The Sixth Seal: The next Prophesied event

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Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

If we can't believe the first verse, why bother reading the rest of the book?
As I said; the disasters described in the first five seals happened after Jesus Ascended to heaven and was found worthy to remove the Seals. Those Seals were opened then, proved by the Fifth Seal, the souls of the martyrs are kept under the Altar in heaven and Jesus will bring them back with Him and resurrect them. Revelation 20:4
Where else did Stephens soul go? Acts 7:56-60 And all the Christians killed by lions and other horrible deaths.

It seems that some here just cannot handle the idea that they may have to face trials and testing. Tough!
 

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An Explanation of the Sixth Seal:
Revelation 6:12-17;

I watched as the Lamb broke the Sixth Seal, – At this moment a Coronal Mass Ejection will explode out from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 23:19 Triggered by the attack onto Israel, as per Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 50:1-3, 2 Peter 3:7

There was a violent earthquake – The microwave effect of the short wave spectrum penetrates the earth’s crust, triggering worldwide earthquakes. Haggai 2:6, Deuteronomy 32:22, Isaiah 26:18-20, Amos 8:8-9, Psalms 18:7

The sun turned black as a funeral pall – Acts 2:20 The approaching mass of the CME will obscure the sun. Joel 2:31, Amos 5:20

The moon became a red as blood – Joel 2:31 The superheated hydrogen plasma strikes the moon and causes a thermoluminescent reaction with the metallic oxides of the moon dust. As well as: the bright red reflection of the initial flash. Isaiah 30:26a

The stars in the sky fell like ripe figs – All our satellites crash to earth, this is a known effect of the pressure wave of a CME. Isaiah 34:4, Isaiah 28:2

The sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up – Our magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun are pushed aside by this multi billion ton pressure wave of superheated hydrogen plasma. Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:7 & 10, Isaiah 51:6

Every mountain and island moved from their place – Tectonic plate movement caused by the microwave effect. Deuteronomy 32:22, Jeremiah 4:23-24, Habakkuk 3:6, Isaiah 13:13 Also may cause a magnetic pole reversal.

Everyone from high to lowly hid themselves – every person on earth will be terrified by what is coming and they scramble for cover. Ezekiel 7:15-19, Zephaniah 1:3 & 11, Luke 21:25-26

They called out: Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb – People will dive for cover and most will survive, as they see this disaster approaching. The main mass of a CME will take 24 - 36 hours to arrive on earth. Isaiah 2:19, Isaiah 28:21-22, Jeremiah 25:38, Luke 23:30

For the great Day of the Lord has come and who can stand? Deuteronomy 32:22, Ezekiel 7:7, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Joel 1:15.

This is the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, it is this terrible event that enables the establishment of a One World Government. But those who took heed of the warnings, Isaiah 26:20-21, took shelter and at the same time called to the Lord for protection, Acts 2:21, 1 Peter 1:5, Psalms 68:1-3, Joel 2:32 & 3:16 and will receive the great blessings the Lord has for His faithful Christian people.
 

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Isaiah 13:12-13 I shall make humans scarcer than fine gold...… I shall make the heavens and the earth shake and shudder and the earth will move out of her place, at the wrath of the Lord of Hosts, in the Day of His blazing anger.
This prophecy tells about actual humans, actual heavens and earth, a real dislocation of the earth and a forthcoming Day when the Lord will arise and strike the world with fire. Isaiah 33:10-12, Psalms 7:6 & 12-16, +

Symbolic? Even if it was, it is surely talking about a dramatic event; far more that a fall of empires.

Movie? Even Nicholas Cage might pass on this one; too hot for him to handle.

We might agree to disagree on this one. Although...I do agree that just before the return of Christ we might expect to see an increase in literal cataclysmic events. The most extreme, I believe, will be almost instantaneous before his arrival, given the nature of them.

Nicolas Cage....you know...don't knock him. Some of my favourite end of the world movies have him in it! I especially like "Knowing"...probably because it has Christian motif's sprinkled all the way through it!!
 

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Those things are natural occurrence's, of no prophetic importance whatsoever.

Says who, the powers that be can explain anything away with science.

