Can a Christian be a Democrat?

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Nancy

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On the other hand, if abortion is correctly called "murder of the unborn" and carries a death penalty, that would change the entire attitude to this form of infanticide/genocide. Sadly, the Western world caved to Satanic forces and legalized murder.
Indeed! I am guessing that would most surely cut these murders at least in half...who knows.
 

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I'm glad to hear that you're not pro-abortion. But we don't make something legal that is so totally immoral because "people are going to do it anyway!" Like Enoch said, we could say the same for any kind of murder. Why outlaw any kind of killing or rape or theft... because we think that people are going to do it anyway, so we need to provide a safe, legal way to do it so they don't get hurt?

Legal abortions aren't safe at all! Do you think that "doctors" who snuff out the lives of innocent babies care at all for the health of the women they take advantage of? Some of these "clinics" are cesspools of germs. Some clinic workers have turned against abortion because they've seen how badly women are treated.

It's a culture of death--for the babies and the women!
Yes, I do understand this. And, Enoch brought up something that should have been the law all along-press charges for murder in the 1st. Perhaps that would at least save some lives.
 

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Yes, I do understand this. And, Enoch brought up something that should have been the law all along-press charges for murder in the 1st. Perhaps that would at least save some lives.
I thought you would be offended by what Enoch said about this.... I was waiting to see. Please understand that it's not my intent to offend you. There are a few issues I feel very passionate about, and this is one of them.

God Bless! Deborah
 
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I thought you would be offended by what Enoch said about this.... I was waiting to see. Please understand that it's not my intent to offend you. There are a few issues I feel very passionate about, and this is one of them.

God Bless! Deborah
Not at all a problem. ♥
 

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Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House/ Gary Aldrich
This book tells some of the ungodly practices of Hilary, we had just 2 choices..
Us that voted for Trump hope we got the least of 2 evils. Never vote dem..never ever ever
Oh, and then there's this: ISAIAH 32:5-11
I'm sorry limited data keeps me from typing it out.. but when I read it, I got chills, how relevant it seems today.
I'm pro-choice, but I cannot get over gay marriage.. and then the pope said it was ok.. the end is near, its just going to get worse.
 

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We Americans have no more control of the evil practices our government is involved in, just as Christians have no controll of when Yahushua returns.
 

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Can't agree here, sorry. Even after 40 years a Christian, I still fall from time to time...use to be a regular feature of my Christian lifestyle until the Lord led me in the way of overcoming. But I still fail, albeit less frequently than previously, praise God. Which scenario do you believe God wants to happen? Me sinning constantly all my Christian life, or me overcoming? One happens, which clearly He doesn't want to happen, or He wouldn't have provided a way of escape.
I think this applies to many areas of life. Stuff happens which He hates...but must tolerate for the sake of freedom of conscience and self will. Not that this means He has relinquished His authority and power to rule. He has not abdicated, nor will He. But let it not be said that He wants war, the untimely death of His saints, or anything else that may impede the establishment of HIs spiritual kingdom.
Nor yet ought we claim God wants abortion, just because it does happen.
I see @Reggie Belafonte is having a problem with my comment too.

Is God sovereign?
Does God hold up the universe and everything in it?
So do you suppose something happens that God does NOT want to happen?

Let me explain it this way...
God ALLOWS things to happen. He could stop us from sinning IF HE WANTED TO.
But He doesn't because of our free will.

Reconciling what God wants (His sovereignty) with our free will is one of the most difficult concepts to understand in our faith. So I won't try to explain it.

I do agree with all you've said, BTW.
 
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What like WW2, your god wanted that and all hey ? what if I could inform you of the men who created it and all are and not one of them believes in God.

God always gets his way ? why did he send Jesus then for or the prophets hey. or why did God wipe out the evil with the flood.

God wins in the end always but the way people are mislead is not his ways.
See my post no. 107.
And, I might add this:
Even satan couldn't work if God did not allow it.
 

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For: It is written..
no matter what we do, HIS will be done. Unforetunately for the world today, but GLORIOUSLY for believers in Christ. AMEN Scarey to be both, for after all we are only human. I weep for my country, despair for my grand-children... even so, come, Lord Jesus
You know Acolyte, I feel as you do. The only comfort I have is knowing that every generation has felt this way. My grandmother used to say how sorry she was that her niece is growing up in this world. That was back in the 60's.

Now, today, that niece is feeling sorry that HER granddaughter has to grow up in this world.

I remember one day I was out with my 1 year old son and my neighbor told me she was sorry I had to raise him "in this world". That was back in 1970. I'll never forget it.

So, here's what I've figured out.
WE are pretty miserable because we see the change from when we were little; we see the Brave New World.

Our grandchildren don't see the change! To them this IS the world.

