Co- Redemptrix

[BreadOfLife]

St. Teresa of Avila, is full of grace. Brimming over.
She wrote the 7 castles (or rooms) of the heart.
If she's not full of grace, I don't know who is.
Does MY church teach this?
I don't own a church.
Most do not teach this.

How do YOU know if Theresa of Avila was full of grace on earth? She certainly is NOW because she is in Heaven.
One thing for sure is that she was not Kecharitomene. Only Mary was.

 

[GodsGrace]

cool, ty! We have an amazing library system, i'll order it today! they practically bring it to my door lol, if i were invalid they would!

I ordered a brand new bible:
The New Testament: A Translation
By .... Hart.
Can't wait to get it.

 

[twinc]

twinc said: ↑
splitting hairs gets one nowhere - Jesus had Mary,s DNA - The Queen of heaven sits at her son's right hand - if you had the ability to create your mother sinless would you not - if not then Jesus like thebrest of humanity would have been sinless from His mother's womb - twinc

101G said, "please give book chapter, and verse that states that the Lord Jesus have Mary's DNA".

PCJ

Twinc said "right alongside where it states He did not have her blood - twinc


This is a classic example of how lies get started in the Church, by ignorant men who don’t know nothing about God or Nature.

PCJ

of course naturally since you are naturally holier and godlier than them - twinc

 

[aspen]

St. Teresa of Avila, is full of grace. Brimming over.
She wrote the 7 castles (or rooms) of the heart.
If she's not full of grace, I don't know who is.
Does MY church teach this?
I don't own a church.
Most do not teach this.

It is called The Interior Castle and I agree, it is definitely worth reading and studying. I would love to find a person where i live who would take me through it again.

 

[GodsGrace]

It is called The Interior Castle and I agree, it is definitely worth reading and studying. I would love to find a person where i live who would take me through it again.

Come to Italy!
I studied this with a friar.
I go every month...but we're doing history now.
He's a very quiet man, about 60, and very intelligent and spiritual.
There's about 15 of us.
I'd be happy to go thru my notes with you...
If you're interested.

 

[aspen]

Come to Italy!
I studied this with a friar.
I go every month...but we're doing history now.
He's a very quiet man, about 60, and very intelligent and spiritual.
There's about 15 of us.
I'd be happy to go thru my notes with you...
If you're interested.

Thanks for the invitation! I wish I could afford it

 

[Stranger]

so Jesus was sin from His mother's womb = if you were able to create your mother sinless would you - be convinced via google see [the Virgin Mary revealed] by Scott Hahn - twinc

Sorry, but you make no sense. Try again. Read again my post # 477 and try and respond as if you had a grasp on reality.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

First of all - let's keep this honest, shall we?
I never said that God didn't exist before Mary. That is a complete and total LIE.

Secondly, I never said that Mary created Jesus' deity. She was impregnated BY God - WITH God.
Mary gave birth to the God Man - NOT just a man.

While combating the heresy of Nestorianism, which sought to separate the 2 natures of Christ - the Council of Ephesus in 431 declared Mary "Theotokos" (God-Bearer). All YOU are doing is reiterating the Nestorian Heresy . . .

Yes, lets keep this honest. I asked you if God existed before Mary and you said no, but the Son did. See post #475. I understand now why you always call everyone a liar. It is because you lie about everything.

You said Mary was the mother of God. And she isn't. God existed long before mary was an afterthought. Are you lying agiain?

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Denial is not an intelligent response.
The verbiage speaks for itself.

"Kecharitomene" indicates a completed action with permanent result.
It is translated as, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace” - whether YOU like it or not . . .

Denial of your position is an intelligent response. You have nothing but what you want to make of it. There is nothing to indicate any sinlessness of Mary. She was affected by the original sin of Adam as everyone born of Adam, save Jesus Christ.

Stranger

 

[Richard_oti]

that's only in the catholic Bible

As @BreadOfLife already informed you: It occurs in both the TR and WH.

 

[twinc]

Sorry, but you make no sense. Try again. Read again my post # 477 and try and respond as if you had a grasp on reality.

Stranger

get with it and update - it is stated in the bible at Isaiah that we are all born in sin from our mother's womb - so this would apply to Jesus unless by special dispensation and it seems God the son allowed His mother to be born in sin that He could be born in sin - you surely have a stranger grasp on reality than most others do - twinc

 

[michaelvpardo]

Hebrews 4:15; the high priest referred to is Christ Jesus. If Jesus had sinned or been born to a nature of sin, His death could not be for the propitiation of sin and would have been meaningless. Saying that He, the Son of God, was born in sin is a heresy.

 

[bbyrd009]

Thanks for the invitation! I wish I could afford it

this is an illusion, you can go anywhere you really want to go, for free, even make money doing it. i used to race hippies to Jerusalem this way, just for fun lol, the only rule being you had to start out flat broke

 

[twinc]

Hebrews 4:15; the high priest referred to is Christ Jesus. If Jesus had sinned or been born to a nature of sin, His death could not be for the propitiation of sin and would have been meaningless. Saying that He, the Son of God, was born in sin is a heresy.

exactly so - so this is of little or no consequence to Protestants and some others - twinc

 

[bbyrd009]

As @BreadOfLife already informed you: It occurs in both the TR and WH.

the interp is still prolly whacked i guess, no matter which tranny you use. i mean it is BoL after all, c'mon

that's only in the catholic Bible

grace and sinlessness are both time-dependent, and i guess Mary sinned when she was a kid, most likely. She was mos def not sinless her entire life, or we would not need Christ. obviously.

BoL wants to forward another Savior. Let him, i say, so what

 

[aspen]

this is an illusion, you can go anywhere you really want to go, for free, even make money doing it. i used to race hippies to Jerusalem this way, just for fun lol, the only rule being you had to start out flat broke

Well, plenty of hippies were i live.....perhaps Italy is in my future

 

[bbyrd009]

Well, plenty of hippies were i live.....perhaps Italy is in my future

ships always need cooks; i finally got hip and developed a sailing resume`--just bc i like to sail--there are even online notice boards for crew needed for private yachts, etc.

Got paid $3000 once for delivering a boat where i needed to go anyway!

 

[aspen]

the interp is still prolly whacked i guess, no matter which tranny you use. i mean it is BoL after all, c'mon

grace and sinlessness are both time-dependent, and i guess Mary sinned when she was a kid, most likely. She was mos def not sinless her entire life, or we would not need Christ. obviously.

BoL wants to forward another Savior. Let him, i say, so what

To love perfectly is to be sinless....

Even if we had not sinned in the Garden we would still need Jesus to be our Savior to keep us from loving imperfectly

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, lets keep this honest. I asked you if God existed before Mary and you said no, but the Son did. See post #475. I understand now why you always call everyone a liar. It is because you lie about everything.

You said Mary was the mother of God. And she isn't. God existed long before mary was an afterthought. Are you lying agiain?

Stranger

One who lies,
believes everyone lies.

 

[GodsGrace]

To love perfectly is to be sinless....

Even if we had not sinned in the Garden we would still need Jesus to be our Savior to keep us from loving imperfectly

Are you saying that it's possible to love perfectly while here on earth?