The False Doctrine with key word "COVER"

[justbyfaith]

Her husband knows this is a lie.....if she has no husband, her friends know better....if she has no friends, at least God knows the Truth.....

My wife has said to me that she sees me as being pretty much perfect...

Perhaps you will say that love has made her blind...

I would say that she loves me for a reason.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

We need to stand where He stands. And God doesn't compromise the truth as men do. We either receive the real God or the very popular fake god of the fake gospel that has swept the world with it's popularity.

The Gospel is what God has done for Man — NOT what man does for God.Any “ Gospel” that requires ONE OUNCE of Human Merit is an “Accursed” one.....Believe those False Gospels Of “religion” or in other words, believe those False Gospels of Adding Works to the Shed Blood Of Jesus and you will “Fall from Grace” .....that would be bad enough, but to be a person that actually PREACHES a Perverted Gospel , saying that Jesus Shed Blood is “ Essential” for Salvation, But just not quite “ Adequate” for Salvation is “ Accursed” by God....

That is just a polite way to say they are going to Hell .....Most Churches out there are Full Of congregants that have Fallen From Grace — they do not know it— they don’t even know what the term means. They think it means to get caught in some kind of big sin— like Jimmy Swaggert. No. It means to essentially reject the Grace Of God and have the damnable mind-set that says “ Sure,Jesus Saves, BUT... ( add your favorite DEAD WORK here) .The most prevalent Addition to the Gospel would be this—- Of course Jesus Saves, BUT ya gotta repent of ALL of your sins before you die” or “Yeah, Jesus Saves, But once you know “that” you have to PROVE that you are Saved by Keeping all of the Commandments.....after all didn’t Jesus say “If you love me , you will keep My Commandments!” Indeed Jesus DID say that! Notice he did NOT say to keep theCommandments Of Moses.....He said “ MY” Commandments ......there are Two—— “ Believe and Love”..... concentrate on those two, and everything else will take care of itself.....Jesus always knew that and now you do too. REST in God's Love That is the Root Of The Gospel ..lf you are Adding to the Gospel,as opposed to RESTING in it , God declares you Guilty Of Disobedience and UNBELIEF .....Read the short Book Of Galatians and at least the third and fourth chapters of Hebrews if you think I am mistaken....yes, read it for yourselves—- chances are you ain’t gonna hear about this stuff in your local church......I know that I didn’t .......Vital stuff.......ignored by Jack Leg Preachers-who had no business preaching....and WE paid the price...

 

[CharismaticLady]

Her husband knows this is a lie.....if she has no husband, her friends know better....if she has no friends, at least God knows the Truth.....

I know you are just projecting on to me what you know about yourself. I forgive you. The Word of God is true for His children, whether you see it or not. 1 John 3:9; 1 John 5:18

 

[CharismaticLady]

Years after Paul had been Saved he declared, “I “AM” the Chief Of Sinners”......

That is a silly statement seeing as he was NO LONGER the chief of sinners. That was his former life. Read the passage again, but this time go back a few verses and read it in that context. Jesus saved him from that life.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

He knows that my thoughts are always of Him (as per Psalms 10:4 (kjv))...and that I rarely, if ever, have a lustful thought. I say this to you truly, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost.

James makes it clear.....you break one Law? You have broken them ALL......Why don’t you give it up and go the Way God WANTS you to go.....Grace......Grace Plus NOTHING.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I know you are just projecting on to me what you know about yourself. I forgive you. The Word of God is true for His children, whether you see it or not. 1 John 3:9; 1 John 5:18

