Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist


In this recording, I review related verses in the Holy Bible (ESV)
 

Nancy

Well-Known Member
Apr 30, 2018
16,761
25,324
113
Buffalo, Ny
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Most biblical verses on the subject confirm the second death kills the soul. So then Annihilation is the way to go.

There is only one verse that suggests an ongoing torment in hell....for the worshipers of the beast.
Something to think on and...study. The soul after all IS the complete essence our being. Yes? No?
 

Helen

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2011
15,476
21,155
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
This thread is way off in the left field.

What on earth kind of God is that?

" You MUST love your enemies..."
"But I will torment Mine..... for ever and ever!!! "

....a3150ac41bd3333687ba8209f7184eff.jpg
 
Last edited:

Helen

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2011
15,476
21,155
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
They say miserly loves company.

Im glad that you quoted my post...I just saw my "dyslexic " error!
( Love must your enemies...) :oops:

Should have read- " You must love your enemies..but 'I' will torment Mine..forever and ever ..." :rolleyes:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

lforrest

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Admin
Aug 10, 2012
5,546
6,793
113
Faith
Christian
Im glad that you quoted my post...I just saw my "dyslexic " error!
( Love must your enemies...) :oops:

Should have read- " You must love your enemies..but 'I' will torment Mine..forever and ever ..." :rolleyes:

Figured that's what you meant.
 

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Most biblical verses on the subject confirm the second death kills the soul. So then Annihilation is the way to go.

There is only one verse that suggests an ongoing torment in hell....for the worshipers of the beast.
In my review of dozens of verses, see my original post, I show that your statements are false. Hell is eternal.
 

Episkopos

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2011
12,798
19,242
113
65
Montreal
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
In my review of dozens of verses, see my original post, I show that your statements are false. Hell is eternal.

Of course hell is eternal. But the people in it are dead. Try to stay honest in the discussion. Don't play word games.....and you might learn the truth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truth

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Im glad that you quoted my post...I just saw my "dyslexic " error!
( Love must your enemies...) :oops:

Should have read- " You must love your enemies..but 'I' will torment Mine..forever and ever ..." :rolleyes:
It is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."
The Lord will have all of eternity to exact His vengeance on the souls burning in eternal fire.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LC627

Episkopos

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2011
12,798
19,242
113
65
Montreal
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
It is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."
The Lord will have all of eternity to exact His vengeance on the souls burning in eternal fire.


I think you are looking for vengeance...and trying to make God out to be sadistic. We tend to read our own understanding into the word.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Of course hell is eternal. But the people in it are dead. Try to stay honest in the discussion. Don't play word games.....and you might learn the truth.
I have presented the truth in my recording - see my original post.
Holy Bible - Matthew 13:42 (ESV)
"and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Those in eternal fire will be punished, tormented or tortured. There will be no annihilation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LC627

Episkopos

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2011
12,798
19,242
113
65
Montreal
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
I have presented the truth in my recording - see my original post.
Holy Bible - Matthew 13:42 (ESV)
"and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Those in eternal fire will be punished, tormented or tortured. There will be no annihilation.

Do you know why it is called "the second death?"

Don't fear men who kill the body...but God who kills both body AND soul in hell.

Do men torment your body forever? ....neither does God.
 

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I think you are looking for vengeance...and trying to make God out to be sadistic. We tend to read our own understanding into the word.
The word of God is very clear in this matter, as I have explained in my review of dozens of verses - see my original post.

You have chosen to present lies. And to correct one of your lies, God is not sadistic for choosing not to annihilate. God is sovereign and just.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LC627

Episkopos

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2011
12,798
19,242
113
65
Montreal
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
The word of God is very clear in this matter, as I have explained in my review of dozens of verses - see my original post.

You have chosen to present lies. And to correct one of your lies, God is not sadistic for choosing not to annihilate. God is sovereign and just.


You are presenting an opinion. And a mighty skewed opinion at that. The corpses of the rebellious will not decompose as a reminder...for ever. Their worm shall not die...but they did.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Alert

Member
Sep 20, 2018
52
4
8
64
Southern California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Do you know why it is called "the second death?"

Don't fear men who kill the body...but God who kills both body AND soul in hell.

Do men torment your body forever? ....neither does God.
Do you know why there is a second death? Because the first death is not annihilation. Neither is the second death.
It is written, "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched".
Those in hell will experience eternity with a small tormenting creature in eternal fire.
 

Enoch111

Well-Known Member
May 27, 2018
17,688
15,996
113
Alberta
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
It is written, "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched".
Those in hell will experience eternity with a small tormenting creature in eternal fire.
You can show Annihilationists a hundred Scripture but that is of no consequence at all. That's the nature of wilful blindness.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LC627