ha, Jesus was not, He is the proxy. Iow you will not find "I was slain from the foundation of the world" anywhere. Jesus was "slain" when some Sanhedrin decided to try to kill Him, not realizing that He gave His life willingly
if i say that it is "right now," is that a part of time? what time is that? Is "right now" a time? Sort of yes, but maybe no, right
iow time can also be considered to be a construct, an artificial index that we measure a "day" by. See, we forget that when we were little kids hearing someone say "what time is it?" reminded us that they were insane, see
Your dilemma is revealed by your own words.
First you reject what the Word says. Then you reveal WHY. (Which always lands on lack of Trusting the Word is True, and lack of Understanding)....Looking for Gods word, according to "your words", is a fail.
Basic knowledge, God speaks His word for Himself, according to Himself. Not according to what men think He should have said.
Jesus IS BEFORE ALL THINGS.
By Him ALL things consist.
Col 1:17
Jesus IS the WORD of God.
John 1:1
Basic reading reveals NOTHING is created or made, WITHOUT Gods, thought, word, power.
Basic reading reveals God IS without beginning or ending.
Basic reading reveals NOTHING existed BEFORE God created or made it.
Basic reading reveals Jesus IS:
The Word, the Lamb, the Power, of God.
Heavenly Morning Stars, revealed, observing the the creation.
Basic reading reveals Gods thoughts are within HIM, Gods word is within Him, Gods power is within Him....and
Gods thoughts, word, power comes forth OUT from God to cause and effect His desires and pleasures be accomplished.
Yes, the Lamb WAS SLAIN, Before, as, during...the foundation of the World (Earth).
Rev 13:8
Observation of the Earth being Created.
Job 38: 4, 5, 6, 7
Thee Heavenly Morning Stars....
The Word of God, (Jesus)...
A Created Holy Angel, called Lucifer...
A revealed BRIGHT Morning Star, (Jesus)
Rev 22:16
A Morning Star (Lucifer) revealed
Isa 14:12
WHO KILLED the WORD of GOD (Jesus).
Isa 14:13
Isa 14:14
When?
John 8:44
His consequence?
Cast DOWN to Earth, out of His FIRST Heavenly Estate.
Loss of his Brightness, his Estate, his Truth, his Holiness, his Name, his Titles, his Integrity, his Honor, his Trustworthiness, his God with him, and he with his God.
(but not his power).
More consequences also revealed.
Basic and brief, and in opposition to what you are promoting.
Glory to God,
Taken