Today's lamented modern ways,
Will be tomorrow's good ole' days.
(not mine)
 

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HIS will be done. Unforetunately for the world today, but GLORIOUSLY for believers in Christ.
I weep for my country, despair for my grand-children
one of these things
is not like the other
one of these things
just doesn't beloooong...
now can you guess which thing
is not like the other
something something finish this song
 

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We Americans have no more control of the evil practices our government is involved in, just as Christians have no controll of when Yahushua returns.
um wow, you don't think?
Could you Quote this "Yahu returns" real quick, and maybe we could see.
ps and i mean "return" in the orig language, not in English ok
so iow shuvu in Hebrew, hupostrepho in Greek, i can dig the Aramaic up
or i mean Quote return in English and we'll go from there if you like
 
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Feel free to enlighten me, just don't judge me. I am studying and open. I cannot just quote scripture, all I know is, j was the last letter added to the english alphebet, jesus and jehovah are not the names.. over and over HE says know HIS name.. call His name. Wouldnt want to be spit out.. if you know, please share
 
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Feel free to enlighten me, just don't judge me. I am studying and open. I cannot just quote scripture, all I know is, j was the last letter added to the english alphebet, jesus and jehovah are not the names.. over and over HE says know HIS name.. call His name. Wouldnt want to be spit out.. if you know, please share
oh not judging at all ok, i heard Jesus was returning my whole life too, in fact ask anyone in the world what the Christian premise is and they will say that i guess right

when you go look for a Returning the only one i can find is
3Return to Me, and I will return to you
7Return to Me, and I will return to you

but here is a Bsearch for "return"
Bible Search: return
we can look at any that strike you, note how many of those "returns" in English do not translate from the Lex though, for example, um, "if I want him to tarry until i return..." John 21:22 Lexicon: Jesus said to him, "If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!", so, an obv mistranslation iow--hence the duelling trannies there--we know the Koine Greek term for "return" already
 
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I am stumped as to why that particular word means anything.. other than coming back. As I said before, my quest is to know HIS name.. a definate stumbling block imo. I would start a thread on it, but I don't wish to offend anyone. We all have to follow where Spirit leads and that is where he is telling me to go. I would send this direct to you, but I don't know how, rather than this forum.
 
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I am stumped as to why that particular word means anything.. other than coming back. As I said before, my quest is to know HIS name.. a definate stumbling block imo. I would start a thread on it, but I don't wish to offend anyone. We all have to follow where Spirit leads and that is where he is telling me to go. I would send this direct to you, but I don't know how, rather than this forum.
ah, you just hit "reply" there on the lower right of any post you wanna reply to, or you can highlight a snippet of a post and get a "reply" option too. If you want to insert multiple quotes from diff posts or snips just hit "quote" instead of "reply," and you'll see a button for inserting quotes below the edit window
I am stumped as to why that particular word means anything.. other than coming back.
i agree, coming back would = returning, and you can't Quote either one
I would start a thread on it, but I don't wish to offend anyone.
hey, someone will be offended by you not starting the thread anyway i guess :)
how do you offend a Christian anyway?
We all have to follow where Spirit leads
um...hmm are you sure?
As I said before, my quest is to know HIS name.. a definate stumbling block imo.
believe it or not saying "Jesus of Nazareth" in 0AD would be understood more like "John Doe from Nowhere" would be today, which prolly sounds sacreligious or something at first but it really ends up being a great lesson imo
 
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I already said I can't quote scripture, not that I'm ignorant of it, just I know what I've read and I have to search to prove so. So are you saying He goes by whatever we call him?
Or implying it doesn't matter?
Prov30:4 Isa42:8/65:11 Psalm9:10/83:18/135:13 1Kings18:21 Jer23:26-27 this one for sure
 

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I already said I can't quote scripture, not that I'm ignorant of it, just I know what I've read and I have to search to prove so.
ah ok, fwiw if you can recall a keyword a Bsearch engine will lead you to the v, google usually does even better with approximate phrases though
So are you saying He goes by whatever we call him?
Or implying it doesn't matter?
well, neither, although i guess i agree with both. I just meant to say that "Jesus of Nazareth" has a quite diff ring to us than it did to them, Jesus (Joshua, most likely) was as common as John is now, and Christ was the title carried by every Roman and Jewish king. So really a play on words is intended, that a contemporary audience would have got right away
 

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Jer23:26-27 this one for sure
27Through their dreams that they tell one another, they plan to cause My people to forget My name as their fathers forgot My name through Baal worship.

hopefully it is apparent that they did not literally forget any names there right, a spiritual forgetting is being inferred imo

and pls hit the reply button at the bottom right to reply if you would have me reply to your reply anyway, ty. otherwise i don't get a "tag," a um, 'notice' i guess they call it here. an alert, the thingy that told you that you had mail just now :)

but i guess God has many, many Names, there is folklore somewhere that says it would take 969 years for a man to say them all...
 
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Feel free to enlighten me, just don't judge me. I am studying and open. I cannot just quote scripture, all I know is, j was the last letter added to the english alphebet, jesus and jehovah are not the names.. over and over HE says know HIS name.. call His name. Wouldnt want to be spit out.. if you know, please share
Easy my friend. God is the fairest being you will ever encounter. The ones to be spit out are those who work hard to walk in the middle of the road, neither for the ways of men alone nor for the Way of God alone. This is the lukewarm, fence walking bunch:

Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.


Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.


There are people who say they know Him and will say, Jesus or God or something else from scripture, but is that knowing His name? Is knowing what He was called in the original languages knowing His name. This is just a taste, but let us not pursue it here. I will start a new thread just per your request here:

His Name
 
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