Prayer Warrior
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Well, I don't think equality under the law is a radical idea at all like you're implying. That's not all Obama "preached" about.
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Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.
Protesters tore down police tape and pushed forward toward Richmond police headquarters, where they set a city dump truck on fire.
Police declared the event an “unlawful assembly” and ordered people to leave, later deploying tear gas.
Six people were arrested. The mayor of Richmond thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters he said tried to stop the white supremacists from spearheading the violence.
Richmond Police Claim White Supremacists Behind BLM Riots
Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors
“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors
According to a probable cause affidavit filed in Bowie County, Texas, Aaron Swenson, 37, was charged with making a terroristic threat against a peace officer, after Swenson “posted a Facebook Live video stating he was going to ambush and murder a Peace Officer.”
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Swenson’s arrest comes in the midst of increased scrutiny on white supremacy and far-right extremism. In July, FBI Director Christopher Wray informed Congress that “a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence.”
'Boogaloo Boy' Arrested in Texas, Charged With Plotting To Murder Cops on Facebook Live
The hilarious thing is, these guys are bragging about being "pure Aryan supermen" when in reality...
(inbred right-wing extremist picture)
Despite President Donald Trump‘s claims that leftist groups are causing violence, new research has found that there have been zero deaths attributed to such groups while white supremacists and right-wing extremists have killed and harmed dozens of people over the past 25 years, according to mic.
Based on findings from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), “in 14 of the 21 years between 1994 and 2019 in which fatal terrorist attacks occurred, the majority of deaths resulted from right-wing attacks. In eight of these years, right-wing attackers caused all of the fatalities, and in three more—including 2018 and 2019—they were responsible for more than 90 percent of annual fatalities. Therefore, while religious terrorists caused the largest number of total fatalities, right-wing attackers were most likely to cause more deaths in a given year.”
Study: Right-Wing Extremists Have Killed 329 People While Left-Wing Groups Have Killed 0 in Decades
Remember, now? There's lots more. Want to see more?
Not all of them are Nazis. Some are just very conservative. Others are white nationalists, but not necessarily Nazis.
I mentioned where some BLM members got arrested for writing on a street in chalk, and one who spray painted on a police car.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be much more common than other kinds of terrorists.
Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.
Protesters tore down police tape and pushed forward toward Richmond police headquarters, where they set a city dump truck on fire.
Police declared the event an “unlawful assembly” and ordered people to leave, later deploying tear gas.
Six people were arrested. The mayor of Richmond thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters he said tried to stop the white supremacists from spearheading the violence.
Richmond Police Claim White Supremacists Behind BLM Riots
Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors
“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors
According to a probable cause affidavit filed in Bowie County, Texas, Aaron Swenson, 37, was charged with making a terroristic threat against a peace officer, after Swenson “posted a Facebook Live video stating he was going to ambush and murder a Peace Officer.”
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Swenson’s arrest comes in the midst of increased scrutiny on white supremacy and far-right extremism. In July, FBI Director Christopher Wray informed Congress that “a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence.”
'Boogaloo Boy' Arrested in Texas, Charged With Plotting To Murder Cops on Facebook Live
The hilarious thing is, these guys are bragging about being "pure Aryan supermen" when in reality...
(inbred right-wing extremist picture)
Despite President Donald Trump‘s claims that leftist groups are causing violence, new research has found that there have been zero deaths attributed to such groups while white supremacists and right-wing extremists have killed and harmed dozens of people over the past 25 years, according to mic.
Based on findings from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), “in 14 of the 21 years between 1994 and 2019 in which fatal terrorist attacks occurred, the majority of deaths resulted from right-wing attacks. In eight of these years, right-wing attackers caused all of the fatalities, and in three more—including 2018 and 2019—they were responsible for more than 90 percent of annual fatalities. Therefore, while religious terrorists caused the largest number of total fatalities, right-wing attackers were most likely to cause more deaths in a given year.”
Study: Right-Wing Extremists Have Killed 329 People While Left-Wing Groups Have Killed 0 in Decades
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Not all of them are Nazis. Some are just very conservative. Others are white nationalists, but not necessarily Nazis.
