Apokatastasis in the early church

[David in NJ]

Do you just make this up as you go along?

What is it that every prophet says? "Thus saith the Lord . . ." There is one exception, Jesus, Who is the LORD.

Pay attention to these things.

@marks = TODAY you can choose the Path of TRUTH with Christ

Able was a Prophet = Able never said "thus saith the Lord" as recorded in Scripture

Noah was a Prophet = Noah never said "thus saith the Lord' as recorded in Scripture
JESUS is The PROPHET = never once said "thus saith the LORD" = WHY??? = because HE is the LORD !!!

God made them Able, Noah, Job Prophets by and thru their life of Faith in the Word = God said thru them "thus Saith the LORD"

Gospel News FLASH = James included Job with the OT Prophets because God did first

“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.”

 

[David in NJ]

Quote where Job is called a prophet, or where Job stated, "thus says the LORD". Before deflecting to other passages. Changing the subject tells me you know you are wrong but will not admit it.

Post 379

 

[marks]

@marks, you do it to yourself everytime you exalt the error of dispensation above Christ

You are doing it now to yourself with Job and James.

Children SEE where adults stumble over the Word

marks, your understanding will increase to LIGHT thru Christ's command = Matt 18:1-5

I challenge you to believe the Scriptures and stop adding to them.

Where is Job called a prophet? Where does Job speak in the Name of the LORD?

If you continue to ignore these things you will remain in your error. Please - look at this. Look at Job. Does the Bible call him a prophet? No. You do. Therefore, you need correction.

Building blocks, we start simply.

 

[marks]

“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.”

This does not say they were prophets. Why are you fighting so hard against truth??

Ezekiel, who used those words, Saith the Lord God, was a prophet. This is right in front of you. Can you acknowledge this? If you cannot walk with the footmen, how will you run with the horsemen?

Relook at this passage, for what it says, and not for what it does not say. Otherwise, you are just making up what you want it to say.

 

[marks]

Post 379

Quote where Job is called a prophet, or where Job stated, "thus says the LORD". Before deflecting to other passages. Changing the subject, and deflecting, as you have been doing, tells me you know you are wrong but will not admit it.


This should mean something to you, that you cannot answer this.

Post 379 is my post, and does not say Job was a prophet.

 

[amigo de christo]

YEPPER - and JOB said the same thing = Prophetically

And now for the parable of the great and mighty math teacher .
he stood before all and was well learned in mathematics .
But what he did not realize was
You cant teach Calculus to one who has never even learned how to add or subtract
how to even multiply or divide .
Pray about this david .
Because what i am s eeing in this generation
IS a massive abandonment from e ven the gospel itself as unbelief is embraced
As even are certain sins .
You cannot give algebra to a pre schooler who even knows not his right hand from his left .
YOU DO realize more and more are falling faster and faster for the lie .
I watch folks . And i am telling us that just about everyone even here
already has a bad thing in common . and if they do not come out from under it
THEY DOING DOWN david . GOING DOWN on the day of the LORD .
Just a reminder for us all .

 

[marks]

God made them Able, Noah, Job Prophets by and thru their life of Faith in the Word = God said thru them "thus Saith the LORD"

You are misrepresenting the passage. Ezekiel said, "thus saith the Lord God" speaking concerning these others. He did not declare them prophets, he gave a prophetic declaration about these men.

Do you not care in the least that you are misrepresenting God's Word? How can you not care?

 

[marks]

Children SEE where adults stumble over the Word

I see you stumbling left and right. I urge you to re-examine these Scriptures.

 

[David in NJ]

I see you stumbling left and right. I urge you to re-examine these Scriptures.

You are looking in the mirror when you say such things.
But you refuse to even listen to yourself = "I urge you to re-examine the Scriptures"

 

[marks]

You are looking in the mirror when you say such things.

Relook at my posts. I'm offering this to you, challenging you to consider that your words do not match the Bible. If all you can do it laugh it off, that's not going to bring you closer to truth.

But if you will at consider these things . . . I've pointed out specific assertions you've made that are contrary to Scripture. Please consider these things.

 

[David in NJ]

Relook at my posts. I'm offering this to you, challenging you to consider that your words do not match the Bible. If all you can do it laugh it off, that's not going to bring you closer to truth.

But if you will at consider these things . . . I've pointed out specific assertions you've made that are contrary to Scripture. Please consider these things.

i laugh off "every wind of doctrine of men"

@marks laughs off "thus saith the LORD" = Ezekiel 14:20

Able was a Prophet = Able never said "thus saith the Lord" as recorded in Scripture

Noah was a Prophet = Noah never said "thus saith the Lord' as recorded in Scripture
JESUS is The PROPHET = never once said "thus saith the LORD" = WHY??? = because HE is the LORD !!!

God made them Able, Noah, Job Prophets by and thru their life of Faith in the Word = God said thru them "thus Saith the LORD"

Gospel News FLASH = James included Job with the OT Prophets because God did first

“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.”

 

[amigo de christo]

i laugh off "every wind of doctrine of men"

@marks laughs off "thus saith the LORD" = Ezekiel 14:20

Able was a Prophet = Able never said "thus saith the Lord" as recorded in Scripture

Noah was a Prophet = Noah never said "thus saith the Lord' as recorded in Scripture
JESUS is The PROPHET = never once said "thus saith the LORD" = WHY??? = because HE is the LORD !!!