What makes you so sure, are you waiting for actual blood to flood the waters?
 

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As I said; the disasters described in the first five seals happened after Jesus Ascended to heaven and was found worthy to remove the Seals. Those Seals were opened then, proved by the Fifth Seal, the souls of the martyrs are kept under the Altar in heaven and Jesus will bring them back with Him and resurrect them. Revelation 20:4
I am asking you your views on Revelation 1:1. I'm still wondering why you don't accept it as written. If you can accept the first five seals happened "shortly" after John wrote, why do you think the rest of the things in the book also did not?
Where else did Stephens soul go? Acts 7:56-60 And all the Christians killed by lions and other horrible deaths.
I'm still waiting for your take on the first verse.
It seems that some here just cannot handle the idea that they may have to face trials and testing. Tough!
Please don't make comments like that when you don't know what I believe. Please don't try to read my mind.
 

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The next Prophesied event that the world will experience will be the Sixth Seal. Revelation 6:12-17 Proved by how the first Five Seals were opened at Jesus’ Ascent to heaven. Revelation 6:1-11 All those things have happened, we have experienced wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters aplenty. Any more of those and humankind would have been wiped out.
The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, of cosmic and earthly events; graphically prophesied in the Bible over 100 times, will cause the earth to shudder and shake, and move out of her place....Isaiah 13:13, Isaiah 24:19-20, Revelation 6:14

It will be just a one Day event, as the Coronal Mass Ejection explosion of the suns surface, that the Lord will instigate, Isaiah 30:26a, Psalms 50:1-3, Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7, will quickly pass; travelling at 3.5 million mph. But the strike onto the earth of a multi billion ton mass, of superheated Hydrogen plasma, will literally cause all the prophesied effects of the virtual depopulation of all the Middle East region, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Isaiah 13:9, Isaiah 66:17, and worldwide devastation.
It won't affect the daily rotation of the earth, ask any scientist to tell you how totally destructive a sudden change to the earths spin would be.

What it will do is speed up the earth’s orbit by pushing the earth as it moves now at 66,000 mph on its orbital track. Just imagine it; a mass approaching a fast moving object, some may initially hit direct, then the main mass; pressing on the trailing side. This will speed up our 365.24 day year to a 360 day year.
Making the time periods as given by Daniel and Revelation fit exactly!

Regarding the darkness on that Day: Amos 5:18-20, Joel 2:31,
The sun will be obscured by the approaching mass, then when it has passed, there will be smoke and ash clouds for possibly months. Isaiah 60:2


The effects of the earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. plus the moon shining bright red and the earths atmosphere being pushed aside, are what a massive CME can and will cause.

Because this will be a seemingly natural disaster, those who disbelieve in God, will continue in their disbelief and when the Leader of the One World Govt demands worship of him, they will be happy to do so. Revelation 13:8

I hope you're right. I have not studied Revelations in depth - I just began. But I do not like what is happening in this country/ world and feel like Habakuk.

I know that "the big one" they keep talking about is predicted to hit California - but do you see something other than an earthquake happening? I never heard about anything that will "speed up the earth's orbit."
 
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It is you who is trying to introduce an error where none exists, while failing to inform the reader that seismos can mean several things, depending on the context. And then presenting an erroneous meaning.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 4578: σεισμός (seismos)

σεισμός, σεισμοῦ, ὁ (σείω), a shaking, a commotions: ἐν τῇ θαλάσσῃ, a tempest, Matthew 8:24; as often in Greek writings from (Herodotus 4, 28),Sophocles, Aristophanes down, pre-eminently an earthquake: Matthew 24:7; Matthew 27:54; Matthew 28:2; Mark 13:8; Luke 21:11; Acts 16:26; Revelation 6:12;Revelation 8:5; Revelation 11:13, 19; Revelation 16:15; the Sept. for רַעַשׁ.

So Thayer's has correctly pointed out that in the Olivet discourse, as well as in Revelation 6 and 11, it is actual earthquakes [bolded references above], and NOT turmoil or commotion (which would be ABSURD).

All that is described in Revelation 6 and in the Olivet Discourse pertains to actual LITERAL cataclysmic supernatural disasters brought about by God.