I mentioned where some BLM members got arrested for writing on a street in chalk, and one who spray painted on a police car.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be much more common than other kinds of terrorists.
Not according to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security:
FBI director to Congress: Most domestic terror cases are driven by "white supremacist violence"
Despite Trump's denials, FBI Director Christopher Wray says right-wing racist terrorism is a major threat
Homeland Security Dept. Affirms Threat of White Supremacy After Years of Prodding
Homeland Security Dept. Affirms Threat of White Supremacy After Years of Prodding
White nationalists and right wing "accelerationists" believe that if they destroy everything, they will be able to force all black people back on the right-wing plantation.
Not going to happen. You guys lost that argument.
So why did you object to Obama asserting it, praising Lewis for risking his life to make that come to pass?
What exactly about Obama's advocacy of equality did offend you? Quote for us.
You guys can never decide whether democrats want to have Marxism or anarchy. If you'd settle on one story, and stick to it, you'd probably be more convincing. As you learned, it's the "accelerationist right" and the "boogaloo boise" on the extreme right who want to bring down everything. They believe that if they destroy everything, they will be able to get blacks and Jews back on the plantation.
The demographics of a largely white, young, and destructive group fit more with a movement known as accelerationists than Black Lives Matter.
The accelerationists, if you have never heard the term, are an extreme subset of white nationalism whose goal is to bring about chaos and destruction. The basic tenet of accelerationism argues that since Western governments are inherently corrupt, the best (and only) thing supremacists can do is to accelerate the end of society by sowing chaos and aggravating political tensions. “Accelerationist ideas have been cited in mass shooters’ manifestos — explicitly, in the case of the New Zealand killer — and are frequently referenced in white supremacist web forums and chat rooms,” Zack Beauchamp explained.
White Supremacists pretending to host a protest to honor Floyd George on Facebook to whip up violence in San Diego were posted on the BLMSD social media warning people not to go and that it was a white supremacist organized rally. People attending demonstrations remarked on the fact that the demographics were wrong, in places like Oakland where the majority of the destruction was perpetrated by young Caucasian men has inspired not just people on social media but reporting in the mainstream media to properly question whether this is a form of infiltration by outside extremist elements.
Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists
As you see above, it's fortunate that most right-wing extremists aren't that bright, and so they tend to get caught at these deceptions. I'm sure it infuriates them and their supporters.
TOTALLY FALSE.
"...Thus the fight against white supremacism has morphed from attacking its genuine manifestations to using false accusations of it against political opponents. This was again vividly illustrated yesterday when a raft of Democrats attacked The New York Times for a headline reading “Trump Urges Unity Against Racism.” The president can literally denounce white supremacist racism and have that used as an occasion to call him a white supremacist racist. You can’t make this stuff up. This kind of one-sided politicization of what should be a bipartisan concern destroys the credibility of leaders on the left who claim to care about ending white supremacy, which ultimately undermines that cause..."
No, White Supremacy Is Not A Crisis
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Exactly How Many White Supremacists Are There in America?
"...Working backward alphabetically there was; White Revolution, White Lives Matter, Vinlanders Social Club, VDARE, United Constitutional Patriots… By the time I got to the League of the South (they want to politically dominate black people and other minorities. I was ready to accept that the number of white supremacists affiliated with groups in the United States exceeded 500,000 as estimated by one source.Then I read something that was truly disturbing which was that most white supremacists don’t affiliate with organizations. It’s probably because of the dues...
Exactly How Many White Supremacists Are There in America? - The Good Men Project
Let's say for the sake of argument, that the unaffiliated are another 500,000. That makes it 1 million in a population of about 330,000,000. As a percentage that works out to only 0.3%, or not even a fraction of 1% of the population.
Also, your post was PURELY DEFLECTION. The anarchy since the death of George Floyd has nothing to do with White Supremacists and everything to do with Black Supremacists and Antifa thugs (who support them, since both are funded by Soros). That is not to say that White Supremacists are not thugs. But thery are NOT destroying America, as you are trying to suggest.
