what would the ppl giving each other gifts there rep, do you think?
666 is the name of men found at Jn 6:66 - twinc
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what would the ppl giving each other gifts there rep, do you think?
Keep thinking the way you think my friendempty, meaningless words do not account for the many different interpretations - twinc
Write the wordscompletely for me thanks.what would the ppl giving each other gifts there rep, do you think?
Yes...Are any of us "a crowd?" Should we expect to hear from Jesus (now that He lives inside us) in Parabolic Stories? Jesus came then, and now, to individuals in various ways.
What is time to God, twinc? Has God ever changed? Has God changed the ways that He speaks to men? Has He stopped speaking to men? Why would you believe that a Father would stop speaking to His children that He loves? Sometimes for someone's own God may refrain from "speaking", but is also an answer, is it not?no. no that is what He did in the days of old but now He has spoken to us through His Son[Heb 1:1] - it is important to know and note it says has spoken not speaks imho - twinc
What is time to God, twinc? Has God ever changed? Has God changed the ways that He speaks to men? Has He stopped speaking to men? Why would you believe that a Father would stop speaking to His children that He loves? Sometimes for someone's own God may refrain from "speaking", but is also an answer, is it not?
Give God the glory!
don't ask me - why don't you ask God who you claim you are on speaking terms with or even the H/S WHO SUPPOSEDLY INSPIRES YOU - but just remember by their fruits shall we know them - yes God has changed the way He speaks to men and He has told us how but most don't listen because of itching ears etc
If you disagree with me twinc, why don't you support the reason why? You say it is by their fruits they are recognized, but you avoided saying how a person tells the difference between good fruit and bad fruit. People mix up the two why? As to hearing from God, why would I not hear from Him? I am one of His sheep:
"And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice." John 10: 4.
Aren't you one of His sheep, twinc?
We agree, twinc, because I agree with what those verses say to me, but don't tell any person that he is not on the right wavelength and/or radar unless you know. If the Lord has not told you or if you do not recognize His voice speaking through them, is it not best to be careful and leave final judgment where it belongs. It is not mine and it also is not yours.hopefully yes but many are not since they clearly and blatantly walk no more with Him[Jn 6:66] - to hear His voice and know it as His for certain we must be on His wavelength and radar[Jn13:20/21:15-17] - twinc
Yes...
But, still, the apostle Paul speaks of seeing through a glass darkly until our vision is a face to face vision. This is growth in vision and/or in knowledge, is it not? Pilate asks Jesus what is truth, but who among us knows all of the truth which Jesus is? The Light is growing brighter if we are continue to ask and to seek and to knock from our hearts. There are many parables not only in scripture, but in the world of men around when God is using them to send a message to you or to me. A message without an interpreter is not much use, so we also have the Holy Ghost. People understand the parables because they trust in God rather in their own mind or the minds of others.
His Church consists of people, twinc. When they have the living Word in them and it comes out of their mouth it is still clear only to those with "ears to hear". Many in the crowds did not understand the Word of God even when Jesus Himself spoke it to them it was not give to them to hear. So it is today. No one without "ears to hear" hears, no matter how correctly a person is speaking, whether he is a member of your church or not.exactly the opposite is the case or problem - Jesus through His Church speaks clearly - it is people who are confusing and speaking and hearing in parables - twinc
His Church consists of people, twinc. When they have the living Word in them and it comes out of their mouth it is still clear only to those with "ears to hear". Many in the crowds did not understand the Word of God even when Jesus Himself spoke it to them it was not give to them to hear. So it is today. No one without "ears to hear" hears, no matter how correctly a person is speaking, whether he is a member of your church or not.
"People understand the parables????" Really? How does that work when I hear people actually saying right out loud that the parable Jesus spoke to the crowd, of Lazarus and The Rich Man was not really a parable, but a true story describing Hell?Yes...
But, still, the apostle Paul speaks of seeing through a glass darkly until our vision is a face to face vision. This is growth in vision and/or in knowledge, is it not? Pilate asks Jesus what is truth, but who among us knows all of the truth which Jesus is? The Light is growing brighter if we are continue to ask and to seek and to knock from our hearts. There are many parables not only in scripture, but in the world of men around when God is using them to send a message to you or to me. A message without an interpreter is not much use, so we also have the Holy Ghost. People understand the parables because they trust in God rather in their own mind or the minds of others.
There are many different beliefs about the Godhead...it is not a matter of life or death...to me it is just a silly sidetrack and distraction.
Jesus says I didn't come for the that can see. For the blind. That's why I'm here for open eyes of you, aslong people used the word christian, I have to shown them their good beliefs and wrong believed. Christians mean follow Jesus teachings, no man teachings who put date and years for Jesus coming.
In other words, you don't care what we believe or why we believe it; you are here to preach on your soap box, not engage in discussions and dialogue. How refreshing and unique.
It is not a point I can discuss further with you twinc. You are in great part still stuck in the rut made by Catholicism. I was in it too long myself not to appreciate how deep it is and how hard it is to come out of... I will be praying for you. Only God gives anyone the increase that is needed.that is what is wrong - they are being wrongly taught and have accepted that they hear with their ears not aware that hearing must be done by a deeper inner self through their ears - to see this it takes eyes to see that see not and ears to hear that hear not - twinc
There are people on both sides of that question if you have never heard it being discussed on forums. Some say it is literal while other say it is a parable."People understand the parables????" Really? How does that work when I hear people actually saying right out loud that the parable Jesus spoke to the crowd, of Lazarus and The Rich Man was not really a parable, but a true story describing Hell?