Many Say ‘Just Believe’… But What Did Jesus Actually Teach?

[amigo de christo]

No, Your the one confused

you teach conditional life not eternal life.

Jesus said they will never perish, not they might not perish.


Keep trying

verily verily i do type unto us all , that someone has been lying to this entire generation .
And that even the most adamant t rump supporters , to progressive liberal supporters
from the protestant to the catholic , THEY are now all beginning to buy this one self same identical lie .
ANY Guesses on what it is . That faith in , believing in JESUS is at most an elective BUT NOT NECESSARY .
THAT WHORE HAS THEM ALL NOW . her inclusive love song has sold a lie to them all through her
intefaith interreligious dialagoue .
SORRY but that be of many anti christs . YOU wanna see the common mindset
that many liberals who claim God , and many evangelicals who claim God
all have in common now . A FAT LIE of unbelief . WELL NOT ON MY WATCH
For i shall expose that WHore of anti christ and
of all darkness no mat ter how loving it tries to make it broad inclusive path to GOD seem .
IT A LIAR . and its been in the garden .
One cannot cliam to BELIEVE ON JESUS and then turn around and say or even dare imply
That its just not necessary for others to do the same . ALL THEY HAVE IS THE LIE . and OH YEAH i am gonna expose it all .

 

[amigo de christo]

if means those who are saved do these works.

those who are not saved do not do these works

it does not mean do these works and you may get to heaven.. but even then, I can;t promise you because you still have to be good enough

WE gonna have to clear this one up .
IT means Those who are saved ABSOLUTELY DO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST , SON OF GOD , that GOD ressurection HIM
from the dead , and These works would follow them for CHRIST is at work within them .
But all the good works , and all the so called cliam that them unbelivers can even love their neighbor
IS ALL a pharce of anti christ .
NO FAITH IN JESUS , and it wont matter what one did or didnt do . REJECT HIM , YA DAMNED .
BELEIVE ON HIM and you are saved and THEN OF COURSE good works would follow , as it is the SPIRIT
working in us that which is well pleasing TO GOD .
WE BEEN LIED TOO .

 

[amigo de christo]

if means those who are saved do these works.

those who are not saved do not do these works

it does not mean do these works and you may get to heaven.. but even then, I can;t promise you because you still have to be good enough

DO you truly , as do a child , BELIEVE that the only way you are saved
cometh OF GOD and b y faith IN JESUS is one sav ed .
That GOD truly did ressurect him from the dead and that indeed one must CONFESS HIM BY MOUTH to b e saved .
IF so , WHY ON EARTH is anyone s it ting under ecumeincal interfaith of anti christ .
IT PREACHES UNBELEIF and A LIE . and either we BELIEVE TRUTH , OR A LIE .
BUT IT CANNOT BE BOTH .

 

[amigo de christo]

if means those who are saved do these works.

those who are not saved do not do these works

it does not mean do these works and you may get to heaven.. but even then, I can;t promise you because you still have to be good enough

Choose ye this day whom ye shall serve
whether it be GOD , CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL , HIS WORDS
or it be the gods of anti christ and its ecumeincal interfaith intererligouis dialgoue for what it promises will bring peace on earth .
AS FOR ME , I SHUN the all inclusive ecumeincal interfaith interrelgious dilagoue
AND BELEIVE ONLY GOD , THUS ONLY CHRIST , THUS HIS WORDS and later the apostels .
I KNOW GOD spoke to them . and i also know many anti christs be speaking to these today who have
bought into the unholiest of all unholies , a lie , a false love , a braod inclusive road . NOT THIS SHEEP .
I EXPOSE it and dont join hands with it .