Something else which no one want to talk about (since it would immediately be term *racist*) is that every American city that is run by Democratic black mayors and black attorney generals has become a hell-hole. So there must be a connection. It would appear that race and/or Socialism has something to do with the deterioration of cities in America.
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They want to have both. In fact they want to have it all. So we have a mix of Socialist/Communist/Marxist/Racist/Anarchist/Bolshevist operating in America. It is no longer either/or. Their tactics are a mix of every evil political tactic. Plus Alinsky's Rules. And the guy funding these DOMESTIC TERRORISTS is an ex-Nazi Jew.
Portland mayor condemns rioters for 'attempting to commit murder'
Oops... even the liberal mayor of Portland disagree with your conspiracy theories.
White nationalists and right wing "accelerationists" believe that if they destroy everything, they will be able to force all black people back on the right-wing plantation.
It's true. No point in denying it:
A group known as “accelerationists,” in particular, has seized on the pandemic. Online, they have advanced a raft of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and hateful propaganda accusing Jews and migrants of responsibility for starting and spreading the virus, respectively. Accelerationists believe that the social upheaval they promote, which is viewed as a necessary prelude that will usher in the rebuilding of society on the basis of white power, has been made plausible by the scenes of illness and death dominating mainstream news coverage.
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Accelerationism is the most inherently violent and dangerous ideology circulating in the global white supremacist extremist movement. Accelerationists believe that a race war is not only inevitable, but desirable, as it is the only path to achieving white power by bringing about the downfall of current systems of government. Their beliefs are shaped in large part by James Mason’s Siege, which draws on Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and prominent American neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Accelerationists call for the expulsion or extermination of Jewish people, ethnic and racial minorities, and white “race traitors,” a category that includes race-mixing white women, academics, journalists, and politicians. Their online conversations are molded by a belief that other white supremacists are insufficiently extreme and that only violence directed against the political system can lead to the establishment of white power.
Accelerationists are especially dangerous because they believe an act of mass violence by a single individual (a “lone wolf”) or small cell can trigger their desired race war.
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Accelerationism’s call for armed resistance by lone wolves in the name of hastening of an inevitable societal collapse has produced violent results. The manifestos of both Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest—who in 2019 perpetrated mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and a synagogue in Poway, California, respectively—espoused key concepts of accelerationism in describing their motivations or calling for further action. Other plots by accelerationist cells have been foiled, but reflected an intent to act towards similarly violent ends.
The Growing Threat Posed by Accelerationism and Accelerationist Groups Worldwide - Foreign Policy Research Institute
These are the people in the street, murdering police, inciting riots and burning buildings. It's why the FBI recognizes them as the most dangerous of terrorists in America.
It's true. No point in denying it:
A group known as “accelerationists,” in particular, has seized on the pandemic. Online, they have advanced a raft of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and hateful propaganda accusing Jews and migrants of responsibility for starting and spreading the virus, respectively. Accelerationists believe that the social upheaval they promote, which is viewed as a necessary prelude that will usher in the rebuilding of society on the basis of white power, has been made plausible by the scenes of illness and death dominating mainstream news coverage.
...
Accelerationism is the most inherently violent and dangerous ideology circulating in the global white supremacist extremist movement. Accelerationists believe that a race war is not only inevitable, but desirable, as it is the only path to achieving white power by bringing about the downfall of current systems of government. Their beliefs are shaped in large part by James Mason’s Siege, which draws on Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and prominent American neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Accelerationists call for the expulsion or extermination of Jewish people, ethnic and racial minorities, and white “race traitors,” a category that includes race-mixing white women, academics, journalists, and politicians. Their online conversations are molded by a belief that other white supremacists are insufficiently extreme and that only violence directed against the political system can lead to the establishment of white power.
Accelerationists are especially dangerous because they believe an act of mass violence by a single individual (a “lone wolf”) or small cell can trigger their desired race war.
...