Thanks for your “ Forgiveness”, God. I’ll place your phony forgiveness somewhere where the sun does not shine, and I am not talking about Scotland .......lol.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Old Testament Law.....Jesus lived under the Law .... He Preached under the Law...
The Cross changed everything .....we are already forgiven now from ALL of our sins ...The-impetus for us forgiving others is now based on our gratitude for being forgiven ourselves — not faking forgiveness because you think you are going to rot in hell if you don’t ....
The new attitude should be “ If God can save a Wretch like me—- why shouldn’t I forgive others....you do it because you WANT to and Not because you HAVE to.....like almost “ EVERYTHING” the Believer does that pleases God once he has received his NEW HEART.....it occurs Naturally when one lets God do His Work “ THROUGH” you.....a Reality you will never understand .....what a shame....you have to Live it to Understand it.....God calls it “ REST”..... what YOU got , God would call a “ brain full of religious Mush”...... too damned Stiff-Necked to learn from anybody....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That is a silly statement seeing as he was NO LONGER the chief of sinners. That was his former life. Read the passage again, but this time go back a few verses and read it in that context. Jesus saved him from that life.

If it was his “ former” life, why didn’t he say ,I “USED” to be the “Chief Of Sinners” . He didn’t say that though,did he ? Read the Bible as it is—- you try to make it say anything you want in a desperate attempt to justify your Hog Wash doctrines ...

 

[bbyrd009]

My wife has said to me that she sees me as being pretty much perfect...

Perhaps you will say that love has made her blind...

I would say that she loves me for a reason.

dunno if youre a Tom Waits fan? And unfortunately this copy has been sped up for some reason. Still a fave though

 

[bbyrd009]

The Gospel is what God has done for Man — NOT what man does for God.Any “ Gospel” that requires ONE OUNCE of Human Merit is an “Accursed” one.....Believe those False Gospels Of “religion” or in other words, believe those False Gospels of Adding Works to the Shed Blood Of Jesus and you will “Fall from Grace” .....that would be bad enough, but to be a person that actually PREACHES a Perverted Gospel , saying that Jesus Shed Blood is “ Essential” for Salvation, But just not quite “ Adequate” for Salvation is “ Accursed” by God....

That is just a polite way to say they are going to Hell .....Most Churches out there are Full Of congregants that have Fallen From Grace — they do not know it— they don’t even know what the term means. They think it means to get caught in some kind of big sin— like Jimmy Swaggert. No. It means to essentially reject the Grace Of God and have the damnable mind-set that says “ Sure,Jesus Saves, BUT... ( add your favorite DEAD WORK here) .The most prevalent Addition to the Gospel would be this—- Of course Jesus Saves, BUT ya gotta repent of ALL of your sins before you die” or “Yeah, Jesus Saves, But once you know “that” you have to PROVE that you are Saved by Keeping all of the Commandments.....after all didn’t Jesus say “If you love me , you will keep My Commandments!” Indeed Jesus DID say that! Notice he did NOT say to keep theCommandments Of Moses.....He said “ MY” Commandments ......there are Two—— “ Believe and Love”..... concentrate on those two, and everything else will take care of itself.....Jesus always knew that and now you do too. REST in God's Love That is the Root Of The Gospel ..lf you are Adding to the Gospel,as opposed to RESTING in it , God declares you Guilty Of Disobedience and UNBELIEF .....Read the short Book Of Galatians and at least the third and fourth chapters of Hebrews if you think I am mistaken....yes, read it for yourselves—- chances are you ain’t gonna hear about this stuff in your local church......I know that I didn’t .......Vital stuff.......ignored by Jack Leg Preachers-who had no business preaching....and WE paid the price...

id say
work to make your calling and election sure
anyway though, like just in case maybe?

 

[bbyrd009]

Again, if you believe you will always sin, you probably will. I know I am born again, so I don't. 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18

ha well what about the vv that say otherwise CL? And fwiw there is prolly a better interp of those two, i mean those are both pretty extreme interpretations?

Of course i am not real proud of it, but im pretty sure we are swimming in a sea of sin, and all we can do is try to not deliberately hurt others.

Thrown any plastic containers/trash away today?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

id say
work to make your calling and election sure
anyway though, like just in case maybe?

Kinda like putting one foot in Grace , but putting the other in Law, just for a little “ insurance”...Any degree of mixing works with Grace, automatically Nullifies the very Grace That Saves a person....God won’t have it....

