Apokatastasis in the early church

[David in NJ]

Really just one person made a fairly obvious misattribution, and rather than just saying, "oops!" they've expended multiple pages trying to justify themself

Really?

"The Book of Job contains significant prophecies, particularly Job's declaration of a Redeemer in Job 19:25-27, which expresses hope in a future resurrection. Additionally, Job's experiences and suffering are often seen as foreshadowing the trials of Christ, highlighting themes of redemption and divine sovereignty."

when you are ready to apologize, i am here

“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,
which I have reserved for the time of trouble, for the day of battle and war?” (Job 38:22-23)

Have you ever noticed the phrase, “the time of trouble”? Other translations say reserved for “the time of distress”. You will also notice the reference to “the day” of battle and war. These are standard phrases referring to the days of the Tribulation. (For example, Jeremiah 30:7, Obadiah 1:14, Joel 2:11).

God has used hail before in judgment and He will do so again. In the past, He used hail during the plagues He sent to Pharaoh, in themselves pictures of the Revelation judgments of the coming Tribulation.

“The hail struck down everything that was in the field in all the land of Egypt, both man and beast. And the hail struck down every plant of the field and broke every tree of the field“. (Exodus 9:25)

The future judgment will contain another plague of hail-

And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe. (Revelation 16:21)

 

[David in NJ]

Really just one person made a fairly obvious misattribution, and rather than just saying, "oops!" they've expended multiple pages trying to justify themself

Goal posts moved again and prophecy quoted from Job 5:13 by the apostle Paul

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.” = 1 Cor 3:19

religion = always goes after the Truth to belittle, mock and demean those who "live by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"

 

[Wick Stick]

JESUS moves the Goal Posts

 

[David in NJ]

Goal posts moved again = Hebrews 12:5 quotes Job 5:17

Job 5:17 - Behold, happy is the man whom God corrects;
Therefore do not despise the chastening of the Almighty.

Hebrews 12:5 - And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:
“My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;

When you are ready, your apology is due

 

[St. SteVen]

"The Book of Job contains significant prophecies, particularly Job's declaration of a Redeemer in Job 19:25-27, which expresses hope in a future resurrection. Additionally, Job's experiences and suffering are often seen as foreshadowing the trials of Christ, highlighting themes of redemption and divine sovereignty."

when you are ready to apologize, i am here

Your citation states that "The Book of Job contains significant prophecies,"
It does not credit Job as a Prophet.

When you are ready to apologize, we are here.

 

[David in NJ]

"The Book of Job contains significant prophecies, particularly Job's declaration of a Redeemer in Job 19:25-27, which expresses hope in a future resurrection. Additionally, Job's experiences and suffering are often seen as foreshadowing the trials of Christ, highlighting themes of redemption and divine sovereignty."

Your citation states that "The Book of Job contains significant prophecies,"
It does not credit Job as a Prophet.

When you are ready to apologize, we are here.

2 Peter 1:19-21 - And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit of Truth/Prophecy is not looking for your approval.


When you St. Stephen and the other mockers are ready to apologize = i am here
It will occur here or in Heaven = your choice = Isaiah 66:5

Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at his word: “Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name, have said, ‘Let the LORD be glorified, that we may see your joy!’
Yet they will be put to shame.

 

[amigo de christo]

Karl Marx Said, 'Accuse Your Enemy of What You Are Doing'?​

and that has become the life lesson and motto of many within even christendom .
How often i have seen accusations of men accusing me
of what they themselves are guilty of doing .
marvel not for ye shall see even greater abominations than these .
For many now embrace the god of this world and accuse the one of the BIBLE .
They follow a god and its love and believe its love
and yet its love has cast far away the very words and LOVE OF GOD .
And they rail on us as haters , and yet it be they who are the haters .
People have no idea what seeker friendly did . they simply loved it and took it
as though it were of GOD when in truth it was of another god who has always desired
the d eath of humanity so he feeds them their lustful hearts desires and cloaks it as t ruth and even as love .
Just in case i have not said it as of late , THIS GENERATION is in deadly dire trouble and has no idea
what IT OPENED THE DOOR unto when it opened up this box of love , this trogan horse .
But had no idea what was inside and that it was a present
sent as a love offering and yet within were men who literally destroyed and reshaped
churches from within .

 

[amigo de christo]

2 peter 1:19-21 - And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit of Truth/Prophecy is not looking for your approval.


When you St. Stephen and the other mockers are ready to apologize = i am here
It will occur here or in Heaven = your choice = Isaiah 66:5

Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at his word: “Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name, have said, ‘Let the LORD be glorified, that we may see your joy!’
Yet they will be put to shame.