God made them Able, Noah, Job Prophets by and thru their life of Faith in the Word = God said thru them "thus Saith the LORD"

Gospel News FLASH = James included Job with the OT Prophets because God did first

“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.”

you need only ask these unto whom you are speaking
About their affilation . go on , ask them .
Ask them about this unity and finding common ground and how they hold to politics
hold to the earthen . You gonna weep friend .
One cannot teach a man if said man is already in trouble and error .
HE MUST first correct said trouble and error .
You would marvel at who has me on ignore and the real reason they have me on ignore .
This generation has its hopes in men my friend . Either in their leaders in churches
in politiicians , in etc . THIS IS A blaring fact my friend . BUT YOU go
and you start asking folks the very simple things my friend . But prepare to have a box of kleenex nearby
CAUSE when you start bringing them back to even the simple basics
Reminding them about the teachings of JESUS
and exposing their earthen hopes , YOU WILL SEE . And you will weep my friend .
You will weep for them .
Todays generation is as a ping pong b all
that gets tossed and hit between a man on the right and a man on the left
ONLY the darn ball is too ignorant to find out BOTH MEN simply use it for ENTERTAINMENT .

 

[David in NJ]

you need only ask these unto whom you are speaking
About their affilation . go on , ask them .
Ask them about this unity and finding common ground and how they hold to politics
hold to the earthen . You gonna weep friend .
One cannot teach a man if said man is already in trouble and error .
HE MUST first correct said trouble and error .
You would marvel at who has me on ignore and the real reason they have me on ignore .
This generation has its hopes in men my friend . Either in their leaders in churches
in politiicians , in etc . THIS IS A blaring fact my friend . BUT YOU go
and you start asking folks the very simple things my friend . But prepare to have a box of kleenex nearby
CAUSE when you start bringing them back to even the simple basics
Reminding them about the teachings of JESUS
and exposing their earthen hopes , YOU WILL SEE . And you will weep my friend .
You will weep for them .
Todays generation is as a ping pong b all
that gets tossed and hit between a man on the right and a man on the left
ONLY the darn ball is too ignorant to find out BOTH MEN simply use it for ENTERTAINMENT .

the Sin that keeps people bound in unbelief = "respect of persons"

 

[marks]

@marks laughs off "thus saith the LORD" = Ezekiel 14:20

False accusation. Here again, this should mean something to you.

In the first place you were the one responding with "laugh" emoji's.

You cited this passage to show that Job was a prophet.

Ezekiel 14:18-21 KJV
18) Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves.
19) Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:
20) Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
21) For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

This passage in no wise shows Job to be a prophet, however, this means nothing to you. Only that you will ridicule me for failing to agree with your false representation of this Scripture.

You've gotten an idea in your head, and you will shamelessly misuse God's Word to try to defend your error.

Are you willing to look at this? Or will you continue to refuse? I've posted it here for your review.

 

[marks]

the Sin that keeps people bound in unbelief = "respect of persons"

What we are seeing here is disbelief in God's Word. Please reconsider!

 

[marks]

i laugh off "every wind of doctrine of men"

What you are currently laughing off are the Scriptures. Please reconsider!

 

[amigo de christo]

the Sin that keeps people bound in unbelief = "respect of persons"

and what is the number one person they respect
and hold too and bow before . THEY SELF and tis why they run to men that preach WHATEFVER fullfills the desires of that god .
Goats , whether in appearance of wool or not
feast upon what so ever feeds their own lustful hearts desire and giveth them the promise of some good ending too .
But what does a sheep feast upon .
THE WORDS OF THE HOLY GOD HIMSELF . and even if loving on such words , such lovely truth
costs them all , WELL BY GOLLY they aint sellling the TRUTH . somet hing i truly wish many understood david .

 

[David in NJ]

False accusation. In the first place you were the one responding with "laugh" emoji's.

You cited this passage to show that Job was a prophet.

Ezekiel 14:18-21 KJV
18) Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves.
19) Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:
20) Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
21) For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

This passage in no wise shows Job to be a prophet, however, this means nothing to you. Only that you will ridicule me for failing to agree with your false representation of this Scripture.

You've gotten an idea in you head, and you will shamelessly misuse God's Word to try to defend your error.

Are you willing to look at this? Or will you continue to refuse? I've posted it here for your review.

The Holy Spirit in me is reaching out to you with a Olive Branch

If you want to be strict in defining a "prophet" as only to one who says: "thus saith the Lord" then you must acknowledge that GOD has Spoken Prophetic words of Truth in and thru Abel, Enoch, Noah, Job, Hannah, Simeon and more

And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the Consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27So he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when the parents brought in the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law, 28he took Him up in his arms and blessed God and said:

29“Lord, now You are letting Your servant depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30For my eyes have seen Your salvation
31Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples,
32A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”
Then

What you are currently laughing off are the Scriptures. Please reconsider!

DITTO marks - DITTO

SHALOM my brother in CHRIST = always know this

 

[Wick Stick]

YEPPER - and JOB said the same thing = Prophetically

Uh... no he didn't

 

[Wick Stick]

#3 - My Pastor is Christ = you can tell your pastor to come and learn from this "little stone" in Christ = Matt 18:1-5

That's true for us all, but...

I think, perhaps, you're saying that you lack a person with whom you can discuss the Scriptures and hold each other accountable. Say it ain't so?