What Keeps Us From Sinning In Heaven?

[Giuliano]

If you neglect to comprehend what I post, I cannot help you

As to the continuous ad hominems it tells me and others that you are incapable of having a civil discussion. I refuse to deal with boorish behavior.

I tell you I won't accept something that isn't scriptural and you call that a ad hominem attack? What? Then you suggest I was behaving boorishly? This is very strange considering your comments to Byrd.

 

[ChristisGod]

I tell you I won't accept something that isn't scriptural and you call that a ad hominem attack? What? Then you suggest I was behaving boorishly? This is very strange considering your comments to Byrd.

unscriptural by whose standards ?

yours ?
your denomination ?

 

[Giuliano]

is this what you are talking about below from the previous page :


"I don't know what you mean by "the inductive bible study method."

I read the Bible alertly, thinking every word is important. Even singular and plural are important. If I run across something that doesn't jive with my beliefs, I figure I could easily be wrong. Maybe I interpreted something else wrong before. Maybe I adopted a teaching or tradition of men that needs to be corrected. I read the Bible to find out where I could be wrong. "

Yes, that's it. If all scripture is profitable for correction, why wouldn't we read it to be corrected? We're making progress when we see which of our ideas are not possible. The more untruths eliminate, the closer we come to the truth. It is like refining silver. Burn away the dross of the human mind with its mistaken ideas of Scripture to get the pure silver of the words of the LORD.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

 

[Giuliano]

unscriptural by whose standards ?

yours ?
your denomination ?

When I ask for scriptural basis and am told by someone he doesn't have any, he's said so himself.

Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

 

[Giuliano]

By the way, anyone got any idea what keeps us from sinning in Heaven?

What mistake did Eve make? What mistake did Adam make? What would have been different if Adam and Eve had not hearkened to other voices but to God's?

Moses told Israel -- and this was before the Bible was written down:

Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

David wrote this before any of the New Testament was around:

Psalm 95:7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

The "new covenant" involves the circumcision of our hearts so we can hear His Voice and hear it correctly.

Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

 

[bbyrd009]

By the way, anyone got any idea what keeps us from sinning in Heaven?

the kingdom of heaven is within you
Proverbs 19:11 Lexicon: A man's discretion makes him slow to anger, And it is his glory to overlook a transgression.

so, what keeps 3 year olds from sinning right now, iyo?

 

[BarneyFife]

Which denomination or church group is God's favorite one?

That's easy: Mine. lol lol

 

[amadeus]

That's easy: Mine. lol lol

Carry on then until He, the One who never changes, changes His mind!

 

[BarneyFife]

Some people after a while with God's help come to understand you in part my friend. Others depending perhaps too much on themselves and their knowledge of the Bible and certain embraced doctrines have trouble seeing who you are because you are not in the same place they are. What kind of vision is that?

For the benefit of anyone else reading this, I am talking about @bbyrd009 and I don't believe he minds that too much if it might help someone learn to communicate with him. Unfortunately some people here carry on quite a few one-sided conversations. Who has ears to hear them? Does God hear them?

Which denomination or church group is God's favorite one?

I think @bbyrd009 is too cool for school.

 

[BarneyFife]

the kingdom of heaven is within you
Proverbs 19:11 Lexicon: A man's discretion makes him slow to anger, And it is his glory to overlook a transgression.

so, what keeps 3 year olds from sinning right now, iyo?

Nothing. They sin constantly.

 

[amadeus]

I think @bbyrd009 is too cool for school.

I know that more than one has written him off as a non-Christian. Sometimes I think that I understand a little how Jesus must have felt when he asked his closest followers. "Will ye also go away?" John 6:67

How many actually love where they are standing now more than the Truth? How much Truth can we see now? How many or few are moving steading away from "through a glass darkly" while steadily approaching the "face to face" of I Cor 13:12?

How many have no real vision at all, while bearing the label, Christian?

