Trump reacts to firestorm over suggestion of election delay

[Yehren]

Yehren smiles:
You guys can never decide whether democrats want to have Marxism or anarchy.

They want to have both.

Not possible. Diametrically opposed. Try again. Just get your story straight and stick to it.

So we have a mix of Socialist/Communist/Marxist/Racist/Anarchist/Bolshevist operating in America. It is no longer either/or. Their tactics are a mix of every evil political tactic. Plus Alinsky's Rules. And the guy funding these DOMESTIC TERRORISTS is an ex-Nazi Jew.

(We all knew that eventually, they'd blurt out the real target)

“Jewish intellectual movements,” MacDonald argues, are led by charismatic figures analogous to rabbis. They attack white nationalism while promoting Jewish nationalism, and use pseudoscience to “pathologize” anti-Semitism, which in reality is a justified response to “Jewish aggression.” According to MacDonald, Jewish intellectual movements include Freudianism, Frankfurt School critical theory, and multiculturalism. These movements, MacDonald claims, taught white gentiles to reject ethnocentrism and accept high levels of nonwhite immigration to their countries while tolerating Jewish ethnocentrism and racially restrictive immigration policies in Israel.

MacDonald’s theory and the anti-Semitism of many on the alt-right are largely reactions to the perceived liberalism of Jews. One of us (Cofnas) has just published an academic paper that examines MacDonald’s most influential book, The Culture of Critique, and finds that it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history. MacDonald and the alt-righters are, nevertheless, correct that many liberal leaders over the last hundred years have been Jewish. We’d like to offer an explanation for this phenomenon, as well as determine whether Jewish liberalism is the cause or the result of anti-Semitism.
What the Alt-Right Gets Wrong About Jews - Quillette

 

[Yehren]

And as the most pro-abortion president in history, he has no business aligning himself with God's Word!

Well, that title would belong to someone who was willing to actually abort his own child.

Washington—President Donald Trump asked a woman with whom he was having an extramarital affair in May of 2012, to get an abortion when he thought she might be pregnant, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

The Dallas Morning News said it obtained text messages between the president and the woman, who wrote on May 3 of that year: “Donny, you’ve been parading your pro-life stance all over the place but you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child when you thought it would be bad for you.”

The president allegedly wrote back, “While I don’t think it’s mine, I really don’t. I can’t prove it, but I bet you’ve had a lot of sex. Anyway, I’ll send you a thou to get rid of it.”

In 2012, Donald Trump, not yet president, was married to Melania Trump and their son, Barron, was six.
https://friedmanoftheplains.com/donald-trump-admits-to-paying-for-abortion-1c4ae9832770

 

[Yehren]

White wing terrorists and white supremacists...do they haunt your dreams or stupors.

You'd have to ask the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. I'm just showing you what they found.

Videos please in the real world.

This might be hard for you to accept, but You Tube isn't the real world. Sometimes it reflects reality; sometimes it doesn't. Learn to find reliable sources, like law enforcement agencies, and you'll be harder to fool.

 

[Grailhunter]

You'd have to ask the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. I'm just showing you what they found.



This might be hard for you to accept, but You Tube isn't the real world. Sometimes it reflects reality; sometimes it doesn't. Learn to find reliable sources, like law enforcement agencies, and you'll be harder to fool.

lol Who needs the news, internet, or Youtube when you live your own little reality show.

 

[Yehren]

In response to a suggestion, I'm putting a few of the more excitable people here, on "ignore" to maybe bring down the level of anger and frustration. While I'm not trying to upset anyone, I'm often way too blunt, it obviously didn't play well with a few people.

Hopefully that will help a bit. Let's see how it goes for a few weeks.

 

[Giuliano]

In response to a suggestion, I'm putting a few of the more excitable people here, on "ignore" to maybe bring down the level of anger and frustration. While I'm not trying to upset anyone, I'm often way too blunt, it obviously didn't play well with a few people.

Hopefully that will help a bit. Let's see how it goes for a few weeks.