Accelerationism’s call for armed resistance by lone wolves in the name of hastening of an inevitable societal collapse has produced violent results. The manifestos of both Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest—who in 2019 perpetrated mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and a synagogue in Poway, California, respectively—espoused key concepts of accelerationism in describing their motivations or calling for further action. Other plots by accelerationist cells have been foiled, but reflected an intent to act towards similarly violent ends.
The Growing Threat Posed by Accelerationism and Accelerationist Groups Worldwide - Foreign Policy Research Institute
These are the people in the street, murdering police, inciting riots and burning buildings. It's why the FBI recognizes them as the most dangerous of terrorists in America.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
Grailhunter
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Find some white supremacists on camera, or are they boogie men in your dreams or stupors.
Grailhunter
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What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
White wing terrorists and white supremacists...do they haunt your dreams or stupors. Videos please in the real world.
Prayer Warrior
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Lol, as usual, Obama was very good at READING his speech. He always was dependent on the teleprompter. Without the words in front of him, he tended to stammer. After 8+ years of seeing this, I remember it well.
About his speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church, all I can say is shame on Obama for quoting from God's Holy Bible! To stand in the pulpit of a Baptist church extolling the virtues of homosexuality is sacrilegious! As Obama said in the speech, "As long as young people--LGBTQ Americans...--are protesting in the streets, hoping real change takes hold, I'm hopeful,..."
And as the most pro-abortion president in history, he has no business aligning himself with God's Word!
Excerpt from a Politico report:
Obama the abortion extremist
By RICH LOWRY
08/23/2012 04:33 AM EDT
...Under the guise of upholding abortion rights, Barack Obama could favor denying legal protection to babies after they are born and the press wouldn’t bat an eyelash. In fact—he did.
In the Illinois legislature, he opposed the “Born-Alive Infants Protection Act” three times. The bill recognized babies born after attempted abortions as persons and required doctors to give them care. Obama’s stalwart opposition to the bill came up during the 2008 campaign, and his team responded with a farrago of obfuscation and distortions.
The bill was supposedly redundant. Except it wasn’t. Protections for infants who survived abortions were shot through with loopholes, which is why the bill was offered in the first place. (Abortion doctors were leaving infants to die without any care.) The bill was supposedly a threat to abortion rights. Except it wasn’t. Obama opposed a version that stipulated it didn’t affect the legal status of infants still in the womb.
About a year after his final vote against the bill, Obama gave his famous 2004 Democratic convention speech extolling post-partisan moderation. But he couldn’t even bring himself to protect infants brutalized and utterly alone in some medical facility taking what might be only a few fragile breaths on this Earth. Some moderation. The federal version of the bill that he opposed in Illinois passed the U.S. Senate unanimously. Some post-partisanship.
Obama the abortion extremist
By RICH LOWRY
08/23/2012 04:33 AM EDT
...Under the guise of upholding abortion rights, Barack Obama could favor denying legal protection to babies after they are born and the press wouldn’t bat an eyelash. In fact—he did.
In the Illinois legislature, he opposed the “Born-Alive Infants Protection Act” three times. The bill recognized babies born after attempted abortions as persons and required doctors to give them care. Obama’s stalwart opposition to the bill came up during the 2008 campaign, and his team responded with a farrago of obfuscation and distortions.
The bill was supposedly redundant. Except it wasn’t. Protections for infants who survived abortions were shot through with loopholes, which is why the bill was offered in the first place. (Abortion doctors were leaving infants to die without any care.) The bill was supposedly a threat to abortion rights. Except it wasn’t. Obama opposed a version that stipulated it didn’t affect the legal status of infants still in the womb.
About a year after his final vote against the bill, Obama gave his famous 2004 Democratic convention speech extolling post-partisan moderation. But he couldn’t even bring himself to protect infants brutalized and utterly alone in some medical facility taking what might be only a few fragile breaths on this Earth. Some moderation. The federal version of the bill that he opposed in Illinois passed the U.S. Senate unanimously. Some post-partisanship.
President Obama is an extremist on abortion. He has never supported any meaningful restriction on it, and never will.
