wait..
* ONE OLD MAN of all the Earths inhabitants, NOAH, (faithful to God)(head of his household, wife, 3 sons, JAPATH, SHEM, HAM, 3 daughter-in-laws).
* YEARS of Testing, WHILE preparing NOAH. (60 - 100 years approx.)
* Noah instructed (in the middle of Dry Land), to build an ARK.
* Account reveals Noah accomplished his task.

* Past - God accomplished His Great Tribulation, destroying the Earth and All inhabitants upon the Face of the Earth.
* Past - WHO, WHAT, WHEN, HOW, WHY... was destroyed, was SAVED, all reveal IN Scripture.

* Days from Beginning, Revealed.
* 4,000 Years of Repopulating the Earth, Generations, born, dying, Revealed.
* 4,000 Years of History, Divisions of men, Some calling on the Lord Gods Name, Some rebelling, rejecting the Lord God.
* 4,000 Years of History, Blessing (of God) upon men WITH the Lord God, Sufferings of men WITHOUT the Lord God.
* 4,000 Years of PROPHECY, of WHAT SHALL COME TO PASS.
* WITHIN the 4,000 Years of PROPHECY, men of their Generations EXPERIENCE FORESHADOWS of a GREATER PROPHECY NOT revealed IN THEIR GENERATION.

IF you DISMISS, WHAT did occur IN one Generation and WHAT had not YET occurred FOR FUTURE generation, OF the END of DAYS of Gods LAST GREAT TRIBULATION, YOU miss the BIG PICTURE.

* NOT a BIG SECRET...
anyone with eyes to see, ears to hear, nose to smell, tongue to taste, flesh to feel....can see the crime, violence, hear the disgusting speech, smell the stinking pollution, taste the dead food of the fields, feel decrepitude of flesh rot and disease...
(And IF you are paying close attention, those things are exponentially Increasing world wide.)

* NOT a BIG SECRET...anti-God, anti-Christ’s...Of hosts cast down from Heaven occupy the earth. Anti-God, anti-Christ’s ...Of hosts of men generationally out of the Earth occupy the earth.

* Not a BIG SECRET...inasmuch, as God instructed and PREPARED NOAH, BEFORE the Great Flood, AND NOAH was obedient to God PREPARING him, AND NOAH WAS SAVED FROM Gods DESTRUCTION OF the Earth...BY NOAH being LIFTED UP ABOVE THE EARTH... (Gen 7:17)

* Not a BIG SECRET...Gods Prophecy, Gods Warnings, Gods Signs, Are Becoming VISIBLY increasing and manifested upon the face of the earth.

* Not a BIG SECRET...2,000 years ago God SENT His Word TO EARTH,
TO reveal and offer, ALL of mankind, an ASSURED WAY, to BE PREPARED, (like Noah), SAVED and LIFTED UP ABOVE THE FACE OF THE EARTH...BEFORE the DAY of Gods SECOND and LAST Great Tribulation He SHALL SEND down from HEAVEN, TO SUFFER and DESTROY, ALL unrighteousness and rebellion AGAINST God, UPON the FACE of the Earth.

Don’t underestimate or deny the Word and Power of God to FULFILL His WILL.



Remember
;
Ecc 1
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
[10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
[14] I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

If you do not SEE, the vanity and vexation of spirit exponentially PROMOTED and increasing world wide upon the face of the Earth, and NOT KNOW, Gods anger in waxing hot and NOT KNOW, God has spoken, Via HIS WRATH, and His POWER, He SHALL put an END to this corrupt earth and it’s corrupt inhabitants...
YOU are NOT paying attention.

* Past * Corruption WAS, Corruption WAS destroyed.
* Present * Corruption IS,
* Future * Corruption SHALL AGAIN BE destroyed.
 

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Here is my timeline and dates for Daniels 70-weeks prophecy.

"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city… Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks …
And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; … he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” (Daniel 9:24-27 NKJV abbrev.)




As you can see, I have it starting 457 BC date being Artaxerxes' 7th year. However, there have been no small number of differences when it comes to the terminus a quo of Daniels weeks. Some say the first year of Cyrus in 538 BC. Others say Darius (520 BC) Still others, Artaxerxes' 20th year (444 BC)

As if that wasn’t as all over the place enough, the crucifixion of Jesus – the high point of the prophecy – has ranged from AD 29 to AD 33!

We could do without the muddle and, as you can see, the diagram shows exactly 7 + 62 + ½ weeks from the emperor’s decree until the cross. Let’s discuss.
Perfect. What could be included with the starting point 457 BC is the forty-nine years allotted to the building of the city and the wall. On this point, one historian, Prideaux, points out and says: "In the fifteenth year of Darius Nothus ended the first seven weeks of the seventy weeks of Daniel's prophecy. For then the restoration of the church and state of the Jews in Jerusalem and Judea was fully finished, in that last act of reformation, which is recorded in the thirteenth chapter of Nehemiah, from the twenty-third verse to the end of the chapter, just forty-nine years after it had been first begun by Ezra in the seventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus." This was 408 BC.
 

