Jane_Doe22
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FYI, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (nicknamed "Mormons") do indeed love Christ, love the Bible etc. Including myself.My wife and I have children, and I praise the Lord Jesus for the love of God and people that He has put inside of each and every one of us. We have evangelized. God granted us opportunities with Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Humanists, Mormons, etc. We've handed Bibles to people in each of those groups mentioned, even Bibles in their own language, even when they did not speak English or barely spoke English or spoke English fluently. I tell you this as a demonstration of how God vitalizes the Word in us when He says "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age" (Matthew 28:18-20).
That's not actually the core of the disagreement here. Nobody is denying the Christ loved first. The disagreements are on:There is no level that a person can choose Lord Jesus because He said "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation) - Jesus, being God, did not provide any exception for choosing toward Jesus. Lord Jesus speaks to all believers in all time because He also said "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word" (John 17:20)! All these words of Jesus are at the same supper! All glory is God's! With man, salvation is impossible (Matthew 19:25-26)! All glory in the salvation of man is God's (John 15:5, Isaiah 42:8, Psalm 3:8)!
1) Whether or not God offers the gift of salvation to everyone, and
2) Is the fight of salvation a gift a person can accept or reject? Or do they have no choice in the matter.