What's On your Mind! ~ Random Conversations about Anything...

[lforrest]

IDK anyone who has wolves as pets? but then we don't have wolves in NZ. We have no dangerous wildlife at all...accept perhaps possums or wild bore.

Wolves are too independent minded to be suitable pets. They will not obey your commands and will do what they want. I have read that domestic dogs behave like wolf pups that never mature to an adult.

If someone really wants to own a wolf it needs to be a hybrid. Or one of the breeds of domestic dogs that appear wolf-like.

 

[Grams]

Had a weird thing just happening this morning

The rooster is going around as always with the sound they make and at the same time the Germany Shepard is howling
and it was at first hard to figure out what was going on.

 

[Stranger]

IDK anyone who has wolves as pets? but then we don't have wolves in NZ. We have no dangerous wildlife at all...accept perhaps possums or wild bore.

Wild boars (hogs) are dangerous. They have no fear. And they are fast. I got caught out in the woods once without a gun, foolish me. Had a German Shephard and my youngest with me. The dog, about 40 feet in front of us, stirred up a group of hogs shading under a tree and in some bushes. Two huge boars, between 250 and 300 pounds, jumped up after the dog, and she was running for all she was worth. At the same instant a sow with a litter jumped out and charged me and my youngest. We didn't have time to find a tree to climb and there really wasn't one around that was the size we could climb. If I had been alone I would have been running like crazy. But my youngest was behind me. And all I could do is stare at this beast charging.

But, God was with us. The sows litter raced after her and when she was aware of them she stopped her charge as she didn't want to bring them up to us. She began running in a circle, with her head up in the air snorting, till all the litter was accounted for and behind her and then shot off to my right in another area of the woods. Not knowing where the boars were and which way they were coming back, we went to the creek where a fallen tree was at an angle enough we could run up it if we had to. We waited quite a while before heading back to the house.

If you take to the woods and you have wild hogs, you better have a gun.

Stranger

 

[Angelina]

Had a weird thing just happening this morning

The rooster is going around as always with the sound they make and at the same time the Germany Shepard is howling
and it was at first hard to figure out what was going on.

strange?

 

[Angelina]

Wild boars (hogs) are dangerous. They have no fear. And they are fast. I got caught out in the woods once without a gun, foolish me. Had a German Shephard and my youngest with me. The dog, about 40 feet in front of us, stirred up a group of hogs shading under a tree and in some bushes. Two huge boars, between 250 and 300 pounds, jumped up after the dog, and she was running for all she was worth. At the same instant a sow with a litter jumped out and charged me and my youngest. We didn't have time to find a tree to climb and there really wasn't one around that was the size we could climb. If I had been alone I would have been running like crazy. But my youngest was behind me. And all I could do is stare at this beast charging.

But, God was with us. The sows litter raced after her and when she was aware of them she stopped her charge as she didn't want to bring them up to us. She began running in a circle, with her head up in the air snorting, till all the litter was accounted for and behind her and then shot off to my right in another area of the woods. Not knowing where the boars were and which way they were coming back, we went to the creek where a fallen tree was at an angle enough we could run up it if we had to. We waited quite a while before heading back to the house.

If you take to the woods and you have wild hogs, you better have a gun.

Stranger

Indeed! I grew up in a hunting community. My dad owned 10 pig dogs. I am glad that sow changed her mind about charging. That would have been scary...

 

[Helen]

I should have something on my mind that I want to talk about...I can usually talk about anything ( so my husband says...but that's when he is flipping the remote control)
But no...my mind is totally blank today.
I think my life is shrinking....Canadians turn into hermits in the winter months...so maybe the brain goes to sleep!!

 

[Stranger]

Indeed! I grew up in a hunting community. My dad owned 10 pig dogs. I am glad that sow changed her mind about charging. That would have been scary...

It was very scary. My father and his friends used to run hounds also. That was before the wild hog population and the human population got so big.
Now you do have hunters that have dogs and go after the wild hogs. It is usually pit bulls that they use. But make no mistake, those hogs can open up the dogs belly easy with those tusks.