 

[Marvelloustime]

so then , why are so many sitting under a ecumeincal whore of interfaith
that has absolutely denied the dire need to even have to believe on JESUS .
b ecause while i know that faith without works is dead
AND FULLY KNOW that works without faith in JESUS saves none .
And that can easily be proven .
LOOK at cornelious , LOOK and weep for these poor souls trapped in ecumeincalism of anti christ .
Because Cornelious had a whopping amount of good works , alms , prayers
BUT EVEN HE had to hear the gospel of JESUS CHRIST and BELIEVE to be SAVED . WEEP for them . and expose them all . I WILL
and i shall .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

taking heaven refers to salvation!

what does it mean?

I sure hear lots of crickets chirping from both you and eternally greatful . Because i f ear you all are buying into
what the inclusive god and his inclusive whore has sold to all denomiantions as well as teh false relgions .
How about that . I been watching folks . You all have far more in common
now with the inclusive ecumeincal whore than ever before . ITS ONLY politics and certain doctrines that still divide you .
BUT SOON they all will merge under the shade of the WHORE and be as one mind and one man .
That is why i be warning all sides , GET THE HECK outta anything ecumeincal right now , right now , right n ow
Right now and DO NOT look back or you gonna BUY THE LIE , if you have not already b ought it .

 

[Marvelloustime]

DO you truly , as do a child , BELIEVE that the only way you are saved
cometh OF GOD and b y faith IN JESUS is one sav ed .
That GOD truly did ressurect him from the dead and that indeed one must CONFESS HIM BY MOUTH to b e saved .
IF so , WHY ON EARTH is anyone s it ting under ecumeincal interfaith of anti christ .
IT PREACHES UNBELEIF and A LIE . and either we BELIEVE TRUTH , OR A LIE .
BUT IT CANNOT BE BOTH .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

I sure hear lots of crickets chirping from both you and eternally greatful . Because i f ear you all are buying into
what the inclusive god and his inclusive whore has sold to all denomiantions as well as teh false relgions .
How about that . I been watching folks . You all have far more in common
now with the inclusive ecumeincal whore than ever before . ITS ONLY politics and certain doctrines that still divide you .
BUT SOON they all will merge under the shade of the WHORE and be as one mind and one man .
That is why i be warning all sides , GET THE HECK outta anything ecumeincal right now , right now , right n ow
Right now and DO NOT look back or you gonna BUY THE LIE , if you have not already b ought it .

@amigo de christo

 

[faithhopecharity]

This is not baptism.

You need to get water off your thinking.

Holy spiorit baptism is what saves. Not water baptism.

Water baptism no more saves you then circumcision saved the jews

Jn 3:5 not baptism? then whats the water for?

 

[faithhopecharity]

This is not baptism.

You need to get water off your thinking.

Holy spiorit baptism is what saves. Not water baptism.

Water baptism no more saves you then circumcision saved the jews

1 per 3:20 refers to water baptism and washing!

baptism saves you!

A sacrament is the fruit of the sacrifice of Christ, an outward (visible) sign that signifies what it accomplishes inward spirituality. (invisible) grace washing away sin by the merits of the blood of Christ!

we cannot have the inward action of grace without the outward sacrament of baptism!

Washing ez 36:25-27 zech 13:1 acts 22:16 titus 3:5

Christian baptism is an outward sign of the inward action of grace, or merits of Christ’s passion, blood, and death applied to our souls!

We cannot see the inward action of grace purifying the soul, so God gave us the outward “sign” of water washing the body to indicate the inward action of grace and connected the two.

The sacraments are signs of God’s grace! The sacraments signify what they accomplish!

The grace of justification in the power of the spirit is manifested by the sign of baptism! Jn 3:5 titus 3:5 water and the Spirit!

Jesus Christ is the sign and the sacrament!

thks

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Jn 3:5 not baptism? then whats the water for?

If it was baptism jesus would have said.

what is the water?

Physical birth..

Jesus said you must be born again, it means you would have to have been born first.

That which is born of flesh is flesh (here is the water)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

1 per 3:20 refers to water baptism and washing!

baptism saves you!

