A Prophetic Word

[Hidden In Him]

No, I wouldn’t consider myself a futurist. I believe Israel has been redeemed. I don’t look for a rebuilt physical temple or individual called Antichrist.

Ok. Too much to get into here, but I just thought I'd ask if I was hearing you correctly or not.

God bless.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... We still have a good ways to go yet. ...

... "little" ways ..., as I understand the timeline, -- maybe 8 - 10 months until the Mark of the Beast, and some additional 5 months until Global Thermonuclear:

2 Pter 3:6 through which the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. 7 But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.​

Bobby Jo

 

[Heart2Soul]

She's no ostentatious Benny Hinn or Osteen, as of yet, but again, all these allegations of prophecy has gained her some notoriety. She's on YouTube, and HeartToSoul and others, appear to be following her. You can't judge her heart by what she's wearing, despite how mild-mannered that she may appear.
I think that she's either delusional or a fake. I think that she has a lot of nerve defining God in this way.
No, this has nothing to do with Cessationism, I am a Continuist, ...but people like her give an extremely bad name to Continuists..

I am not following her... as I said a friend of mine on Facebook shared it with me and this is the first time I have seen or heard of her.
Her message is a simple one....a call to repentance....and the unity of the church.
No matter how you dissect it.. it still ends up with those 2 simple messages.

 

[LC627]

You might study the Bible a little more...because even the real prophets missed it occasionally. But the ones that kept missing it God shut their mouths so they couldn't prophesy anymore.
The kind of statement like the one you made is a pure lack of wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of the Power of the Holy Spirit to manifest and speak through God's vessels.
The saddest part is this false statement gets spread to others who are still trying to learn.
I thank God I didn't have a teacher like this. My teacher was and is and will always be the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
God Bless

Stating that prophets in the Bible "missed it" only gives people today the chance to back-up false teachers. "Hey, even those in the Bible got it wrong, so cut these folks some slack." That just feeds false teaching. When Elijah said it was not going to rain until he said so, it didn't! When Kenneth Copeland "Blew the wind of God" on COVID-19 it didn't do anything.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Stating that prophets in the Bible "missed it" only gives people today the chance to back-up false teachers. ...

Perhaps you missed where if we SILENCE the FALSE Prophets, we also SILENCE the TRUE Prophets; and 1 Cor. 14 says to ALLOW THE PROPHETS TO SPEAK and let the others JUDGE.

Conversely, we can listen to the scoffers, -- and I'd rather not listen to THEM.
Bobby Jo

 

[LC627]

But we answered this for you. You are missing plenty because you willingly associated yourself with people operating in false gifts when you should have known better, and now you are associating yourself with false beliefs because you should still know better. Your history by your own admission is of someone who has allowed himself to be deceived, and yet you don't see that you still could be. :

You know, I've noticed something about you HIH. When the conversation doesn't go your way you have a way of turning it around on the other person, questioning their character, etc. That is called manipulation. Not to mention you failed to reply to my previous reply to you, about context in scripture and jumped right to this calling me deceived. Hmm...

1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

 

[DNB]

I am not following her... as I said a friend of mine on Facebook shared it with me and this is the first time I have seen or heard of her.
Her message is a simple one....a call to repentance....and the unity of the church.
No matter how you dissect it.. it still ends up with those 2 simple messages.

But that's not prophetical by definition, that's just reading Scripture. Like I said, had she kept God out of it, meaning that she claims that He allegedly intervened in her dreams and visions, I would've said bravo. But instead, she had to bring Him into it when, like you said, it was just a simple point that she brought to the table, nothing equivalent to divine inspiration. This is where my contention and indignation lies. If one wants to cite Scripture, go for it, bravo. But if you want to defame God with such non-revelatory vision, then I say shame on those that do.

 

[Hidden In Him]

You know, I've noticed something about you HIH. When the conversation doesn't go your way you have a way of turning it around on the other person, questioning their character, etc.

But you said you weren't missing anything, and that's where I think you are. I'm not averse to receiving correction, but I was giving you an honest response there. I'm not questioning your character in the sense of morality. I'm simply questioning your judgment in respect to thinking you are not missing anything, because to receive bad examples of something and then assume you've received good ones is to operate under a false presumption. But I actually think your character is quite good.

Not to mention you failed to reply to my previous reply to you, about context in scripture and jumped right to this calling me deceived. Hmm...

Yeah, my apologies. I looked at it, but I didn't know that there was enough there to get into it with you. But if you want, maybe I can take a look tomorrow. It had to have been on Page 6 or earlier, because just finding the quote you were referring for this post took me all the way back to P.7. Active thread.

