Christians and the Law of Moses

[BOWnQUIVER]

Paul said that we are Dead to the Law.....who would prefer Laws written on cold stone for guidance when you have The Holy Spirit Of God within you to do that job? Paul said the Law was “ weak and useless” in that it has NO POWER to save.....

The bible says "weak and beggarly"

GAL.4 [8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? [10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS.[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Anyways,Galatians 4 says nothing about sabbaths or feast days. Its speaking of those who observe times.

DEUT.18 [9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, OR AN OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch,[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

The same thing goes on to this very day. Its speaking of the occult. Those who observe certain days by use of horoscopes?

2 CHR.33 [3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.[4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.[5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: ALSO HE OBSERVED TIMES, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger

Enchantments, witchcraft, familiar spirits, and wizards. Its speaking of the occult. Not following sabbath days.

LEV.19 [26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, NOR OBSERVE TIMES.[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.[30] YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

I guess this scripture says it all. You shall not observe times BUT you will keep my sabbaths.

 

[Joseph77]

IN ENGLISH, western , american thought and life,

the original purpose, meaning, and life, known in the first century,

is almost never known.

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

Addressing the OP
Scripture #1. 1 Timothy 1:9 & 10

as for the LAW it self,
scripture #2. Romans 2:12
scripture #3. Romans 2:14 ...... BINGO.

and as for what is COMMANDED to obey?
scripture #4. Micah 6:8. BINGO, and another BINGO.

PICJAG.

Are you Catholic?

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

Jesus said, I am the Lord of the sabbath, The sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath.......

So if Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath and Jesus made the sabbath for man why in the wide wide world of sports would man ignore that day for another.

 

[Joseph77]

So if Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath and Jesus made the sabbath for man why in the wide wide world of sports would man ignore that day for another.

To most men, they love the approval and the love of other men, instead of the approval and the love of God.

i.e. tradition invalidating Scripture, as Jesus spoke about and accused the leaders of doing, and warned against the hypocrisy, Jesus warned strictly about the hypocrisy, of the religious leaders.

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

How long did the seventh day last in God's economy?

Economy?? Shouldnt be listening to that Oklahoma farm boy

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

To most men, they love the approval and the love of other men, instead of the approval and the love of God.

i.e. tradition invalidating Scripture, as Jesus spoke about and accused the leaders of doing, and warned against the hypocrisy, Jesus warned strictly about the hypocrisy, of the religious leaders.

Hey Joseph77. How are things goin with you?

 

[Joseph77]

Hey Joseph77. How are things goin with you?

It's like fancy rich dining on a sumptuous meal, best of food and perfect juice, on the Titanic, knowing what is ahead, letting others know also,

and being prepared..... as the Creator Permits....

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

It's like fancy rich dining on a sumptuous meal, best of food and perfect juice, on the Titanic......

Thanks for the smile.

 

[101G]

Are you Catholic?

no

PICJAG.

 

[Joseph77]

PRAISE GOD ! HALLELUYAH ! GIVE THANKS TO GOD ! PRAISE HIS NAME !

(I thought you were not cath, and would have been surprised and devastated for your soul if you answered yes)

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

Are you Catholic?

I only asked you if you were catholic was because you mentioned bingo 3 times. A little levity levitizes the whole bunch

 

[BOWnQUIVER]

God orders us to REST in His Gospel Of Grace 1cor15:1-4 . Why is He so insistent on this “ Rest? “ So “ insistent “ that He will call you an “ UNbeliever” if you don’t obey Him in regard to it? It’s because He knows that the Rest is the Key to Everything.

I dont see one word about any rest in scripture you pointed out

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

What i do see. You must believe He rose again ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE in order to be saved.
According to scripture Jesus was 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. Do you believe Friday afternoon till sunday mornin equals 3 days and 3 nights?

 

[justbyfaith]

Resting is ordered in Hebrews 4:10 and in Matthew 11:28-30 (kjv).

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Resting is ordered in Hebrews 4:10 and in Matthew 11:28-30 (kjv).

Yeah .....what he said ....

 

[justbyfaith]

According to scripture Jesus was 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. Do you believe Friday afternoon till sunday mornin equals 3 days and 3 nights?

There was a high sabbath involved which adds another day to the equation.

 

[mjrhealth]

Addressing the OP
Scripture #1. 1 Timothy 1:9 & 10

as for the LAW it self,
scripture #2. Romans 2:12
scripture #3. Romans 2:14 ...... BINGO.

and as for what is COMMANDED to obey?
scripture #4. Micah 6:8. BINGO, and another BINGO.

the law was only given to show you your sin, and the Levitical priesthood was establish to cover it, but never removed it. hence the need for a NEW COVENANT, and High Priest. so 1 Timothy 1:9 is in effect if one is in Christ. for he ended the law by fulfilling it. so we suggest one follow Micah 6:8 if you want to obey something in the OT, which the Lord God, JESUS, himself establish from the beginning, before the ten showed you your sin.

PICJAG.

Here we go again, being put in bondage to the law, rejecting grace to prove ones worth by works,

 

[justbyfaith]

Here we go again, being put in bondage to the law, rejecting grace to prove ones worth by works,

I don't think that that is what he was saying at all.

For he mentioned that the law is given to show a man that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour.

That kind of thing leads a man to grace.

 

[mjrhealth]

For he mentioned that the law is given to show a man that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour.

The law was given to the Jews not the gentiles. it was our conscious that told us what was good and bad, it was instructor to the JEws not us. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts the unbeliever of sin.

 

[justbyfaith]

The law was given to the Jews not the gentiles. it was our conscious that told us what was good and bad, it was instructor to the JEws not us. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts the unbeliever of sin.

We have been through this before; so I say this more on behalf of the ones whom you might be deceiving with your statements as it seems that no amount of pointing out the truth will be able to reach you.

Clearly, in Galatians 3:23, those who have been born again were previously kept under the law, before faith came. And those who have been born again at this point are both Jews and Gentiles. Paul is specifically writing this letter to a Gentile church and exhorting them not to follow after the Judaizers into legalism.

Secondly, in Romans 3:19-20, it should be clear that all the world will become guilty before God because of what is written in the law. What the law says (in Romans 3:10-18) it says to those who are under it; and Gentiles are not exempt according to the context in Romans 3:9. But the church of God is exempt (compare 1 Corinthians 10:32).