WHY ARE MANY OF US STILL HERE?

[Trekson]

They placed a gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks moving the 70th week thousands of years into the future,

Actually, history did this because if a prophecy isn't 100% fulfilled, it is 0% fulfilled.

 

[Waiting on him]

Acts 17:24
[24] God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

I’ve been meditating on this brother Marks is the tithe God gives the increase. This is why he says no scripture is of a private interpretation. Many men read scripture in a self centered point of view, when God says the body is the temple of God they only perceive it as applying to there individual body. If we put Christ into the center of this scripture we see he is referring to the collective body fit together. If there’s leven we cast it out to form a new lump. Marks is the tithe. Gods storehouse is well stocked inexhaustible in fact.

 

[Jay Ross]

Who here skips entire posts bc they do not like the implications is surely more relevant wadr

I skip pages of posts because there are to many to get your head around that are posted while I am soundly tucked up in bed. I go to the last page and skim them to see if I can pick up the thread of what is being posted. Usually it is the same repackaged garbage.

 

[marks]

Acts 17:24
[24] God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

But how does this change the Law given by the Lord of heaven and earth?

 

[marks]

Your food is on the alter

I'm talking about the Biblical law of tithing. Where is that? Why don't the Lawkeepers keep that? Or all the other laws disregarded?

 

[Waiting on him]

I'm talking about the Biblical law of tithing. Where is that? Why don't the Lawkeepers keep that? Or all the other laws disregarded?

I just showed you. What’s on the alter is the unleavened body of Christ. Inexhaustible!

 

[marks]

I’ve been meditating on this brother Marks is the tithe God gives the increase. This is why he says no scripture is of a private interpretation. Many men read scripture in a self centered point of view, when God says the body is the temple of God they only perceive it as applying to there individual body. If we put Christ into the center of this scripture we see he is referring to the collective body fit together. If there’s leven we cast it out to form a new lump. Marks is the tithe. Gods storehouse is well stocked inexhaustible in fact.

I'm sorry, I don't really understand what is being said here.

Malachi 3:8-10
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

If we are to keep the Law as given by God in the covenant made between God and the Israelites at Mount Horeb, then we need to keep the various laws of tithes and offerings.

Here it says the people are to bring food into the storehouse, so that there is food stored there. He says that if the people do this, they will be prosperous they won't have room to store all their crops.

Do you rob God? Or do you re-define this law into some other that what He said? But wouldn't that be robbing God just the same?

What if you went to court for something, were convicted, and sentenced to community service. The judge orders you to clean a highway shoulder for the next 30 days. So you spend the next 30 days cleaning your driveway. When the judge reviews your case, he accuses you, "I ordered you to clean this highway shoulder, yet you have not. You reply, I wasn't really able to clean the highway, since the bus doesn't stop there so I cleaned my driveway instead. Will that satisfy?

Much love!
Mark

 

[marks]

I just showed you. What’s on the alter is the unleavened body of Christ. Inexhaustible!

But what does this have to do with the legal requirement to tithe?

 

[marks]

when God says the body is the temple of God they only perceive it as applying to there individual body.

Just an aside . . .

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye (plural) are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye (plural) are.

The plural pronouns show the corporate nature of God's living temple.

We need to be careful readers, taking seriously everything that is said, not inadvertantly undermining God's Word.

Much love!

 

[ScottA]

The two most popular beliefs in the church today are seemingly not really believed by anyone. When heard proclaimed from the pulpit, they are met with a hearty "AMEN!", but that is as far as belief in them goes. They are:

"We don't have to obey the Ten Commandments".
"When we die, we go straight to heaven."

So, my question to those who claim to believe these two is "why are you still here"? If I can break the sixth commandment and kill myself and go straight to heaven to be with Jesus, why would I spend another day down here?

The answer is obvious: people don't really believe we are at liberty to break the Ten Commandments and people are really unsure about their standing with Christ, no matter how much they claim to be "more than conquerors".

The solution is this: make a FULL SURRENDER TO CHRIST, thank Him for each day He wakes you up, and ask Him "what is Thy bidding, Thou wonderful, merciful Savior, blessed Redeemer and Friend?" This life will soon be over and the only thing we'll carry with us to the Judgment Seat of Christ is our character, either molded into Christ's image by the Potter or dried up, cracked, disfigured, and worthy of only the burn pile.