Do you think the earthquakes spoken of will be the one predicted to hit California?
 

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Here's the proof that they are an exact match.
REVELATION 6
(4) And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. [MAXIMUM DETAIL]

OLIVET DISCOURSE
(3) and the stars shall fall from heaven... And the stars of heaven shall fall...and in the stars [MINIMUM DETAIL]

Do you really think that there could not be slight differences in how things are described? The sun, moon, stars, and the heavens are all represented in both. There are additional details here and there (which is to be expected).
I have wondered if these things haven't started happening already, awhile back the seas in Florida turned red as blood, and all the sea life washing up dead, does anyone remember this happening?

That is part of the seven seals, the seas turning red as blood and all the life in it washing up dead.

Yes it was some kind of 'red tide' - an algae.

We watched one of the "blood moons" and I read where some pastors said that they were prophesied.
 

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I am asking you your views on Revelation 1:1. I'm still wondering why you don't accept it as written. If you can accept the first five seals happened "shortly" after John wrote, why do you think the rest of the things in the book also did not?
I have explained how we have experienced all the terrible effects of the first Five Seals. They were opened in the 1st Century.
But the Sixth Seal awaits fulfillment. It will be the event that will commence all the rest of Revelation and culminate in the Return of Jesus and then the final Judgment and Eternity.
Why do you not accept these facts?
Says who, the powers that be can explain anything away with science.

What makes you so sure, are you waiting for actual blood to flood the waters?
We do have the benefit of modern knowledge and the hindsight of nearly 2000 years to help in our understanding of Bible Prophecy.
The Prophets did their best to explain what God showed them, but had to tell it in words and descriptions within their knowledge. We now know much more about the world and the universe and how what they described could literally happen.

Re the water turned to blood: This is not literal; again it is how the Prophets saw it, but will be fulfilled by some natural means; perhaps an algae bloom, but this is usually just localized, not worldwide as prophesied. I think it will be the result of cosmic particles showering the earth.
Do you think the earthquakes spoken of will be the one predicted to hit California?
The earthquakes prophesied in the Sixth Seal; the next prophesied event we can expect, will affect all the world.
California will be badly affected, as will every area close to the oceans. The whole earth will shake, causing all the seas to slosh violently from side to side. Tsunamis of unprecedented height and power will virtually wipe out every coastal habitation worldwide.
Amos 9:6, Nahum 1:8, Jeremiah 52:55
 
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I have explained how we have experienced all the terrible effects of the first Five Seals. They were opened in the 1st Century.
But the Sixth Seal awaits fulfillment. It will be the event that will commence all the rest of Revelation and culminate in the Return of Jesus and then the final Judgment and Eternity.
Why do you not accept these facts?
I take that to mean you do not read "shortly" to mean "shortly." You have your own beliefs, and the "shortly" doesn't fit in with them. You say your ideas are "facts." To me, you are contradicting that verse.

Our disagreement is so fundamental, I don't think further discussion would be fruitful.
 

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I take that to mean you do not read "shortly" to mean "shortly." You have your own beliefs, and the "shortly" doesn't fit in with them. You say your ideas are "facts." To me, you are contradicting that verse.
I say the Bible truths are facts.
But with words like 'shortly' and 'soon to happen', simple commonsense shows that only part was actually at or near the time it was Written. The rest awaits God's good timing. Remember that to God; one day in heaven equals 1000 years of earth time. Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8
Our disagreement is just that you prefer not to believe that dramatic events will happen as we approach the end of this age.
 

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I say the Bible truths are facts.
But with words like 'shortly' and 'soon to happen', simple commonsense shows that only part was actually at or near the time it was Written. The rest awaits God's good timing. Remember that to God; one day in heaven equals 1000 years of earth time. Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8
Our disagreement is just that you prefer not to believe that dramatic events will happen as we approach the end of this age.
I know about the thousand years as a day. I do.

I don't think John would have written in a misleading way. You do believe he wasn't clear. You choose "common sense" over scripture.

Again you do not know what I believe. Stop pretending to know things when you don't. Please.
 