A sacrament is the fruit of the sacrifice of Christ, an outward (visible) sign that signifies what it accomplishes inward spirituality. (invisible) grace washing away sin by the merits of the blood of Christ!

we cannot have the inward action of grace without the outward sacrament of baptism!

Washing ez 36:25-27 zech 13:1 acts 22:16 titus 3:5

Christian baptism is an outward sign of the inward action of grace, or merits of Christ’s passion, blood, and death applied to our souls!

We cannot see the inward action of grace purifying the soul, so God gave us the outward “sign” of water washing the body to indicate the inward action of grace and connected the two.

The sacraments are signs of God’s grace! The sacraments signify what they accomplish!

The grace of justification in the power of the spirit is manifested by the sign of baptism! Jn 3:5 titus 3:5 water and the Spirit!

Jesus Christ is the sign and the sacrament!

thks

Read it. Not the removal of filth(sin) from the flesh (our soul)

The waters of the flood was Gods judgment.. Noah was saved out of it by God.

 

[faithhopecharity]

No

they WILL bear fruit.

God changes us, we are made into new creation (eph 2: 10)

Its sad you have no faith in God to save you without your own help and to change you.

Your faith is in self. not God

to clear up the confusion we are taking after the point!

the point in a mans life whereby he receives the initial grace of justification!

Redemption: (in the large sense)
Christ accomplished the redemption / atonement apart from us.

Justification: Our acceptance of Christ's redemption.
(by faith and baptism)

Sanctification: Life of sanctifying grace, perseverance in Christ and His grace, (Jn 15:1-6) and in the deeds of righteousness, living works, the practice of the virtues, the gifts and fruits of the spirit, prayer, suffering, alms, fasting etc.

Death: in the grace of God. (Mk 13:13 mt 10:22 mt 24:13 rev 2:10)

Purification: purgation from sin and the effects of sin committed after justification.

Glorification: crowned by God.
(rom 8:17 2 tim 2:12 tev 2:10)
and
Full eternal Salvation with God forever in heavenly glory!
(the beatific vision)

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

No

they WILL bear fruit.

God changes us, we are made into new creation (eph 2: 10)

Its sad you have no faith in God to save you without your own help and to change you.

Your faith is in self. not God

three things are "eternal" faith hope and charity not faith alone!

The means of our salvation is according to the purpose of our creation!

To Know, Love, & serve God!

eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

to clear up the confusion we are taking after the point!

the point in a mans life whereby he receives the initial grace of justification!

Redemption: (in the large sense)
Christ accomplished the redemption / atonement apart from us.

Justification: Our acceptance of Christ's redemption.
(by faith and baptism)

Sanctification: Life of sanctifying grace, perseverance in Christ and His grace, (Jn 15:1-6) and in the deeds of righteousness, living works, the practice of the virtues, the gifts and fruits of the spirit, prayer, suffering, alms, fasting etc.

Death: in the grace of God. (Mk 13:13 mt 10:22 mt 24:13 rev 2:10)

Purification: purgation from sin and the effects of sin committed after justification.

Glorification: crowned by God.
(rom 8:17 2 tim 2:12 tev 2:10)
and
Full eternal Salvation with God forever in heavenly glory!
(the beatific vision)

thks

again walk away from the catholic church, or whatever form of catholic teaching you are entangled in.

It is not by my good deeds in which I am saved, but by Gods mercy.

Come to the throne of grace, or reject it. Grace and works cannot mix with the same result.. one saves. one does not. It is one or the other. not both

rom 11: 6 and if by grace, than it is no longer of works, ; otherwise grace is no longer grace.but if it is of works, then it is no longer of grace. otherwise work is no longer work

 

[Eternally Grateful]

three things are "eternal" faith hope and charity not faith alone!

The means of our salvation is according to the purpose of our creation!

To Know, Love, & serve God!

eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

faith is the substance of things hoped for. the evidence of things not seen

In the hope of eternal life, which God who can not lie. promised before time began.

