Mans Inability to come to Christ

[ChristisGod]

Actually I've been sick for a couple days. Thought I might have caught Covid at the hospital a couple weeks ago when I had a stint put in my heart, and it was causing symptoms. Took 3 Zinc tablets and it seems to be better.

I am not looking at relationships, and if ignoring Nancy and not responding to her verses seems to be fine with you, then you are not a Berean and if the Bible is not our mutual foundation, but you choose human reasonings that are flawed, then we can't help you see the light. You've chosen the doctrines Jesus calls "dead."

“I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

what freedom does a slave have ?

can they choose to not be a slave ?

do they have any control over being a slave sold into slavery ?

 

[Enoch111]

what freedom does a slave have ?

We should make sure we do not stretch an analogy beyond its proper limits.

 

[brightfame52]

So mans spiritual inability to come to Christ, equates to mans spirtual inability to believe in Him in regards to salvation, because the two are related, being one. Jesus says Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

 

[ChristisGod]

We should make sure we do not stretch an analogy beyond its proper limits.

agreed but we all know what a slave was in biblical times and in the beginning of our nation.

 

[ChristisGod]

So mans spiritual inability to come to Christ, equates to mans spirtual inability to believe in Him in regards to salvation, because the two are related, being one. Jesus says Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

ditto

 

[CharismaticLady]

what freedom does a slave have ?

can they choose to not be a slave ?

do they have any control over being a slave sold into slavery ?

ROFL

Still no response to what those scriptures mean! Typical Calvinist. Oy vey!

 

[ChristisGod]

ROFL

Still no response to what those scriptures mean! Typical Calvinist. Oy vey!

haha typical pelagian response avoiding the questions.................

 

[CharismaticLady]

haha typical pelagian response avoiding the questions.................

Did you forget that it is you that was avoiding answering Nancy's post?

 

[ChristisGod]

Did you forget that it is you that was avoiding answering Nancy's post?

we are just fine its you who avoided the questions.

 

[farouk]

we are just fine its you who avoided the questions.

@Christophany Ephesians 2 shows that without Christ man is dead in trespasses and sins; but it is by grace that he is quickened.

 

[ChristisGod]

Did you forget that it is you that was avoiding answering Nancy's post?

why didn't God heal you ?

I will get the popcorn ready..................

You have gone on record saying God has healed every single person you have prayer for, its his will according to you.

@CharismaticLady said

"Actually I've been sick for a couple days. Thought I might have caught Covid at the hospital a couple weeks ago when I had a stint put in my heart, and it was causing symptoms. Took 3 Zinc tablets and it seems to be better."

no medicine necessary of you had enough faith for healing.

 

[CharismaticLady]

we are just fine its you who avoided the questions.

As I said, it has nothing to do with you and Nancy's relationship. She posted a response to your OP and you NEVER answered her scriptures. You juvenile questions regarding slaves is small minded in light of 2 Timothy 2:20-21, and Nancy's wisdom.

 

[CharismaticLady]

why didn't God heal you ?

I will get the popcorn ready..................

You have gone on record saying God has healed every single person you have prayer for, its his will according to you.

I am healed, silly. God has given me a sound mind.

 

[ChristisGod]

I am healed, silly. God has given me a sound mind.

you needed pills, doctors, surgery etc.......

so much for the power in the blood eh ?

so much for Mark 16:16-20

the gift of healing disappeared eh ?

oops.......................

 

[CharismaticLady]

you needed pills, doctors, surgery etc.......

so much for the power in the blood eh ?

so much for Mark 16:16-20

oops.......................

God chose this way, and it was I who told the doctors what I wanted, because God told me.

 

[ChristisGod]

God chose this way, and it was I who that told the doctors what I wanted, because God told me.

ya sure keep telling yourself that and soon you will believe it....................

the fact is you do not have the gift of healing as you claim as evidenced by your very own testimony.

 

[CharismaticLady]

@Christophany

Hi Christophany,
"Coming to Christ can only happen when He draws us and enables us to come, its impossible to come by our free will since we are slaves of sin, in bondage to sin, and sin is our master."

And...He DID draw all men unto Himself!
"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself."
John 12:32

"So IMHO free will does not exist until after we are born again then we have the capability to choose to sin or choose to obey God."

We certainly need free will to respond to the Gospel. And, we can't be born again until we do hear the Gospel and then respond in acceptance or rejection. JMO brother.

It seems God gave Cain a chance to make the right decision, a warning really! As He does throughout His Word so, it just seems reasonable that God gave warnings and man either heed them by making correct choices or he doesn't.
Be blessed!

Second chance...

 

[CharismaticLady]

ya sure keep telling yourself that and soon you will believe it....................

the fact is you do not have the gift of healing as you claim as evidenced by your very own testimony.

You're just jealous because I have more faith in my little finger, than you have in your whole body. Just STOP listening to false teachers, and ask God the hard questions that you don't know.

 

[ChristisGod]

I could care less about physical healing you always make the big deal about that and how EVERY person you pray for is miracously healed.

everyone but yourself I guess..................

so much for Gods will and the gift of healing in your life........................

you sound like copeland and his fake healing of the blind and he wears glasses.

talk about an oxymoron he cannot heal himself lol............................

all the faith healers are imposters, false teachers.

 

[MattMooradian]

Rom. 3:10-12, "as it is written, ‘There is none righteous, not even one; 11 There is none who understands, there is none who seeks for God; 12 All have turned aside, together they have become useless. There is none who does good, there is not even one.’"

Do I understand you to mean that all of the people on this forum can be described in this manner? If so, you are correct.