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Heart2Soul

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I agree all this bickering and name brings no glory to God, mind you very few posts do.
I try to go through and delete or edit the worst ones....but it wears me out...I want to read something edifying and uplifting.:)
 
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The objective is not to prove anything to any human being regarding Commandment keeping.....the objective is to live healthy functional lives that glorify God not dysfunctional lives that live a pretence.

It is the Law that serves as a mirror. As Paul says, he would not have known what it was to covet unless the Law had pointed it out to him. Pretending the Law doesn't exist or is no longer relevant (whatever language one wants to use to convey the same meaning) is the epitome of dysfunction.

Holiness at its base is functionality.
The world is filled with laws that do nothing, the world just made being social a crime, laws do nothing but condemn men, the world is filled with people who claim to keep the law, by we all know they cannot, for that was teh reason Christ came into this world. I guess people love hanging that noose around the necks of believers.

Act_15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
 

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The objective is not to prove anything to any human being regarding Commandment keeping.....the objective is to live healthy functional lives that glorify God not dysfunctional lives that live a pretence.

It is the Law that serves as a mirror. As Paul says, he would not have known what it was to covet unless the Law had pointed it out to him. Pretending the Law doesn't exist or is no longer relevant (whatever language one wants to use to convey the same meaning) is the epitome of dysfunction.

Holiness at its base is functionality.
The law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; but after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster (Galatians 3:24-25).

A righteousness of God has been given apart from the law, and it is attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21). Because against the fruit of the Spirit there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23); and we receive the Spirit by faith (Galatians 3:14).
 
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I agree all this bickering and name brings no glory to God, mind you very few posts do.
If every thread that contains bickering is closed, the whole forum would be closed down.

If individuals need to be called down, then I'm for that rather than punishing those who are not bickering.
 
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I try to go through and delete or edit the worst ones....but it wears me out...I want to read something edifying and uplifting.:)
I feel your pain, believe me Christ weeps over those who call them selves by His name for they will not got to Him to find life, Just as HE did over ISrael

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

God bless you
 
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I feel your pain, believe me Christ weeps over those who call them selves by His name for they will not got to Him to find life, Just as HE did over ISrael

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

God bless you
Amen, brother....soon....very soon....the outpour of the Holy Spirit by Fire is coming! what a revival that will be!
 

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I try to go through and delete or edit the worst ones....but it wears me out...I want to read something edifying and uplifting.:)
I don't envy your position as moderator, and my prayers are with you, H2S. It must get very tiring, like a mom with bickering kids. But I encourage the mods to err on the side of freedom of speech. Of course, certain types of speech should never be tolerated.
 

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I feel your pain, believe me Christ weeps over those who call them selves by His name for they will not got to Him to find life, Just as HE did over ISrael

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

God bless you
Oh, for crying out loud, mjr, you are never guilty of bickering?? :rolleyes:
 

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I don't envy your position as moderator, and my prayers are with you, H2H. It must get very tiring, like a mom with bickering kids. But I encourage the mods to err on the side of freedom of speech. Of course, certain types of speech should never be tolerated.
Freedom of speech is not prohibited but flaming, goading and attacking is against forum rules and that has to be dealt with. And when there is a report against a member then that takes even more priority to get things under control....otherwise it just escalates. Ok, nuff said...on to better things.
God Bless!
 

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Freedom of speech is not prohibited but flaming, goading and attacking is against forum rules and that has to be dealt with. And when there is a report against a member then that takes even more priority to get things under control....otherwise it just escalates. Ok, nuff said...on to better things.
God Bless!
Right, I know that you need to deal with these problems. I just encourage you not to close threads.

Sorry if you felt attacked by me. I pray that God will give you wisdom and grace as you moderate. I know that I need these as I post!

God bless!
 
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Only to those not in Him. God cannot judge a man twice for the same sin, either He has forgiven us or He has not, If He has not than Christs death was purely a con and fabrication and a lie, but men seem determind to be judged by there worthless works as if it brings them some honor.
In a sense all humanity is in Jesus just as all humanity is in Adam. All fell in Adam, all redeemed in Jesus the new representative of the human race.....after all, this is the good news isn't it? yes, good news not good advice!

One can also apply 'in him' as pertaining only to those who believe in him. Those who in truth believe in him will honour him, will bring forth fruits worthy of repentance.....those fruits are reflected in his Commandments....because as Paul says 'they are holy and just and good'

Those who denigrate God's Commandments do so because they desire to break them while appearing to honour him.
Need I use the word 'hypocrisy'? ....it's the way of the world; the image is relished but the reality is shunned. The 'religious' system specialises in it.

Again, Paul tells us that all Israel left Egypt but few of that generation made it into the promised land .....sooo, we can apply the same principle to 'in him'. Jesus paid for all mens sins 2000 yrs ago....not when they believed. We can deduct from that that humanity left Egypt (that iron smelting pot.....that world of dysfunction) in Jesus.

The final number of redeemed (those in Jesus) however will be a fraction of those who heard the Good News of their redemption.....they knew but took it not to heart......subsequently the many parables making that point.

Judas knew yet he chose a contrary path.
 
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I think that maybe you are just unable to understand what I am talking about.

The fact of the matter is that Jesus can violate the letter of the sabbath day law and still not be a sinner; because as High Priest according to the order of Melchizedec, He brought about a change in law (Hebrews 7:12) from the letter to the spirit (Romans 7:6). So then, the letter of the law does not condemn Him as a sinner even though He violated it.

And also, His coming as High Priest was not after a carnal commandment but after the power of an endless life (Hebrews 7:16).

In other words, Jesus was and is God and He was and is the Lord of the sabbath day; so His violation of the letter of that law did not condemn Him as a sinner since His endless life cannot be brought to an end by His violation of the letter of that law.
gobbledy gook jbf
 

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gobbledy gook jbf
I take it you are either a Jehovah's Witness and don't want to believe what I'm saying because it means that Jesus claimed to be equal with God, in John 5:18; or else you are a 7th-day-adventist who has not yet come to the knowledge of salvation because you are still attempting to earn your salvation by the works of the law.

I suggest you do a study on Romans 7:6 and 2 Corinthians 3:6.

The preaching of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing (1 Corinthians 1:18). But it is also that same preaching of what is deemed to be foolishness that will save those who believe (1 Corinthians 1:21).
 

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Those who denigrate God's Commandments do so because they desire to break them while appearing to honour him.
Need I use the word 'hypocrisy'? ....it's the way of the world; the image is relished but the reality is shunned. The 'religious' system specialises in it.
You should not you would be speaking of yourself.

Are you not a SDA??? that is too religion.