If I have no hope of eternity with God. based on his promise. I have no faith. if I have no faith because I have no hope. I will never have cherity, because cherity is the byproduct of faith.

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

Our continued belief in christ is dependent on our knowledge we have eternal life. based on the hope. that God promised it to us. If I do not have this hope or this faith. I will eventually lose my belief also..

 

[mailmandan]

another try?

Three (3) enemies of our salvation!

(the world, the flesh, and the devil)

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

((faith overcomes the world))

1 John 5:4-5
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

((virtue and suffering overcomes the flesh))

1 Peter 4:1
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

mt 7:7
ask and you shall receive

mt 7:14
the narrow way leads to life

Luke 9:23
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

heb 12:4
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

phil 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

1 cor 13:13
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

mt 10:22 he who endures to the end shall be saved

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

((Resistance overcomes the devil))

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Not faith alone!

thks

You don't even understand what believers mean by faith (rightly understood) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (Romans 4;5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) You are unable to see anything beyond your Roman Catholic church indoctrination.

 

[faithhopecharity]

yes actually it is. Just like circumcision is a work.


actually yes you can. You do it every time you go swimming.. You can circumcise yourself. to.. But I would not recommend it.

Acts 2: 38 is is Paul commanding every to repent for the gift of the HS. and to be baptized because they recieved remission of sin.. The english text is lacking

Jesus told nicodemus how to be born again, No mention of water baptism. because water baptism is not required.

john 3, 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16. for God so loved the world he gave his only son that whoever believes (trusts) in him will never perish, and live forever (eternal life) for the son was not sent to judge, but that the world might be saved, he who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already

If john 3: 5 was baptism. Jesus would have said so


leave rome. They are decieved and will lead you astray

Jn 3 does say so!

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

ez 36:25-27 baptism
Jn 1 baptism
Jn 2 baptism
Jn 3 baptism
Jn 4 baptism
mk 16:16 baptism
mt 28:19 baptism
acts 2:38-39 baptism
acts 8:36-38 baptism
acts 22:16 baptism
1 cor 13:12 baptism
gal 3.27 baptism
titus 3:5 baptism
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism

the historic apostolic church always baptism, or spiritual anarchy and the tradition of men!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

yes actually it is. Just like circumcision is a work.


actually yes you can. You do it every time you go swimming.. You can circumcise yourself. to.. But I would not recommend it.

Acts 2: 38 is is Paul commanding every to repent for the gift of the HS. and to be baptized because they recieved remission of sin.. The english text is lacking

Jesus told nicodemus how to be born again, No mention of water baptism. because water baptism is not required.

john 3, 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16. for God so loved the world he gave his only son that whoever believes (trusts) in him will never perish, and live forever (eternal life) for the son was not sent to judge, but that the world might be saved, he who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already

If john 3: 5 was baptism. Jesus would have said so


leave rome. They are decieved and will lead you astray

then believe Him mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved and mt 28:19 teach (faith) all men and baptism

the novelties of the 16th century are not biblical!

where does Christ or scripture authorize a man made reformation?

the truth and the apostolic church are of divine origin and cannot be reformed by the tradition of men!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

the wage of sin is death. the gift of God is life

recieve it in faith, or keep tryign to earn it by works

the choice is yours.

the initial grace of Justification is a free gift, we must maintain it and abide in Christ Jn 15:1-6 and endure to the end to be saved mt 10:22

Jn 15:5 apart from Christ?

NOTHING!

phil 4:13 Union with Christ?

ALL THINGS!

acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

(((deeds of righteousness)))

rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

((walking refers to the performance of deeds))


Gal 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

((sowing refers to the performance of deeds))

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

((to live according to the flesh or according to Spirit refers to to the performance of deeds))

It impossible to walk, sow, or live without deeds!

The rightous walk, sow, & live by the deeds of the Spirit!

1 pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

thks