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We do have the benefit of modern knowledge and the hindsight of nearly 2000 years to help in our understanding of Bible Prophecy.
The Prophets did their best to explain what God showed them, but had to tell it in words and descriptions within their knowledge. We now know much more about the world and the universe and how what they described could literally happen.

Re the water turned to blood: This is not literal; again it is how the Prophets saw it, but will be fulfilled by some natural means; perhaps an algae bloom, but this is usually just localized, not worldwide as prophesied. I think it will be the result of cosmic particles showering the earth.

Thank you for taking the time to reply Keraz, It would have to be worldwide and not just Florida, sometimes us Americans think the world revolves only around us.
 
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Even though the sixth seal comes before the seventh chronologically, for whatever reason the events of the sixth seal follow those of the seventh seal (which corresponds to the Great Tribulation which is in the future).

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken (Mt 24:29)

Except that a blood moon and a darkened moon are not the same. A moon that does not give light means it won't be giving blood red light (color).
 

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Except that a blood moon and a darkened moon are not the same. A moon that does not give light means it won't be giving blood red light (color).
The moon being turned to blood is simply a metaphor for a darkened moon. Please note: and the moon became as blood. Venous blood is very dark and this is a comparison to dark blood (almost black) as on the right hand side. Which means that the moon "will not give her light".
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The moon being turned to blood is simply a metaphor for a darkened moon. Please note: and the moon became as blood. Venous blood is very dark and this is a comparison to dark blood (almost black) as on the right hand side. Which means that the moon "will not give her light".
This statement is made from desperation to make a prophecy fit a belief. It destroys any credibility you may have had.

Note that Isaiah 30:26a says; On that Day the moon will shine as bright as the sun..... Caused by the Sun shining seven times brighter; an explosion of the suns surface; a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude.
This is paralleled by Joel 2:30-31 and Revelation 6:12-17. Why don't people accept what the Lord has informed us about what He intends to do to destroy His enemies and to set the scene for all that must happen before He Returns?
 

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Even though the sixth seal comes before the seventh chronologically, for whatever reason the events of the sixth seal follow those of the seventh seal (which corresponds to the Great Tribulation which is in the future).

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken (Mt 24:29)

Enoch, I see the 6th seal as the final last-chance warning to unbelievers, before all hell breaks loose when the 7th seal is opened.

In the 5th seal we see the saints being martyred, until the number of those who are to be killed is complete. I sometimes think of the first 6 seals to be those of the lesser tribulation, and the 7th seal to be the GREAT Tribulation. But before the 7th seal is opened, God provides the 6th seal as a sample of what is about to take place, and last chance to repent before the 7th seal is opened.

Then, in Rev. 7, everything comes to a halt all those who are going to escape the suffering of the GREAT Tribulation are provided with immunity. The 144,000 Jews who are to go through the GREAT Tribulation receive a seal which will protect them from the plagues to come.

Then we see the myriad of saints who are taken to Heaven, the ones who are taken OUT of the great tribulation. Rev 7:9

So all that is left on earth are those who have chosen to curse God "and neither did they repent"
 

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The moon being turned to blood is simply a metaphor for a darkened moon. Please note: and the moon became as blood. Venous blood is very dark and this is a comparison to dark blood (almost black) as on the right hand side. Which means that the moon "will not give her light".
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With all the spectacular earthquake action taking place, it not unreasonable to assume that all this darkening of the heavenly lights, has something to do with pollution in the atmosphere as a consequence of earthquakes causing lots of volcanoes to erupt. ??
 

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Enoch, I see the 6th seal as the final last-chance warning to unbelievers, before all hell breaks loose when the 7th seal is opened.
That was my original understanding also until I noticed that the Lord presented the events of the 6th seal as a sequel to the Great Tribulation (7th seal judgments).

Some of the events under the final 7th trumpet judgment correspond to the 6th seal judgments.

REVELATION 16
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

GREAT EARTHQUAKE (REV 6:12)
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

ISLANDS AND MOUNTAINS REMOVED FROM THEIR PLACES (REV 6:14)
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

HAIL OUT OF HEAVEN = STARS OUT OF HEAVEN? (REV 6:13)
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.