Go to and behold and you shall see even greater abominations than these .
Many now embrace a god that came from within cloaked in wool
and led this people to itself as though it be GOD .
I have often heard a phrase used
that says when it cometh to choosing between the scriptures and love , we choose love. TALK about A DELUSION .
I MEAN they all say GOD IS LOVE and yet sure seem to cast his words far behind them as though
HIS OWN WORDS are hate and hate speech . Many love not the truth and yet believe they LOVE GOD and even have
the LOVE OF GOD upon them . But the last time i checked CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH
it dont try and twist t ruth , and omit truth . St steven and scores of others
beleive they do the work and working of God , and yet SINCE WHEN WOULD GOD EVER
have presented an image of HIMSELF that seems to have a problem WITH THE VERY WORDS HE INSPIRED .
The only god i know that would say and do such a thing , WILL NOT be captilized on my watch . For he is the one
who said and still says , HAS GOD REALLY said and then TWISTES them words into a lie . that one
the sheep wont heed . Nope the sheep HEED THIS GOD . I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA
and that GOD has always desired obediance . their god seems to desire the YE SHALL BE AS gods
and sure will twist SUCH LOVELY GOD inspired words unto their own destruction . just a friendly ,stern
and dire necessary reminder for this people .
They have made men their God . And that will not bode well for them at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

 

[amigo de christo]

take a good long look at that . that is exactly what this so called ecumeincal love train
and its religious leaders would have done to JESUS
as they now treat his own sheep as such . LOOK AT IT and WEEP ever last one
who is connected to this harlots cup of fornication .

 

[David in NJ]

Go to and behold and you shall see even greater abominations than these .
Many now embrace a god that came from within cloaked in wool
and led this people to itself as though it be GOD .
I have often heard a phrase used
that says when it cometh to choosing between the scriptures and love , we choose love. TALK about A DELUSION .
I MEAN they all say GOD IS LOVE and yet sure seem to cast his words far behind them as though
HIS OWN WORDS are hate and hate speech . Many love not the truth and yet believe they LOVE GOD and even have
the LOVE OF GOD upon them . But the last time i checked CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH
it dont try and twist t ruth , and omit truth . St steven and scores of others
beleive they do the work and working of God , and yet SINCE WHEN WOULD GOD EVER
have presented an image of HIMSELF that seems to have a problem WITH THE VERY WORDS HE INSPIRED .
The only god i know that would say and do such a thing , WILL NOT be captilized on my watch . For he is the one
who said and still says , HAS GOD REALLY said and then TWISTES them words into a lie . that one
the sheep wont heed . Nope the sheep HEED THIS GOD . I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA
and that GOD has always desired obediance . their god seems to desire the YE SHALL BE AS gods
and sure will twist SUCH LOVELY GOD inspired words unto their own destruction . just a friendly ,stern
and dire necessary reminder for this people .
They have made men their God . And that will not bode well for them at all .

the apostacy is in full momentum - just as it was when Christ walked this earth = John 8:59

Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple,

The most Glorious Temple of GOD became a place of idolatry and hatred against GOD

Therefore GOD had to destroy that which was a place of prayer for all people.

Notice how that which GOD destroyed, religion and men seek to rebuild for their own glory.

 

[amigo de christo]

the apostacy is in full momentum - just as it was when Christ walked this earth = John 8:59

Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple,

The most Glorious Temple of GOD became a place of idolatry and hatred against GOD

Therefore GOD had to destroy that which was a place of prayer for all people.

Notice how that which GOD destroyed, religion and men seek to rebuild for their own glory.

What became of them
has become OF CHRISTENDOM . the falling away , the great time of apostacy HAS ARISEN
and many now embrace and love
an image that they beleive as do a child IS GOD
only that image of their god and its love , its unity and its ecumencism
Would do exactly what the religious leaders of JESUS day
did to him , DELIVERED HIM OVER to be put to death .
AND this is gonna come upon the saints . marvel not , SAID JESUS LONG AGO , if the world hate you
KNOW that it hated me first . The time will come when those who even kill you will
beleive they do the will of GOD . That time is about TO PEAK my friend . they will merge
via interfaith ecumincal idolarty anti christ harlot led cup of fornication
and they will heed the solution to rid this earth of the sheep . WEEP FOR THEM david . NOT for us
FOR THEM . because if this tribulations and persecutions can come upon the true church
WHAT DO YOU THINK is gonna come upon them .

 

[David in NJ]

What became of them
has become OF CHRISTENDOM . the falling away , the great time of apostacy HAS ARISEN
and many now embrace and love
an image that they beleive as do a child IS GOD
only that image of their god and its love , its unity and its ecumencism
Would do exactly what the religious leaders of JESUS day
did to him , DELIVERED HIM OVER to be put to death .
AND this is gonna come upon the saints . marvel not , SAID JESUS LONG AGO , if the world hate you
KNOW that it hated me first . The time will come when those who even kill you will
beleive they do the will of GOD . That time is about TO PEAK my friend . they will merge
via interfaith ecumincal idolarty anti christ harlot led cup of fornication
and they will heed the solution to rid this earth of the sheep . WEEP FOR THEM david . NOT for us
FOR THEM . because if this tribulations and persecutions can come upon the true church
WHAT DO YOU THINK is gonna come upon them .