 

[bbyrd009]

Kinda like putting one foot in Grace , but putting the other in Law, just for a little “ insurance”...Any degree of mixing works with Grace, automatically Nullifies the very Grace That Saves a person....God won’t have it....

then why the verse, iyo?
work to make your calling and election sure

although granted, doing nothing can be hard work sometimes i guess

 

[justbyfaith]

No. It means to essentially reject the Grace Of God and have the damnable mind-set that says “ Sure,Jesus Saves, BUT... ( add your favorite DEAD WORK here) .The most prevalent Addition to the Gospel would be this—- Of course Jesus Saves, BUT ya gotta repent of ALL of your sins before you die”

I think that Luke 13:1-5 and Matthew 3 speak for themselves on this.

or “Yeah, Jesus Saves, But once you know “that” you have to PROVE that you are Saved by Keeping all of the Commandments.....after all didn’t Jesus say “If you love me , you will keep My Commandments!” Indeed Jesus DID say that! Notice he did NOT say to keep theCommandments Of Moses.....He said “ MY” Commandments

Personally, I believe that the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are one and the same Person.

And you?

James makes it clear.....you break one Law? You have broken them ALL......Why don’t you give it up and go the Way God WANTS you to go.....Grace......Grace Plus NOTHING.....

Grace plus nothing is what has shed abroad the love of the Lord in my heart (Romans 5:5) so that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in me (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

Because I have the Spirit (through faith, Galatians 3:14), I bear the fruit of the Spirit; against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

This is a righteousness of God that is apart from the law, that is nevertheless attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21).

 

[justbyfaith]

ha well what about the vv that say otherwise CL?

What verses are those?

 

[bbyrd009]

What verses are those?

well if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves comes to mind immediately, but i can think of a range of vv that CL seems to be flirting with, at least imo, if you then, being evil, and through to if I testify of myself, my testimony is invalid even maybe?

 

[justbyfaith]

well if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves comes to mind immediately, but i can think of a range of vv that CL seems to be flirting with, at least imo, if you then, being evil, and through to if I testify of myself, my testimony is invalid even maybe?

The first one is referring to indwelling sin and not to practical sinning.

We all have indwelling sin; but that can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that the element of sin no longer has any authority over my behaviour (Romans 6:14).

The second is referring to what is written in Jeremiah 17:9; a situation that is remedied in Ezekiel 36:25-27 unto the remedy that we see in Luke 8:15 and Romans 15:14.

As for the third, Jesus kind of retracted that statement (John 5:31) later (John 8:14).

 

[Episkopos]

The Gospel is what God has done for Man — NOT what man does for God.

And the announcement of there being a Corona virus comes from disease control not us. It's ALL what they have done for us. But does that mean we are now immune from the virus because we "accept" it as true? Quite the opposite, we need to line up our lives with the announcement otherwise we have heard in vain. Likewise they who think the message itself brings salvation will not be protected from the object of the warnings. You should be aware of how superficial the kind of beliefs you espouse are. There is no superficiality with God.

Any “ Gospel” that requires ONE OUNCE of Human Merit is an “Accursed” one.....Believe those False Gospels Of “religion” or in other words, believe those False Gospels of Adding Works to the Shed Blood Of Jesus and you will “Fall from Grace” .....that would be bad enough, but to be a person that actually PREACHES a Perverted Gospel , saying that Jesus Shed Blood is “ Essential” for Salvation, But just not quite “ Adequate” for Salvation is “ Accursed” by God....

This proof of an indoctrination into the wildest kind of fantasy possible...and of a twisting of the gospel to serve a man IN his sinful ways.

Are you against repentance? Repentance is not something that God does for us. Maturity is not something God gives us. We have a free will. And there will be a judgment to see what we have done with what we have been given.

Or do you have God pleading with us to just accept Him as if if He was an unpopular child who looks for acceptance in a school?