The wild hogs were so thick here, they put a bounty on em. I think they paid 5 dollars for every tail you brought in. And that has thinned them out quite a bit.

The one good thing about the wild hog was the meat. It is good, though some act like it is terrible. The only difference is it is a little leaner. Free food as far as I am concerned.

Stranger

 

[Job]

I never was a fan of using dogs to chase down animals. It's an unfair advantage over the animal being hunted. I feel the same way about baiting.

 

[Helen]

I never was a fan of using dogs to chase down animals. It's an unfair advantage over the animal being hunted. I feel the same way about baiting.

Totally agree. It is heartbreaking..

 

[Angelina]

I never was a fan of using dogs to chase down animals. It's an unfair advantage over the animal being hunted. I feel the same way about baiting.

Although it may not be a politically correct thing to do and I am sure that there were some who loved hunting just for the sport, most of the community that I grew up in, hunted wild boar as a source of food which was shared among the whole community.

 

[Angelina]

It was very scary. My father and his friends used to run hounds also. That was before the wild hog population and the human population got so big.
Now you do have hunters that have dogs and go after the wild hogs. It is usually pit bulls that they use. But make no mistake, those hogs can open up the dogs belly easy with those tusks.

The wild hogs were so thick here, they put a bounty on em. I think they paid 5 dollars for every tail you brought in. And that has thinned them out quite a bit.

The one good thing about the wild hog was the meat. It is good, though some act like it is terrible. The only difference is it is a little leaner. Free food as far as I am concerned.

Stranger

Wow! hunted for their tails! and yes the meat is just amazing. I totally agree.

 

[Job]

Although it may not be a politically correct thing to do and I am sure that there were some who loved hunting just for the sport, most of the community that I grew up in, hunted wild boar as a source of food which was shared among the whole community.

Hunting for food is one thing, hunting for sport is another. I don't see the sport in killing something just so it can be stuffed and hung up on the wall.

 

[Angelina]

Now you do have hunters that have dogs and go after the wild hogs. It is usually pit bulls that they use. But make no mistake, those hogs can open up the dogs belly easy with those tusks.

I have not seen anyone use pit bulls for hunting wild boar in my country. Pig dogs are used to find, bail and hold. Like the Lab x, mastiff, huntaways, terrier's, whippets, greyhound, cattle/border x etc...

 

[Stranger]

I never was a fan of using dogs to chase down animals. It's an unfair advantage over the animal being hunted. I feel the same way about baiting.

The law of the wild does not recognize fair. And it can be cruel. Wolves hunt in packs. Cyotes also. Lions also. Animals don't know about mercy. They go after the weaker not the stronger.

Now, I don't mind it in hunting, though I don't do it. But I am against any form of fighting hogs and dogs just for the sport.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

I have not seen anyone use pit bulls for hunting wild boar in my country. Pig dogs are used to find, bail and hold. Like the Lab x, mastiff, huntaways, terrier's, whippets, greyhound, cattle/border x etc...

Concerning the bounty, the tails of the hogs were brought in just as proof that you killed a hog and you had to have it to collect.

You can go to You tube and find plenty of videos on dogs verses wild hogs. I would produce it here but I don't know how to transfer it.

I'm sure the dogs yall use get the job done. And they do use other types of dogs here as well. But the pit bull is popular for it.

Stranger

 

[Angelina]

Concerning the bounty, the tails of the hogs were brought in just as proof that you killed a hog and you had to have it to collect.

You can go to You tube and find plenty of videos on dogs verses wild hogs. I would produce it here but I don't know how to transfer it.

I'm sure the dogs yall use get the job done. And they do use other types of dogs here as well. But the pit bull is popular for it.

Stranger

We had the same problem here with rabbits, possums and deer. Introduced animals into NZ caused a major pain for farmers, the native animals and fauna due to their not being any predators. So they thrived and now they are culled at times....