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Not once in the bible did Jesus or any of the new testament writers ever claim that Jesus fulfilled any parts of the 70 weeks.

Mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

The time was the 70th week.
Fulfilled in Christ, His Gospel, His Kingdom.
Declared by Himself.
 
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Mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

The time was the 70th week.
Fulfilled in Christ, His Gospel, His Kingdom.
Declared by Himself.

I don't see that as solid fulfillment surely Jesus or any NT writer especially Matthew would of confirmed it like Matthew repeatly did in his gospel.

I think the points in my post hold water

1-Some people think that the 70 weeks start in 445 BC, but this is 160 years after 605 B.C. when the Jews were taken into captivity. If this was the case then the curse of the covenant would not come into effect on those who did not repent-in 535 B.C. when Jeremiah's 70 years prophecy expired. Instead it would come their grandchildren and great grandchildren which would violate the principal of the Law of Moses that children pay the price for their parents and grandparents sins.


2-It says that the anointed one will come after 62 & 7 weeks but he is cut off after 62 weeks. How can the anointed one if it is one person come 49 years after he is cut off? This proves that it is two different people. If it is Jesus how could He come 49 years after he dies?

Also why is there such a gap to 70AD?
 
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The time was the 70th week.
Fulfilled in Christ, His Gospel, His Kingdom. Declared by Himself.
This is completely false. If the 70th week was already fulfilled, then the entire prophecy of the 70 weeks would also have been fulfilled.

But none of the necessary conditions have been fulfilled, therefore there is no everlasting righteousness (Dan 9:24) on earth right now. If anything there is presently more evil on earth than has been seen in the last 100 years!

The 70th week of Daniel has absolutely nothing to do with the ministry of Christ. It has everything to do with the reign of the Antichrist, and one only has to look at verse 27 to see that, since it refers to the Abomination of Desolation: And he [the Antichrist] shall confirm the [bogus] covenant with many for one week [seven years]: and in the midst of the week [at the end of 3 1/2 years] he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [in the temple at Jerusalem], and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate [the Great Tribulation].
 
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But you have the 62 set of weeks (434 years) starting earlier than the 7 set? The 7 set (49 years) was mentioned first wasn’t it?

There is a good case that New Testament writers mention Daniel’s 70 weeks indirectly, including Matthew, and including Jesus himself.

Daniel 9:25-26
25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed

Yes but it says that the anointed one comes after the 7's & 62-7's but then is cut off only after the 62-7's. Thus there are two anointed ones. How could Jesus be cut off 7-7,s before He comes?
 

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This is completely false. If the 70th week was already fulfilled, then the entire prophecy of the 70 weeks would also have been fulfilled.

It's false if you disbelieve Mark 1:14-15.

I happen to believe it.

But none of the necessary conditions have been fulfilled, therefore there is no everlasting righteousness (Dan 9:24) on earth right now. If anything there is presently more evil on earth than has been seen in the last 100 years!

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1 John 2:29
If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

If that righteousness is not everlasting righteousness, when did it end?
Support your claim with Scripture, of course.

The 70th week of Daniel has absolutely nothing to do with the ministry of Christ. It has everything to do with the reign of the Antichrist, and one only has to look at verse 27 to see that, since it refers to the Abomination of Desolation: And he [the Antichrist] shall confirm the [bogus] covenant with many for one week [seven years]: and in the midst of the week [at the end of 3 1/2 years] he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [in the temple at Jerusalem], and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate [the Great Tribulation].

Cite the verse in Daniel 9 containing the word "antichrist".
Then highlight the word "antichrist" to make sure that we don't miss it.
Then italicize the word "antichrist" to make doubly sure that we don't miss it.
 
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I don't see that as solid fulfillment surely Jesus or any NT writer especially Matthew would of confirmed it like Matthew repeatly did in his gospel.

I think the points in my post hold water

1-Some people think that the 70 weeks start in 445 BC, but this is 160 years after 605 B.C. when the Jews were taken into captivity. If this was the case then the curse of the covenant would not come into effect on those who did not repent-in 535 B.C. when Jeremiah's 70 years prophecy expired. Instead it would come their grandchildren and great grandchildren which would violate the principal of the Law of Moses that children pay the price for their parents and grandparents sins.


2-It says that the anointed one will come after 62 & 7 weeks but he is cut off after 62 weeks. How can the anointed one if it is one person come 49 years after he is cut off? This proves that it is two different people. If it is Jesus how could He come 49 years after he dies?

Also why is there such a gap to 70AD?

Christ's own claim of the fulfillment of the time was sufficient.

Nothing requires the inclusion of 70AD in the 70 weeks. 70AD records the subsequent consequential events resulting from those within the 70 weeks.