He opposed a partial-birth abortion bill in Illinois, even as the federal version passed the House with 282 votes and the Senate with 64 votes and was signed into law by President Bush in 2003. He arrived in the U.S. Senate in time to denounce the Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the ban.
In 2007, he told the Planned Parenthood Action Fund that his first act as president would be signing the Freedom of Choice Act. The act would enshrine in federal law a right to abortion more far-reaching than in Roe v. Wade and eliminate basically all federal and state-level restrictions on abortion. This isn’t a point its supporters contest; it’s one they brag about. The National Organization for Women says it would “sweep away hundreds of anti-abortion laws [and] policies.”
The Freedom of Choice Act won’t reach the president’s desk. His support of it, though, shows how it is impossible to stake out a position further to his left on the issue, unless, perhaps, you are performing abortions yourself.
In May, a bi-partisan majority of the House, including 20 Democrats, voted to ban abortion for the purpose of sex selection. As the National Right to Life Committee noted, it didn’t occur to reporters to ask the White House about the president’s position on the legislation, with the honorable exception of Jake Tapper (who, for some reason, is always the honorable exception).
A White House spokeswoman said: “The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.” In other words, gender-based discrimination is OK—so long as it results in an abortion.
According to a poll commissioned by the Charlotte Lozier Institute about 80 percent of people oppose sex-selective abortions.
Even as he stakes out the outer edge of the abortion debate, the president sounds soothing. He has said he wants to discourage the practice. Uh-huh. He is as serious about discouraging abortion as he was about opposing gay marriage up until a few months ago. Which is to say laughably disingenuous. How many other things does the president want to discourage but not restrict in any fashion and to fund with federal dollars?
The fact is that the right to abortion is at the heart of contemporary liberalism. Roe v. Wade is liberalism’s Great Writ. Nancy Pelosi considers the right to abortion more sacrosanct than the First Amendment. She would never tamper with or restrict the former; she wants to amend the latter to allow for more campaign-finance regulations.
Source: Obama the abortion extremist
In May, a bi-partisan majority of the House, including 20 Democrats, voted to ban abortion for the purpose of sex selection. As the National Right to Life Committee noted, it didn’t occur to reporters to ask the White House about the president’s position on the legislation, with the honorable exception of Jake Tapper (who, for some reason, is always the honorable exception).
A White House spokeswoman said: “The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.” In other words, gender-based discrimination is OK—so long as it results in an abortion.
According to a poll commissioned by the Charlotte Lozier Institute about 80 percent of people oppose sex-selective abortions.
Even as he stakes out the outer edge of the abortion debate, the president sounds soothing. He has said he wants to discourage the practice. Uh-huh. He is as serious about discouraging abortion as he was about opposing gay marriage up until a few months ago. Which is to say laughably disingenuous. How many other things does the president want to discourage but not restrict in any fashion and to fund with federal dollars?
The fact is that the right to abortion is at the heart of contemporary liberalism. Roe v. Wade is liberalism’s Great Writ. Nancy Pelosi considers the right to abortion more sacrosanct than the First Amendment. She would never tamper with or restrict the former; she wants to amend the latter to allow for more campaign-finance regulations.
Source: Obama the abortion extremist
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Prayer Warrior
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Show us where I said that Obama asserting equality under the law offended me, or where I objected to Obama asserting equality under the law! Quote me!!!
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Prayer Warrior
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In his politically-charged speech at John Lewis's funeral, Obama mentioned the Voting Rights Act. Here's what BET has to say about it.
Hmmm, if Congress can overrule the Supreme Court on this matter (even though SCOTUS rulings are considered the "supreme law of the land"), this means that Congress CAN overrule Roe v. Wade, and they can overrule the Supreme Court decision that is said to have legalized gay marriage....
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John Lewis Voting Rights Act Measure Introduced by Rep. Jim Clyburn
The provision would restore a part of the Voting Rights Act that was stripped away in 2013
Written by Madison J. Gray
Rep. Jim Clyburn, the South Carolina legislature and House Majority Whip introduced a bill Monday (July 27), to rename legislation to restore a provision in the Voting Rights Act for the late congressman John Lewis. The House approved the proposal after it was presented.