What a coincidence. I had been thinking about sending you a private message suggesting that. When people are too wound up, logic doesn't work. It can make them feel more threatened.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Well, that title would belong to someone who was willing to actually abort his own child.

Washington—President Donald Trump asked a woman with whom he was having an extramarital affair in May of 2012, to get an abortion when he thought she might be pregnant, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

The Dallas Morning News said it obtained text messages between the president and the woman, who wrote on May 3 of that year: “Donny, you’ve been parading your pro-life stance all over the place but you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child when you thought it would be bad for you.”

The president allegedly wrote back, “While I don’t think it’s mine, I really don’t. I can’t prove it, but I bet you’ve had a lot of sex. Anyway, I’ll send you a thou to get rid of it.”

In 2012, Donald Trump, not yet president, was married to Melania Trump and their son, Barron, was six.
https://friedmanoftheplains.com/donald-trump-admits-to-paying-for-abortion-1c4ae9832770

I commented on Obama’s policies, but as usual, you launched a personal attack instead of commenting on policy! Sounds like a lot of gossip. I would think that as a Catholic, you would oppose such extreme pro-abortion politicians as Obama.

 

[Grailhunter]

In response to a suggestion, I'm putting a few of the more excitable people here, on "ignore" to maybe bring down the level of anger and frustration. While I'm not trying to upset anyone, I'm often way too blunt, it obviously didn't play well with a few people.

Hopefully that will help a bit. Let's see how it goes for a few weeks.

It really don't matter because I am really not talking to you, I am warning people about you.

 

[Yehren]

What a coincidence. I had been thinking about sending you a private message suggesting that. When people are too wound up, logic doesn't work. It can make them feel more threatened.

Yep. I don't mind a vigorous argument, but when it starts hurting other people's feelings, and escalating so that it's more about participants and less about the issues, that's time to give it a time out.

Let's see if this calms things down a bit.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

In response to a suggestion, I'm putting a few of the more excitable people here, on "ignore" to maybe bring down the level of anger and frustration. While I'm not trying to upset anyone, I'm often way too blunt, it obviously didn't play well with a few people.

Hopefully that will help a bit. Let's see how it goes for a few weeks.

Putting words in person's mouth (i.e. misrepresenting what a person has said) is not just a matter of being blunt. It's lying!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You guys can never decide whether democrats want to have Marxism or anarchy.

Anarchy is the Marxists' M.O. for bringing in the "change" they want.

Maximilien Rubel 1973

Marx, theoretician of anarchism

Marxism as the ideology of a master class has succeeded in emptying the concepts of socialism and communism, as Marx and his forerunners understood them, of their original meaning and has replaced it with the picture of a reality which is its complete negation. Although closely linked to the other two, a third concept – anarchism – seems however to have escaped this fate of becoming a mystification. But while people know that Marx had very little sympathy for certain anarchists, it is not so generally known that despite this he still shared the anarchist ideal and objectives: the disappearance of the State. It is therefore pertinent to recall that in embracing the cause of working class emancipation, Marx started off in the anarchist tradition rather than in that of socialism or communism; and that, when finally he chose to call himself a “communist,” for him this term did not refer to one of the communist currents which then existed, but rather to a movement of thought and mode of action which had yet to be founded by gathering together all the revolutionary elements which had been inherited from existing doctrines and from the experience of past struggles.

In the reflections which follow we will try to show that, under the name communism, Marx developed a theory of anarchism; and further, that in fact it was he who was the first to provide a rational basis for the anarchist utopia and to put forward a project for achieving it. In view of the limited scope of the present essay we will only put this forward as an item for discussion. Proof by means of quotations will be reduced to a minimum so as to better bring out the central argument: Marx theoretician of anarchism.

Source: Marx, theoretician of anarchism by Maximilien Rubel​

 

[Grailhunter]

Anarchy is the Marxists' M.O. for bringing in the "change" they want.

