Should Christians not participate in Halloween?

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Willie T

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I fought the predecessor to Common Core in my state back in the early '90s. We worked with legislators to get the educators in charge to tell the truth to parents about what they were doing. I spent a whole year fighting this, and we barely made a dent.
Why did you accomplish so little?
 

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Why did you accomplish so little?
The school system said they got rid of the reforms, but really they just changed the verbiage. They modified it a little and called it something else. People were appeased by this. But this has been a federal goal all along--to control education and shift the emphasis from cognitive to affective.
 
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Edit: Most people don't understand the longterm agenda of the U.S. Dept of Education. So, they don't understand that Common Core is the end of the train, which started way back.... Common Core is not going away. If enough parents and teachers squawk about it, the powers that be will just change the name and language used and carry on. This is what they did in my state.
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Oh don't kid yourself that it is a U.S. thing....not at all...it is a world wide thing...preparing the way....
 
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Schools have NOT been collecting data on school children from psychological testing since pioneer days. Even if this kind of testing existed back then, it would have been considered an invasion of privacy.

Have you ever worked for, or taught in, a public school system?
What good is it going to do to find out an elementary age boy has been abusing his younger sister for a couple of years, or has already killed a couple of family pets, etc, (OR.... that the child might be at risk from an unexposed and unregistered predator in their own family) if the family moves across the country and the information is secreted away back in the original county? How do you suggest it be globally available to any new school that may be thousands of miles away?
 

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What good is it going to do to find out an elementary age boy has been abusing his younger sister for a couple of years, or has already killed a couple of family pets, etc, (OR.... that the child might be at risk from a predator in their own family) if the family moves across the country and the information is secreted away back in the original county? How do you suggest it be globally available to any new school that may be thousands of miles away?

Where do you draw the line with personal data collection? Would it be okay with you for the schools to do psychological testing on your children without your knowledge or consent and share this data with whomever they choose? That is what the schools are doing. Why doesn't this bother you? I'm nonplussed.
 

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What good is it going to do to find out an elementary age boy has been abusing his younger sister for a couple of years, or has already killed a couple of family pets, etc, (OR.... that the child might be at risk from an unexposed and unregistered predator in their own family) if the family moves across the country and the information is secreted away back in the original county? How do you suggest it be globally available to any new school that may be thousands of miles away?

Oh don't you believe it.
They will keep a list and 'when the time comes' who better to conscript to 'do a job than needs doing'...
 
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Where do you draw the line with personal data collection? Would it be okay with you for the schools to do psychological testing on your children without your knowledge or consent and share this data with whomever they choose? That is what the schools are doing. Why doesn't this bother you? I'm nonplussed.


My brothers grandchildren already have to fill in questionnaires at school about all their home life ..
 

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Where do you draw the line with personal data collection? Would it be okay with you for the schools to do psychological testing on your children without your knowledge or consent and share this data with whomever they choose? That is what the schools are doing. Why doesn't this bother you? I'm nonplussed.
I dunno. I'm not one of the parents whose child was murdered in a school shooting wherein all sorts of that kind of information came out about the shooter AFTER the fact.
 

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I was born and raised in England.
Once a Christian I was very aware of halloween ..the Druid Halloween.
We lived is the south of England ..Sussex, and it was one of the centre of witchcraft.

Alex Saunders the King of the Western Witches lived up the road...No way, no how was Halloween , the real halloween and all it stands for 'imported from USA' Oct 31st is a very special day for the Satanists, as is midsummer day.
Alax Saunders met with us and asked us if we would not pray against them because his coven could not reach their power- peak because I prayers stopped them. And yes, they did actually dance around the bonfire naked and wait to reach their peak and be 'slain' by some demon power so they could each grow stronger.
My eldest daughter had Alex Saunders latest hight priestess again 14 in her class at school. Just like Christians , they aggressively evangelize , especially the young teens.

We were thrilled with he ( Alex Saunders) got fed up with us blocking his power he moved from our town.

Some Christians have no idea of the real activity and deny it.
One one Christian web site I got strongly rebuked by the Admin who told me I was lying and it is all "Just all good fun ".....the man is an idiot.

What got brought to England and Oz in the 80's + was that very concept of . "It's just fun for the kids" ...they sold that lie along with the Candy....doing the Devils work for him. Now we see Christians "having fun" along with the satanic...and they don't want to know.