"Congressman Clyburn is offering legislation to rename H.R. 4 The John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act tomorrow. The name change is expected to pass by unanimous consent," Clyburn's spokeswoman, Hope Derrick, said in a statement on Sunday, according to CNN.
A 2013 Supreme Court decision allowed nine states to change their election laws without consulting the federal government. But the House bill, which was sponsored by Alabama Democratic Rep. Terri Sewell, would restore oversight over certain state jurisdictions so that voter suppression could be monitored.
The measure was passed in the House in December and would put back in place that part of the Voting Rights Act that the U.S. Supreme Court struck down in 2013. Democrats have wanted GOP lawmakers to join them in the restoration of the provision since Lewis’ passing July 17. However, the Senate has yet to take up the measure for a vote.
The provision would restore a part of the Voting Rights Act that was stripped away in 2013
Written by Madison J. Gray
Rep. Jim Clyburn, the South Carolina legislature and House Majority Whip introduced a bill Monday (July 27), to rename legislation to restore a provision in the Voting Rights Act for the late congressman John Lewis. The House approved the proposal after it was presented.
"Congressman Clyburn is offering legislation to rename H.R. 4 The John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act tomorrow. The name change is expected to pass by unanimous consent," Clyburn's spokeswoman, Hope Derrick, said in a statement on Sunday, according to CNN.
A 2013 Supreme Court decision allowed nine states to change their election laws without consulting the federal government. But the House bill, which was sponsored by Alabama Democratic Rep. Terri Sewell, would restore oversight over certain state jurisdictions so that voter suppression could be monitored.
The measure was passed in the House in December and would put back in place that part of the Voting Rights Act that the U.S. Supreme Court struck down in 2013. Democrats have wanted GOP lawmakers to join them in the restoration of the provision since Lewis’ passing July 17. However, the Senate has yet to take up the measure for a vote.
Hmmm, if Congress can overrule the Supreme Court on this matter (even though SCOTUS rulings are considered the "supreme law of the land"), this means that Congress CAN overrule Roe v. Wade, and they can overrule the Supreme Court decision that is said to have legalized gay marriage....
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Use your brain. What is being protested? Actually it's exactly what he told them, that the violence would not help thier cause ofWhat seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
"Wednesday night’s violence in a residential neighborhood on the east side of the city began after a group of about 100 people gathered in a nearby park for a rally advertised on social media by the group Pacific Northwest Youth Liberation Front with the slogan “No cops. No prisons. Total abolition." The group then marched to the precinct."What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
Meet the Youth Liberation Front behind a militant marathon of Portland protests
"In a podcast interview last October, three of their leaders, one of whom identified himself as still in high school, said they were spurred to activism over a range of issues that included climate change, law enforcement misconduct and the rise of right-wing hate groups."
Oops, they are not right wing hate groups, they are left wing anarchists. But you knew that.
Yeah he knows. I've posted other evidence if that. We too would be naive to believe there were no white supremacists there in all the mess. They hate cops too. We've got some in our area and they do not like the cops.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
Racism. But the issue is who's trying to disrupt those protests. And as you learned, it's white nationalists and accelerationist right-wing terrorists.
A group known as “accelerationists,” in particular, has seized on the pandemic. Online, they have advanced a raft of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and hateful propaganda accusing Jews and migrants of responsibility for starting and spreading the virus, respectively. Accelerationists believe that the social upheaval they promote, which is viewed as a necessary prelude that will usher in the rebuilding of society on the basis of white power, has been made plausible by the scenes of illness and death dominating mainstream news coverage.
...