True to their nature, they will do what Saul and the Sanhendrin did to Stephen

 

[amigo de christo]

the apostacy is in full momentum - just as it was when Christ walked this earth = John 8:59

Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple,

The most Glorious Temple of GOD became a place of idolatry and hatred against GOD

Therefore GOD had to destroy that which was a place of prayer for all people.

Notice how that which GOD destroyed, religion and men seek to rebuild for their own glory.

And even worse they USE JESUS NAME to persecute his own .
They would have RAILED on men like paul , peter , john , james , jude , steven and scores of others .
THEY WOULD have called them haters
and worse THEY HAD DONE TO JESUS HIMSELF . their jesus IS NOT THE JESUS their god is nOT OUR GOD .
WEEP for these lost souls trapped in this delusion .
WE know full well we are appointed unto tribulation . BUT HOW much worse for those
who betrayed the sheep and fell in love with a lie , ON THE DAY OF ALL MIGHTY GOD and of the LAMB .
fear them not . fear not a one of them or what they can do to us .
The most they can do is kill the body . I Will tell us who we ought to fear , honor and to LOVE
HE WHO HAS POWER to cast both body and soul into hells fire
AND YET because HE DID SO LOVE THE WORLD HE DID SEND THE SON
Only many use THE lovely name of JESUS to DENY JESUS , HIS GOSPEL and to bash on his saints .
WEEP for them david . I dont want one tear for me . WE HAVE HOPE , WE HAVE GOD , WE HAVE CHRIST
and to HE WE OWE ALL . tis them i fear for and its why i keep warning .

 

[amigo de christo]

True to their nature, they will do what Saul and the Sanhendrin did to Stephen

I just pray some repent as DID Saul and truly come to CHRIST , before FOREVER IT IS TOO LATE .
Fear not a one of them . fear not man . FEAR GOD and HONOR THE KING JESUS .
the cost will be the cost .

 

[Marvelloustime]

What became of them
has become OF CHRISTENDOM . the falling away , the great time of apostacy HAS ARISEN
and many now embrace and love
an image that they beleive as do a child IS GOD
only that image of their god and its love , its unity and its ecumencism
Would do exactly what the religious leaders of JESUS day
did to him , DELIVERED HIM OVER to be put to death .
AND this is gonna come upon the saints . marvel not , SAID JESUS LONG AGO , if the world hate you
KNOW that it hated me first . The time will come when those who even kill you will
beleive they do the will of GOD . That time is about TO PEAK my friend . they will merge
via interfaith ecumincal idolarty anti christ harlot led cup of fornication
and they will heed the solution to rid this earth of the sheep . WEEP FOR THEM david . NOT for us
FOR THEM . because if this tribulations and persecutions can come upon the true church
WHAT DO YOU THINK is gonna come upon them .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

And even worse they USE JESUS NAME to persecute his own .
They would have RAILED on men like paul , peter , john , james , jude , steven and scores of others .
THEY WOULD have called them haters
and worse THEY HAD DONE TO JESUS HIMSELF . their jesus IS NOT THE JESUS their god is nOT OUR GOD .
WEEP for these lost souls trapped in this delusion .
WE know full well we are appointed unto tribulation . BUT HOW much worse for those
who betrayed the sheep and fell in love with a lie , ON THE DAY OF ALL MIGHTY GOD and of the LAMB .
fear them not . fear not a one of them or what they can do to us .
The most they can do is kill the body . I Will tell us who we ought to fear , honor and to LOVE
HE WHO HAS POWER to cast both body and soul into hells fire
AND YET because HE DID SO LOVE THE WORLD HE DID SEND THE SON
Only many use THE lovely name of JESUS to DENY JESUS , HIS GOSPEL and to bash on his saints .
WEEP for them david . I dont want one tear for me . WE HAVE HOPE , WE HAVE GOD , WE HAVE CHRIST
and to HE WE OWE ALL . tis them i fear for and its why i keep warning .

@amigo de christo

 

[David in NJ]

Good Morning,

A quick note with a fresh cup of Truth this morning = "Thy word is Truth"

Acts 3:21 -
Lord Jesus Christ/whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things,
which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Who are the holy prophets "since the world began"??? = Abel is the first "holy prophet since the world began"

Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all
the righteous blood shed on the earth, from/Beginning with the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ = Abel was the very first holy prophet to be murdered = Matthew 23:31-36
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Moving the Goal Posts

Psalm 45 was written by the sons of Korah = they were not 'prophets' YET they prophesied = Hebrews 1:8

Psalm 45:6-7
Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

Hebrews 1:8
But to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

the writer of Hebrews ADDED = "But to the Son He says"

i never move the Holy Scripture to conform to my will as those who promote pre-trib rapture do
Please make note- Thank You

 

[The Learner]

The Jews have never reckoned Job among the Prophets, but rather among the Writings. The New Testament doesn't quote Job as a prophet, either. There's no evidence the early church treated it as such.

I might suggest that you put this question to your pastor. Not everything in the Bible is prophecy.

Church Fathers Scripture Index

www.catholiccrossreference.online

too tired to copy and paste ouchhhh shoulderrs

 

[The Learner]

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