Your reaction to the lukewarm, disregard by many is understandable...but be careful not to heap on too heavy a burden. His burden is light. It is Christ Jesus alone who is able to fulfill and to carry the full burden of condemnation that God has put upon the fallen world. We can do nothing.

The Ten Commandments simply point us to Christ, while giving us words to live by. But they do not save, nor can we keep them. Christ has kept them, in whom we also keep them, for we are "in him", "One." Therefore, do not tell Christ in us to keep a standard He himself has made and also kept already. It is finished.

As for dying and going straight to heaven..."the kingdom of heaven is within you." Therefore, if we have died outwardly, meaning to the world, we have entered already. If we have not died outwardly or do not until the flesh returns to the dust, in the end we shall see Him, for "we shall be like Him" (in His kingdom, in heaven).

 

[marks]

I love this question about the tithe.

It's impossible to answer. Nowhere does Scripture "re-assign" tithing. It's integral to the OT Law, it cannot be done now in the way that the Law requires. Nowhere does the Bible redefine tithing.

Jesus even said of those you counted out their fennel seeds that they should in fact be doing that.

It's not abrogated. It's not modified. Well, except by those who say we need to keep the Law. Then it must be rewritten because, again, it's impossible to do in the way God specified.

So what's up with that?

To any who claim the Law is modified, I'll ask for the Scripture reference. I've heard so many arguments supporting that view, but I've never seen that actually in the Bible. Maybe you can be the first!

Much love!
Mark

 

[Waiting on him]

But what does this have to do with the legal requirement to tithe?

It’s paid in full

 

[marks]

This is why he says no scripture is of a private interpretation.

I think Young's Literal Translation carries the meaning on this passage, not that "people can't just make up their own interpretation of prophecy", rather, no prophecy came from the prophet's own understanding. A number of translations put it this way, YLT, ESV, Holman, NLT,

YLT:
this first knowing, that no prophecy of the Writing doth come of private exposition,

J.P. Green puts it this way:
"knowing this first, that every prophecy of Scripture did not come into being of its own interpretation;"

FWIW . . .

 

[Waiting on him]

Just an aside . . .

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye (plural) are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye (plural) are.

The plural pronouns show the corporate nature of God's living temple.

We need to be careful readers, taking seriously everything that is said, not inadvertantly undermining God's Word.

Much love!

If anyone wishes to be an island then there’s nothing I can do about that. I’d rather be Christ centered and there’s nothing anyone can do about that.

 

[Phoneman777]

Hi Phoneman,

When have I ever said that?

This is one of the ways God improves us, by exposing us to opportunities to sin. We are to look for the righteousness that He calls us towards, the outworking of the temptation, the escape, the distant shore, that end He had in mind.

We're to be happy when we are tested/tempted, because this builds patience, and makes us complete.

So when the temptation comes, we look at what God wants, and do that.



In Christ alone, not be works of law.

Much love!
mark

So, I'm confused. Are they Ten Commandments or Ten Suggestions? Are we free to break them or obligated to keep them?

 

[marks]

It’s paid in full

So then the law has been fulfilled by Jesus, and I no longer have to keep it. It's paid in full.

Much love,
Mark

 

[Waiting on him]

I think Young's Literal Translation carries the meaning on this passage, not that "people can't just make up their own interpretation of prophecy", rather, no prophecy came from the prophet's own understanding. A number of translations put it this way, YLT, ESV, Holman, NLT,

YLT:
this first knowing, that no prophecy of the Writing doth come of private exposition,

J.P. Green puts it this way:
"knowing this first, that every prophecy of Scripture did not come into being of its own interpretation;"

FWIW . . .

Maybe JP Was an island

 

[Waiting on him]

So then the law has been fulfilled by Jesus, and I no longer have to keep it. It's paid in full.

Much love,
Mark

We establish it

 

[marks]

If anyone wishes to be an island then there’s nothing I can do about that. I’d rather be Christ centered and there’s nothing anyone can do about that.

Not sure what you mean here. If we've trusting in Christ and are born again, than we are not alone, we are united to Him and united to each other.

Much love!
mark

 

[marks]

Maybe JP Was an island

??

I think he was translating.