The heart of the issue, picking up where the argument really begins:
entire sanctification is an obtainable goal.
entire sanctification is an obtainable goal.
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See 1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6.I thought luther taught justification by faith alone only imputed righteousness and that you remain unrighteousness?
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Works are never meritorious (see Isaiah 64:6).I agree by becoming a member of Christ thru baptism we are sanctified by His grace, and grace vivifies our good works making them meritorious! Titus 3:8
Do you not sin JBF?The heart of the issue, picking up where the argument really begins:
entire sanctification is an obtainable goal.
I only sin when I am not abiding in Christ.Do you not sin JBF?
Perhaps you are closer than you think. The negative thoughts come because sometimes of negative actions, but be slow to express them aloud to others for that admits to a negative faith. Remember what God saw in David when he had committed adultery and murder. It is in our hearts and our efforts and our purpose that God sees more so, I believe, than in what we consider failures. Don't dwell on any perceived failure, but dwell rather on the promises of God as you have when you posted the above verses:I only sin when I am not abiding in Christ.
I do believe that it is possible to abide in Christ consistently for the rest of one's life (1 John 2:17)...
As for whether I have succeeded in doing that...I have not...which does not necessarily speak of the future of my life.
For I believe that the Lord is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that I can ask or think...and this included setting me free from the power of sin so that I will not sin any more.
My faith in this has waned over time; because I have sought after this second benefit and have not obtained it: and I should have obtained it by now.
But, Mark 9:24 comes to mind...and Romans 4:20-22...so I will not give up.
Deuteronomy 4:29 and Jeremiah 29:13 also come to mind.
The Lord promises me that He will "sanctify me wholly" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24)...that He will "perfect me for ever" (Hebrews 10:14)...that He will place such a spirit in me that I "cannot sin" (1 John 3:9).
I also do not have to stumble or fall (Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10).
He is able to make me as righteous as He is righteous (1 John 3:7)...as pure as He is pure (1 John 3:3)....and to walk even as He walked (1 John 2:6).
Sorry, I believe that you're taking passages that are either referring to the Kingdom, or to the principle of Grace, out of context, and attempting to apply them to man's temporal walk on earth.I only sin when I am not abiding in Christ.
I do believe that it is possible to abide in Christ consistently for the rest of one's life (1 John 2:17)...
As for whether I have succeeded in doing that...I have not...which does not necessarily speak of the future of my life.
For I believe that the Lord is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that I can ask or think...and this included setting me free from the power of sin so that I will not sin any more.
My faith in this has waned over time; because I have sought after this second benefit and have not obtained it: and I should have obtained it by now.
But, Mark 9:24 comes to mind...and Romans 4:20-22...so I will not give up.
Deuteronomy 4:29 and Jeremiah 29:13 also come to mind.
The Lord promises me that He will "sanctify me wholly" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24)...that He will "perfect me for ever" (Hebrews 10:14)...that He will place such a spirit in me that I "cannot sin" (1 John 3:9).
I also do not have to stumble or fall (Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10).
He is able to make me as righteous as He is righteous (1 John 3:7)...as pure as He is pure (1 John 3:3)....and to walk even as He walked (1 John 2:6).
You can believe what you want to.Sorry, I believe that you're taking passages that are either referring to the Kingdom, or to the principle of Grace, out of context, and attempting to apply them to man's temporal walk on earth.
No, but do you contradict yourself?The context of any given scripture is never going to nullify the plain meaning of that scripture; for the Lord does not contradict Himself in what He has inspired to be written.
just think of the self righteousness of the pharisees Jesus rebuked in Matthew 23 and we have the fake sinless perfectionist cultists .No, but do you contradict yourself?
What does 'eat my flesh, and drink my blood' mean? Context does not override hyper-literalism?
Sinless perfection belongs in cloud cuckoo land. It is not necessary because we are already the righteousness of God in Christ and so we run the race toward the ultimate prize of the high calling of God in Christ which will happen when the dead in Christ will rise first, and those who are alive will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes. We will be changed in the twinkling of an eye when our mortality will be change to immortality.just think of the self righteousness of the pharisees Jesus rebuked in Matthew 23 and we have the fake sinless perfectionist cultists .
Jesus, of course, said in Matthew 23 that we need to cleanse the inside of the cup and platter so that the outside may also be clean.just think of the self righteousness of the pharisees Jesus rebuked in Matthew 23 and we have the fake sinless perfectionist cultists .
Not according to the kjv (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv)).Entire sanctification will happen when we rise up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes again.