Everything you espouse is exactly backwards. Your gospel has no power because it is a false gospel. So then all your warnings come back on you. The sheer depth of error in your reply requires a complete overhaul of every single thing you have come to understand as truth.

REST in God's Love That is the Root Of The Gospel ..lf you are Adding to the Gospel,as opposed to RESTING in it , God declares you Guilty Of Disobedience and UNBELIEF .....Read the short Book Of Galatians and at least the third and fourth chapters of Hebrews if you think I am mistaken....yes, read it for yourselves—- chances are you ain’t gonna hear about this stuff in your local church......I know that I didn’t .......Vital stuff.......ignored by Jack Leg Preachers-who had no business preaching....and WE paid the price...

You are confusing a true spiritual rest from a transporting into God's habitation in the heavenly place....with a smug and sinful self-assurance in a misunderstood gospel scheme contrived by Luther. Following Luther and other half-baked preachers is not the same as abiding in Christ.

The disbelief concerns not accepting that God's kingdom walk is perfect...without sin...beyond what men can do. And this is a gift of grace by faith...to walk as Jesus walked. Read your bible and ignore the indoctrination you have swallowed up till now.

The gospel is about power...a power that makes us do as Jesus did.

 

[ChristisGod]

Old Testament Law.....Jesus lived under the Law .... He Preached under the Law...
The Cross changed everything .....we are already forgiven now from ALL of our sins ...The-impetus for us forgiving others is now based on our gratitude for being forgiven ourselves — not faking forgiveness because you think you are going to rot in hell if you don’t ....
The new attitude should be “ If God can save a Wretch like me—- why shouldn’t I forgive others....you do it because you WANT to and Not because you HAVE to.....like almost “ EVERYTHING” the Believer does that pleases God once he has received his NEW HEART.....it occurs Naturally when one lets God do His Work “ THROUGH” you.....a Reality you will never understand .....what a shame....you have to Live it to Understand it.....God calls it “ REST”..... what YOU got , God would call a “ brain full of religious Mush”...... too damned Stiff-Necked to learn from anybody....

What I find unbelievable is that Jesus is the Mediator of the New Covenant and we are no longer under the Old Covenant which was tudor to bring us to Christ. The Law ( O.C. old covenant) was for the Jews not the gentiles. We are gentiles under the New Covenant. The entire book of Hebrews makes it obvious we are no longer under the O.T. but the N.T. The words will, covenant, testament all come form the same word in the Greek. We have been set free by the blood of Christ, the New Covenant of His blood which provides forgiveness and freedom from the law. These people do not understand Gods grace or the New Covenant, the New Testament. The Old Testament was valid while the One who made the covenant was alive. But since Christ who is God made the Covenant and died we inherit the New Covenant and are freed from the law as Hebrews chapters 8-10 point out as does Paul in Colossians, Galatians and Ephesians.

Keep up the good work defending the truth and the grace of God and not the law and its bondage.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Old Testament Law.....Jesus lived under the Law .... He Preached under the Law...
The Cross changed everything .....we are already forgiven now from ALL of our sins ...The-impetus for us forgiving others is now based on our gratitude for being forgiven ourselves — not faking forgiveness because you think you are going to rot in hell if you don’t ....
The new attitude should be “ If God can save a Wretch like me—- why shouldn’t I forgive others....you do it because you WANT to and Not because you HAVE to.....like almost “ EVERYTHING” the Believer does that pleases God once he has received his NEW HEART.....it occurs Naturally when one lets God do His Work “ THROUGH” you.....a Reality you will never understand .....what a shame....you have to Live it to Understand it.....God calls it “ REST”..... what YOU got , God would call a “ brain full of religious Mush”...... too damned Stiff-Necked to learn from anybody....

You really believe Jesus preached the Old Law? He preached the new holiness and actual righteousness that His Spirit would produce in you when His New Covenant was activated on the Day of Pentecost. Read the Sermon on the Mount again and see His comparisons.