"Everybody just be happy." :rolleyes:

WOW...that is something. And I do know this side of Halloween. Children are little lights though. And I think the "fun" side of Halloween with lots of prayers for safety and against powers of darkness is power against it.
 
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Oh don't kid yourself that it is a U.S. thing....not at all...it is a world wide thing...preparing the way....

This quote is from the EFA (Education for All) 2000 Assessment Surveys Report titled “Assessing Basic Learning Competencies among Youth and Young Adults in Developing Countries: Analytic Survey Framework and Implementation Guidelines.”

The term “life skills” covers a broad cluster of competencies that have received little attention from educators as part of the formal school curriculum. In recent years, however, such skills are recognized as requiring much more consideration, in both developed and developing countries. In broad terms, the notion of life skills relates to the diverse knowledge, skills, values, and attitudes that together enable children, youth, and adults to prevent or cope with situations in which their own (physical or psychological) well-being or safety may be at risk, achieve their personal goals, function effectively in their social environment, and enhance their quality of life. According to UNICEF [United Nations], “Life Skills enable children and young people to translate knowledge (what one knows) and attitudes/values (what one feels, believes) into action (what to do and how to do it).”
Edit: This is also from my book:

In light of the type of data that is being collected by Education for All (EFA), consider this alarming quote from “Learning for All: Bridging Domestic and International Education,” a report from the 1991USCEFA conference. USCEFA is the United States Coalition for Education for All. It is interesting to note that the report is prefaced with a letter of support from former First Lady Barbara Bush. Among the conference’s co-sponsors were the two largest teachers unions in the United States—National Education Association (NEA) and American Federation of Teachers (AFT)—the National School Boards Association, The College Board, Save the Children, IBM, Apple, and the National Center for Education Statistics (U.S. Department of Education).

A large body of research has exposed the paradox that young children learn easily before they attend school, yet have trouble learning as pupils. One school of thought suggests that preschool children develop strong theories which generally persist into adulthood of how the world works. According to that theory, education must be able to challenge and even displace those early notions by “confounding” them through dynamic learning experiences. Most schools, however, offer set forms of knowledge that never challenge the learner’s basic notions....​

In other words, by the time children get to school, they have pretty much adopted their parents’ values and beliefs. These values and beliefs must be “displaced” or changed. The report goes on to explain that “traditional forms of testing do not account for such mastery of complex material,...” so there’s a need for new kinds of “testing....”
 
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I dunno. I'm not one of the parents whose child was murdered in a school shooting wherein all sorts of that kind of information came out about the shooter AFTER the fact.
You're conflating two issues. The boy who shot his classmates in Florida had been in a lot of trouble with the school and law enforcement. He shouldn't have been allowed access to the school. All the psychological testing in the world wouldn't have prevented this when law enforcement dropped the ball.

If a child is showing tendencies for violence, the parents should be called in, and the schools should work with the parents to find a solution. Psychological testing shouldn't be forced upon all school children because a few become violent.
 
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Some here know the kind of therapy work I did for almost a quarter of a century. "Yes!!!!" I want much of that kind of information out there. Much of my work might not have been needed if many things had not been kept a secret until AFTER a child was violated.
 

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Some here know the kind of therapy work I did for almost a quarter of a century. "Yes!!!!" I want much of that kind of information out there. Much of my work might not have been needed if many things had not been kept a secret until AFTER a child was violated.
You mean as a therapist or in therapy? I assume you mean the second.
 

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What we DON'T need is more restrictive "laws" that coerce people into hiding their need for some emotional or mental help.... or secrecy that accomplishes the same thing through shaming.
 
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What we DON'T need is more restrictive "laws" that coerce people into hiding their need for some emotional or mental help.... or secrecy that accomplishes the same thing through shaming.
Willie, please hear what I'm saying. I feel for children who are abused, but giving the federal government a means to collect highly personal data on school children and their families is not the answer to this dilemma.
 
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Willie, please hear what I'm saying. I feel for children who are abused, but giving the federal government a means to collect highly personal data on school children and their families is not the answer to this dilemma.
Who else is going to handle the way-overdue task of compiling this kind of necessary database?
 

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Who else is going to handle the way-overdue task of compiling this kind of necessary database?
What??? Necessary for whom? For the antichrist to use against us?

Did you read the data elements? They include religion.
 
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