 

[Job]

The law of the wild does not recognize fair. And it can be cruel. Wolves hunt in packs. Cyotes also. Lions also. Animals don't know about mercy. They go after the weaker not the stronger.

Animals hunt in packs because they don't have guns.

We don't have wild boars in Minnesota, but we have bear, deer, coyotes, wolves and as of late the occasional mountain lion. I don't have a problem with hunting, it's the methods I don't like. Using dogs to tree a bear and then blowing that bear out of the tree in my opinion is not hunting. It's killing a defenseless animal just for the joy of killing it. Drawing animals in with food is another practice I don't consider hunting. They get the animal used to coming to a certain location over a period of months until season opens. Then they sit in a tree and wait for the deer or bear to come for the food that was laid out for them and then they kill it. I don't see the sport in that.

But that's just me...

 

[Stranger]

Animals hunt in packs because they don't have guns.

We don't have wild boars in Minnesota, but we have bear, deer, coyotes, wolves and as of late the occasional mountain lion. I don't have a problem with hunting, it's the methods I don't like. Using dogs to tree a bear and then blowing that bear out of the tree in my opinion is not hunting. It's killing a defenseless animal just for the joy of killing it. Drawing animals in with food is another practice I don't consider hunting. They get the animal used to coming to a certain location over a period of months until season opens. Then they sit in a tree and wait for the deer or bear to come for the food that was laid out for them and then they kill it. I don't see the sport in that.

But that's just me...

Well, animals hunt in packs because it gives them the advantage. Animals don't care about fair.

How fair is one man going against a Grizzly bear? Is that fair? No, it is almost crazy. If the bear finds you, one man, he doesn't contemplate how fair it is. He just kills you. I have no problem having a bunch of dogs going against a bear, or against anything. Those dogs are your survival.

I am not a big hunter. And I, like you, am not for feeding all year and then shooting. But, that said, what do you expect a hunter to do and be a hunter? It is not like the old days when you could track something for miles. You can't cross other peoples land. And the animal knows no boundaries. And the animals need to be thinned out.

It is not all ways about 'sport'. It is about getting rid of a bunch that need to be rid of.

Stranger.

 

[Stranger]

We had the same problem here with rabbits, possums and deer. Introduced animals into NZ caused a major pain for farmers, the native animals and fauna due to their not being any predators. So they thrived and now they are culled at times....

Yes that is always a problem. I know in Florida they have problems with the Burmese Python that was introduced there, and have had to put bounties on it just to control it. They will never get rid of it. And snake meat is edible.

And rabbits and possum and deer is edible. However, I refuse to eat a possum. I have had many tell me how to cook it, and how good it is, but I have no interest. I just haven't ever gotten that hungry. I always considered a possum as a buzzard with four legs.

That is always a big factor with me, is it edible? If it is, you can control it.

Stranger

 

[Job]

How fair is one man going against a Grizzly bear? Is that fair? No, it is almost crazy. If the bear finds you, one man, he doesn't contemplate how fair it is. He just kills you. I have no problem having a bunch of dogs going against a bear, or against anything. Those dogs are your survival.

If the sole purpose of the hunt is to bag a grizzly, then it is fair. If the hunter doesn't have the skill required to take down a grizzly on his own, he shouldn't be in the woods. If the bear takes out the dogs before the hunter is able to react, then what? What if the dogs are out chasing down one bear and another shows up behind you? Your survival should depend upon the weapon you're carrying and the skill to use it.

I am not a big hunter. And I, like you, am not for feeding all year and then shooting. But, that said, what do you expect a hunter to do and be a hunter? It is not like the old days when you could track something for miles. You can't cross other peoples land. And the animal knows no boundaries. And the animals need to be thinned out.

Then you go to places that have no boundaries. Those places do exist. Or you get permission from land owners to cross their land if need be. Or you find a well used trail and sit and wait.

Feeding an animal just so you can kill it while it's eating is not hunting.


This of course is just my opinion...