Maximilien Rubel 1973

Marx, theoretician of anarchism

Marxism as the ideology of a master class has succeeded in emptying the concepts of socialism and communism, as Marx and his forerunners understood them, of their original meaning and has replaced it with the picture of a reality which is its complete negation. Although closely linked to the other two, a third concept – anarchism – seems however to have escaped this fate of becoming a mystification. But while people know that Marx had very little sympathy for certain anarchists, it is not so generally known that despite this he still shared the anarchist ideal and objectives: the disappearance of the State. It is therefore pertinent to recall that in embracing the cause of working class emancipation, Marx started off in the anarchist tradition rather than in that of socialism or communism; and that, when finally he chose to call himself a “communist,” for him this term did not refer to one of the communist currents which then existed, but rather to a movement of thought and mode of action which had yet to be founded by gathering together all the revolutionary elements which had been inherited from existing doctrines and from the experience of past struggles.

In the reflections which follow we will try to show that, under the name communism, Marx developed a theory of anarchism; and further, that in fact it was he who was the first to provide a rational basis for the anarchist utopia and to put forward a project for achieving it. In view of the limited scope of the present essay we will only put this forward as an item for discussion. Proof by means of quotations will be reduced to a minimum so as to better bring out the central argument: Marx theoretician of anarchism.

Source: Marx, theoretician of anarchism by Maximilien Rubel​

Did you use a scope to hit that dead on or was that just pure talent!

 

[Giuliano]

You know what amazes me is how we have so many people here who had studied Marxism so intensely. When I was in high school, I tried to read Marx' Das Kapital just to see what it was about. Couldn't get through it. Kudos then to the great intellects here who read it and understand it.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You know what amazes me is how we have so many people here who had studied Marxism so intensely. When I was in high school, I tried to read Marx' Das Kapital just to see what it was about. Couldn't get through it. Kudos then to the great intellects here who read it and understand it.

I don't know how old you are, but when I was in school, we were taught the evils of Communism, and this included learning the theories of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc., the architects of Communism.

 

[rjs330]

What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?



Racism. But the issue is who's trying to disrupt those protests. And as you learned, it's white nationalists and accelerationist right-wing terrorists.
A group known as “accelerationists,” in particular, has seized on the pandemic. Online, they have advanced a raft of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and hateful propaganda accusing Jews and migrants of responsibility for starting and spreading the virus, respectively. Accelerationists believe that the social upheaval they promote, which is viewed as a necessary prelude that will usher in the rebuilding of society on the basis of white power, has been made plausible by the scenes of illness and death dominating mainstream news coverage.
...
Accelerationism is the most inherently violent and dangerous ideology circulating in the global white supremacist extremist movement. Accelerationists believe that a race war is not only inevitable, but desirable, as it is the only path to achieving white power by bringing about the downfall of current systems of government. Their beliefs are shaped in large part by James Mason’s Siege, which draws on Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and prominent American neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Accelerationists call for the expulsion or extermination of Jewish people, ethnic and racial minorities, and white “race traitors,” a category that includes race-mixing white women, academics, journalists, and politicians. Their online conversations are molded by a belief that other white supremacists are insufficiently extreme and that only violence directed against the political system can lead to the establishment of white power.

Accelerationists are especially dangerous because they believe an act of mass violence by a single individual (a “lone wolf”) or small cell can trigger their desired race war.
...
Accelerationism’s call for armed resistance by lone wolves in the name of hastening of an inevitable societal collapse has produced violent results. The manifestos of both Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest—who in 2019 perpetrated mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and a synagogue in Poway, California, respectively—espoused key concepts of accelerationism in describing their motivations or calling for further action. Other plots by accelerationist cells have been foiled, but reflected an intent to act towards similarly violent ends.
The Growing Threat Posed by Accelerationism and Accelerationist Groups Worldwide - Foreign Policy Research Institute

These are the people in the street, murdering police, inciting riots and burning buildings. It's why the FBI recognizes them as the most dangerous of terrorists in America.



No, he never said "their cause" or "your cause." He said that violence and destruction won't serve the cause of justice. He asked the actual protestors to avoid those areas, because violent people were trying to disrupt protests.