Accelerationism is the most inherently violent and dangerous ideology circulating in the global white supremacist extremist movement. Accelerationists believe that a race war is not only inevitable, but desirable, as it is the only path to achieving white power by bringing about the downfall of current systems of government. Their beliefs are shaped in large part by James Mason’s Siege, which draws on Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and prominent American neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Accelerationists call for the expulsion or extermination of Jewish people, ethnic and racial minorities, and white “race traitors,” a category that includes race-mixing white women, academics, journalists, and politicians. Their online conversations are molded by a belief that other white supremacists are insufficiently extreme and that only violence directed against the political system can lead to the establishment of white power.
Accelerationists are especially dangerous because they believe an act of mass violence by a single individual (a “lone wolf”) or small cell can trigger their desired race war.
...
Accelerationism’s call for armed resistance by lone wolves in the name of hastening of an inevitable societal collapse has produced violent results. The manifestos of both Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest—who in 2019 perpetrated mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and a synagogue in Poway, California, respectively—espoused key concepts of accelerationism in describing their motivations or calling for further action. Other plots by accelerationist cells have been foiled, but reflected an intent to act towards similarly violent ends.
The Growing Threat Posed by Accelerationism and Accelerationist Groups Worldwide - Foreign Policy Research Institute
These are the people in the street, murdering police, inciting riots and burning buildings. It's why the FBI recognizes them as the most dangerous of terrorists in America.
No, he never said "their cause" or "your cause." He said that violence and destruction won't serve the cause of justice. He asked the actual protestors to avoid those areas, because violent people were trying to disrupt protests.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
Racism. But the issue is who's trying to disrupt those protests. And as you learned, it's white nationalists and accelerationist right-wing terrorists.
A group known as “accelerationists,” in particular, has seized on the pandemic. Online, they have advanced a raft of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and hateful propaganda accusing Jews and migrants of responsibility for starting and spreading the virus, respectively. Accelerationists believe that the social upheaval they promote, which is viewed as a necessary prelude that will usher in the rebuilding of society on the basis of white power, has been made plausible by the scenes of illness and death dominating mainstream news coverage.
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Accelerationism is the most inherently violent and dangerous ideology circulating in the global white supremacist extremist movement. Accelerationists believe that a race war is not only inevitable, but desirable, as it is the only path to achieving white power by bringing about the downfall of current systems of government. Their beliefs are shaped in large part by James Mason’s Siege, which draws on Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and prominent American neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Accelerationists call for the expulsion or extermination of Jewish people, ethnic and racial minorities, and white “race traitors,” a category that includes race-mixing white women, academics, journalists, and politicians. Their online conversations are molded by a belief that other white supremacists are insufficiently extreme and that only violence directed against the political system can lead to the establishment of white power.
Accelerationists are especially dangerous because they believe an act of mass violence by a single individual (a “lone wolf”) or small cell can trigger their desired race war.
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Accelerationism’s call for armed resistance by lone wolves in the name of hastening of an inevitable societal collapse has produced violent results. The manifestos of both Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest—who in 2019 perpetrated mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and a synagogue in Poway, California, respectively—espoused key concepts of accelerationism in describing their motivations or calling for further action. Other plots by accelerationist cells have been foiled, but reflected an intent to act towards similarly violent ends.
The Growing Threat Posed by Accelerationism and Accelerationist Groups Worldwide - Foreign Policy Research Institute
These are the people in the street, murdering police, inciting riots and burning buildings. It's why the FBI recognizes them as the most dangerous of terrorists in America.
No, he never said "their cause" or "your cause." He said that violence and destruction won't serve the cause of justice. He asked the actual protestors to avoid those areas, because violent people were trying to disrupt protests.
What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?
I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.
Yep.
States can write their own civil rights laws. And that bypasses the issue the Supreme Court addressed in allowing voter suppression laws in some states. And Congress is free to restrict voter suppression in all states, as long as it passes Constitutional restrictions. So it's a matter of making sure the law meets those restrictions while still allowing all qualified citizens to vote.
Probably infuriates the right, but it's perfectly legal. It doesn't seem to me, that allowing all qualified citizens to vote, is a radical idea, either.
Can you cite anything at all in Obama's speech that actually is radical?
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Hey Yehren!
Remember me? You were avoiding me again like you always do. I'm over here on the other thread (Posts #96 - 103).
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