 

[Heart2Soul]

But that's not prophetical by definition, that's just reading Scripture. Like I said, had she kept God out of it, meaning that she claims that He allegedly intervened in her dreams and visions, I would've said bravo. But instead, she had to bring Him into it when, like you said, it was just a simple point that she brought to the table, nothing equivalent to divine inspiration. This is where my contention and indignation lies. If one wants to cite Scripture, go for it, bravo. But if you want to defame God with such non-revelatory vision, then I say shame on those that do.

That is your p.o.v. and your beliefs....
I disagree with your ideology and theology.
Nevertheless, I thank you for your input.

 

[YeshuaFan1]

It's a general principle that the false precedes the true. The reason is because Satan knows what is coming, so he often attempts to preempt it by presenting perverse versions in advance, so that when the real thing arrives it will be rejected.

except he has been doing this since 1906 big time!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

I'm not really into bashing anyone . . . something about glass houses I once heard . . .

False teachers and False prophets must be exposed, as per the Apostles and Jesus Himself said!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

Feel free, LoL!

I think I've only had a few people call me that directly, although I've had it insinuated several times. After awhile you just get used to it. :) Besides, I don't identify as one anyway. So far as I understand it, not everyone who prophesies holds the office of prophet anyway (1 Corinthians 14:31).


The primary messages being communicated to the church, i.e. "what the Spirit is saying to the churches" in our time, are as follows:

1. The reality of Hell, and warnings against superficial Christianity
2. The coming judgment upon the false church
3. The coming rise of the army of God, in great works of power
4. Incredible darkness descending upon the world, and incredible light arising within the church.
5. The coming persecution and martyrdom of the saints.

Number 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all still ahead of us, so any talk of "the final revelation" (if by that you mean His return as mentioned in the apocalypse) is still way premature. We still have a good ways to go yet.

Not sure if that answered your question or not, but hey. What can you expect from a false prophet, LoL.

A;; pf that was already recorded down to us i the scriptures though, and think that we are being duped by false teachers and prophets saying that we in the Church shall be as almost gods in end times, where truth is that we will be killed and persecuted for the faith!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

Regarding eschatology, are you a futurist? The last several Chapters of Isaiah are Messianic, and refer to the literal kingdom of God becoming a reality on earth and being established in the land of Israel.

Jesus will be coming back to restore israel and to set up his Kingdom here on earth!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

That is your p.o.v. and your beliefs....
I disagree with your ideology and theology.
Nevertheless, I thank you for your input.

The point is valid, as one can say I think this is what scriptures are saying, but do not say God Himself told me that!

 

[marks]

False teachers and False prophets must be exposed, as per the Apostles and Jesus Himself said!

However . . .

its in Pentecostal and Charismatic circles

You were not "exposing false teachers and false prophets", more impugning a movement or denomination. That's what I object to.

Much love!

 

[Bobby Jo]

False teachers and False prophets must be exposed, as per the Apostles and Jesus Himself said!

Ummmmmmm, according to 1Cor. 14, -- I CAN JUDGE FOR MYSELF. And while it's important to have a conversation, your perception may not coincide with other people's. And if you ARE a Prophecy Expert, then I would anticipate that you could answer a few questions regarding Bible Prophecy, -- and I'd like to have that validation!

Bobby Jo

 

[YeshuaFan1]

However . . .



You were not "exposing false teachers and false prophets", more impugning a movement or denomination. That's what I object to.

Much love!

Not all of them are bad, but there are really many wolves loose among the flock in their midst!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

Ummmmmmm, according to 1Cor. 14, -- I CAN JUDGE FOR MYSELF. And while it's important to have a conversation, your perception may not coincide with other people's. And if you ARE a Prophecy Expert, then I would anticipate that you could answer a few questions regarding Bible Prophecy, -- and I'd like to have that validation!

Bobby Jo

By their fruit we shall know them, and in their lifestyles and in their theology, many of them have rotten fruit!

 

[Bobby Jo]

By their fruit ...

Right now I'm not questioning THEIR "fruit", but YOUR "fruit". So if you really are an SME (Subject Matter Expert), then answering a few questions should be WELCOMED by Every Teacher of TRUTH. But as of now, it appears you're DODGING any personal VALIDATION, which is what FALSE TEACHERS do.

So which are YOU?
Bobby Jo

 

[marks]

Not all of them are bad, but there are really many wolves loose among the flock in their midst!

So if that's the case, why generalize? Love hopes all things, does it not?

Much love!