What seems to have you upset is that I'm comparing those to the murders, arson, and rioting by right wing terrorists. Which as you know, has been shown by the FBI to be the most dangerous of terrorist groups. As you know, they've been murdering police and burning buildings, blaming BLM. Would you like me to show you, again?

I notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.



Yep.

Are these guys white supremacists?

https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/P...p-content/uploads/2019/06/blm-riot.jpg.cf.jpg

How about these guys.

https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/P...06/01140041/GettyImages-1215982507.jpg.cf.jpg

Or these guys.

https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/n...dia/2020/06/paris-protests-640x480.jpg.cf.jpg

Oh maybe these guys are all white supremacists.

You are full of nonsense. Why won't you admit that theses people who are rioting and causing damage are primarily leftists. And if you think white supremacists are part of that, okay. Let's just say that white supremacists are accelerants. Are these other people all just completely innocent then? Or are they willing participants. And are all the Antifa folks in Portland all white supremacists? I doubt it. So what is it that is keeping you from admitting that the majority of this stuff are leftists?

Do you see the video from Chicago? That was a mass organization and they attacked the police. All white supremacists? Or mostly leftists BLM supporters? It's obvious they are the later.

 

[Renniks]

notice he didn't say it was BLM or any other group that was doing it. You seem to have made my point for me.

You ignored the fact that this article said it was the youth liberation front rioting.
You are good at ignoring inconvenience Truth.
" Black power" is just as racist as white power, BTW. I'm not supporting either.

 

[rjs330]

I don't know how old you are, but when I was in school, we were taught the evils of Communism, and this included learning the theories of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc., the architects of Communism.

Yeah me too. It's now called "The Red Scare" by leftists in an effort to minimize the concerns of those who were worried about Communism and Marxism.

And now marxist philosophy is well accepted by many on the left. It used to be they were only "Democratic Socialists", but many are now fully embracing marxism. Like BLM.

 

[rjs330]

Yehren smiles:
You guys can never decide whether democrats want to have Marxism or anarchy.



Not possible. Diametrically opposed. Try again. Just get your story straight and stick to it.



(We all knew that eventually, they'd blurt out the real target)

“Jewish intellectual movements,” MacDonald argues, are led by charismatic figures analogous to rabbis. They attack white nationalism while promoting Jewish nationalism, and use pseudoscience to “pathologize” anti-Semitism, which in reality is a justified response to “Jewish aggression.” According to MacDonald, Jewish intellectual movements include Freudianism, Frankfurt School critical theory, and multiculturalism. These movements, MacDonald claims, taught white gentiles to reject ethnocentrism and accept high levels of nonwhite immigration to their countries while tolerating Jewish ethnocentrism and racially restrictive immigration policies in Israel.

MacDonald’s theory and the anti-Semitism of many on the alt-right are largely reactions to the perceived liberalism of Jews. One of us (Cofnas) has just published an academic paper that examines MacDonald’s most influential book, The Culture of Critique, and finds that it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history. MacDonald and the alt-righters are, nevertheless, correct that many liberal leaders over the last hundred years have been Jewish. We’d like to offer an explanation for this phenomenon, as well as determine whether Jewish liberalism is the cause or the result of anti-Semitism.
What the Alt-Right Gets Wrong About Jews - Quillette

Some of the left wants Marxism and some want anarchy. Some want Democratic Socialism. There are many flavors on the left. Just like there are many flavors on the right. The problem we are seeing right now is the more moderate Democrats are being overshadowed by the radicals. And not only that, but they are caving to them and excusing them and defending them. Some, for the sake of power are even joining them.

 

[Yehren]

Some of the left wants Marxism and some want anarchy. Some want Democratic Socialism. There are many flavors on the left. Just like there are many flavors on the right. The problem we are seeing right now is the more moderate Democrats are being overshadowed by the radicals.

Which is why socialist Joe outmaneuvered moderate Bernie to win the nomination?

Umm...

 

[Yehren]

You ignored the fact that this article said it was the youth liberation front rioting.

But not BLM? You seem to be making my argument for me.