 

[Nancy]

so, despite all that i would suggest forgiveness, ok;
no believer will ever be comfortable hearig that they are actually Esau i guess

fwiw i always put Scripture in italics tho, and best wishes to you new guys in your walk ok
you are in a diff kind of forum now, and i have grown a lot here, myself

"and i have grown a lot here, myself"
Me too Mark

 

[Nancy]

lol, priceless
you are def in the right place i guess
have a good day ok

 

[john t]

Piety is a virtue, you know.

Incorrect assumption.

I posted an adjective "pious" describing the noun "pablum".

Your response created a noun, "piety" describing a state of existence. Therefore your reply was really off topic.

 

[Brakelite]

Your post assumes much; all of it wrong, and some of insulting

dogmatic? Hardly. God did not stutter when His servants write Scripture. He said what he means, and means what he says. Evidently, you may not like that, but that is irrelevant.

All of us will be judged by what we have done with what He revealed; thus there is no way that any can get away with the excuse "No one taught me the Gospel, and get into heaven without being saved:

Romans 2:
1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things.
2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who do such things.
3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who do such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?
4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?
5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.
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MY AGE IS IRRELEVANT!

I WAS NEVER BOOTED FROM CF, my posting history on other boards is likewise IRRELEVANT. I am here.

Apparently, our definitions of "context" differ. I suggest you go to dictionary.com.

Should we be addressing you as 'your holiness'?

 

[BarneyFife]

Incorrect assumption.

I posted an adjective "pious" describing the noun "pablum".

Your response created a noun, "piety" describing a state of existence. Therefore your reply was really off topic.

Yes, I know all of that stuff and you made an incorrect assumption that I don't know parts of speech. I'm suggesting that the term "pious pablum" is an oxymoron, but I'm sure you'll find some loophole to divest yourself of any impropriety. So, please, proceed to embarrass yourself, since you don't seem content to have it any other way. You're becoming quite a bore, BTW.

3 Ways to Stop Being a Bore - wikiHow

 

[john t]

Should we be addressing you as 'your holiness'?

So snarkiness is the proper response when confronted with a clear directive from Scripture?

You see, I am aware that y'all are upset at me because I insist in adherence to what Scripture says. In reality though, I am not your enemy. I am merely a messenger. Collectively, your anger is at God, and what He said in His Bible.

It is y'all, not me who will need to explain at the Judgment Seat your open contempt for the Bible, and what God says in it, not me.

 

[john t]

by John]Incorrect assumption.

I posted an adjective "pious" describing the noun "pablum".

Your response created a noun, "piety" describing a state of existence. Therefore your reply was really off topic.

<<SNIP>>

In dealing with Scripture, especially in the NT it is important to have a modicum of understanding of grammar. It carries over to common English writing, also.

 

[ChristisGod]

In dealing with Scripture, especially in the NT it is important to have a modicum of understanding of grammar. It carries over to common English writing, also.

Amazing how that gets overlooked by many lol.

 

[BarneyFife]

So snarkiness is the proper response when confronted with a clear directive from Scripture?

You see, I am aware that y'all are upset at me because I insist in adherence to what Scripture says. In reality though, I am not your enemy. I am merely a messenger. Collectively, your anger is at God, and what He said in His Bible.

It is y'all, not me who will need to explain at the Judgment Seat your open contempt for the Bible, and what God says in it, not me.

People on this forum generally respond to Scripture presentation. Just not yours so much. Could it possibly be that the problem we have is not with your Scripture references at all? After all, most, if not all of us have read the verses before. Scripture is not all that you're presenting. Is it remotely conceivable to you that it might be the manner in which you present your case that is so objectional? Haven't you been in enough forums to realize that you can't just barge into a new (to you) forum and start throwing around weight that you do not yet possess? It is a hard lesson I've learned that truth is truth even when mean people say it. But can you not see that rudeness is not very influential in a place where friendliness looms largely and often prevails? I've already had fairly heated arguments with folks who have later on "liked" my posts. Am I getting through at all? Or do you already have me on |Ignore|? lol