There is only one prophetic event that could satisfy the combined criteria of fulfillment at an identifiable time, announcement of the Kingdom of God, and accomplishment through the preaching of the Gospel; all by Christ Himself.

That prophetic event was Daniel's 70th week.
 

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Perfect. What could be included with the starting point 457 BC is the forty-nine years allotted to the building of the city and the wall. On this point, one historian, Prideaux, points out and says: "In the fifteenth year of Darius Nothus ended the first seven weeks of the seventy weeks of Daniel's prophecy. For then the restoration of the church and state of the Jews in Jerusalem and Judea was fully finished, in that last act of reformation, which is recorded in the thirteenth chapter of Nehemiah, from the twenty-third verse to the end of the chapter, just forty-nine years after it had been first begun by Ezra in the seventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus." This was 408 BC.
It’s good to know that historians support the 457 BC date. And yes, 408 BC ended the first set of 7 weeks (49 years after that) I can’t fit it in the diagram, but thanks for that.
 
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Not once in the bible did Jesus or any of the new testament writers ever claim that Jesus fulfilled any parts of the 70 weeks. This would not be missed and if it was Jesus it would prove who Jesus is to the Jews Especially in the book of Matthew.

Well, Saints Paul, Matthew, Luke, John, Peter and John the Baptist all refer to the start of Daniel’s seventieth week. As for a reference to the entirety of the seventy weeks, we can point to how Jesus alludes to the Seventy Weeks in cryptic language.

The verse I am thinking of is when Peter asked Jesus how often should he forgive, then suggested what he thought was generous "Up to seven times," he posits.

"Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven." (Matthew 18:21-22)

Jesus answer was cryptic, but I think he was referring to the long era of forgiveness 490 years that God was giving his people Israel until he introduced his New Covenant. In other words, if it was good enough for God to wait seventy times seven, it is good enough for us to forgive seventy times seven too.

Surely Jesus had Daniel in mind when he made that statement.
 

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Well, Saints Paul, Matthew, Luke, John, Peter and John the Baptist all refer to the start of Daniel’s seventieth week. As for a reference to the entirety of the seventy weeks, we can point to how Jesus alludes to the Seventy Weeks in cryptic language.

The verse I am thinking of is when Peter asked Jesus how often should he forgive, then suggested what he thought was generous "Up to seven times," he posits.

"Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven." (Matthew 18:21-22)

Jesus answer was cryptic, but I think he was referring to the long era of forgiveness 490 years that God was giving his people Israel until he introduced his New Covenant. In other words, if it was good enough for God to wait seventy times seven, it is good enough for us to forgive seventy times seven too.

Surely Jesus had Daniel in mind when he made that statement.
interesting parallel !
 

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Cite the verse in Daniel 9 containing the word "antichrist".
This is childish nonsense. If you are unable to see the Antichrist in the books of Daniel and Revelation, then you have a serious problem in comprehending Bible prophecy. But to assign the period designated for the Antichrist (the Beast, the Man of Sin) to Christ is actually blasphemous!

The fact that EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Dan 9:24) does not exist on earth right now proves how mistaken you people are. When that prophecy is fulfilled there will indeed be everlasting righteousness on earth.
 

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The fact that EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Dan 9:24) does not exist on earth right now proves how mistaken you people are. When that prophecy is fulfilled there will indeed be everlasting righteousness on earth.
I would say Enoch, you are looking purely from man's perspective not God's.
God did something in Jesus (the whole event) independent of mans choices and rational. It is our privilege to try to understand this. It consists of a gratuity man could not invent or even imagine.....briefly summed up as Good News.

Unless we are open and admit to ourselves that our best rational, our best conclusions, our best religion doesn't get anywhere near what God has (past tense) achieved in Jesus and his resurrection, we just become religiously bigoted pains in the backside......all the while our egos telling us we are persecuted for the truth.
That's how sick the human mind is. The unregenerate human mind stays locked in self, self interest, judgement of others and feigned humility in a thousand shades.
 
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This is childish nonsense. If you are unable to see the Antichrist in the books of Daniel and Revelation, then you have a serious problem in comprehending Bible prophecy. But to assign the period designated for the Antichrist (the Beast, the Man of Sin) to Christ is actually blasphemous!

Far worse than childish nonsense is the psychosis of interpretation by hallucination which sees apparitions that do not exist.

Waiting for you to show us your hallucinatory appartition "antichrist".

The antichrist that dispensational futurism has embraced from the counter-reformation of the historical apostasized papacy.

The fact that EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Dan 9:24) does not exist on earth right now proves how mistaken you people are. When that prophecy is fulfilled there will indeed be everlasting righteousness on earth.

You deny and reject the everlasting righteousness of Daniel 9:24, confirmed in 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 Peter 2:24, and 1 John 2:29, which Christ fulfilled at Calvary.

Daniel didn't deny and reject it.

Paul didn't.

Peter didn't.

John didn't.

I don't.
 
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