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Are you preaching these things based on what source? Yeah, based on what source? Is it the Scripture?
Then show us where you got it from?

KJV as Pauline Theology.

Go and learn what that is, and you'll discover..."that is Behold".......
FIND OUT.
 

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So the spirit that is within you suggests surreptitiously, stealthily, that who received salvation offered by JESUS can continue sinning. But what does the LORD Jesus say? Here goes: John 8:
First thanks for the reply, second, the Spirit don't make suggestions. third, "continue?", or practice sin? are you kidding? listen up,

Romans 6:1 "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?" Romans 6:2 "God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"Romans 6:3 "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?"Romans 6:4 "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."Romans 6:5 "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:"Romans 6:6 "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin."Romans 6:7 "For he that is dead is freed from sin."Romans 6:8 "Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:"Romans 6:9 "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him."Romans 6:10 "For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God."Romans 6:11 "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."Romans 6:12 "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof." (READ THAT AGAIN) Romans 6:13 "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God."

WE HOPE YOU UNDERSTOOD VERSE 12, now lets see the result.

while at John 8 when finish reading there come over to, 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."1 John 1:10 "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." SINNERS DON'T CONFESS SINS, CHRISTIANS DO.

THE MAIN POINT
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
1 John 5:16 "If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it." 1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death."

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
 

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Listen carefully.
Im here about 5 months, and i've posted over 120 Threads.
Not just posts, but THREADS.
I have 3 main Topics, but, ive written regarding about 50 different subjects.
In those (main) Threads, i teach how to stop "sinning and confessing and repenting".
In those Threads, i teach how to stop "believing wrong"
What are you saying about yourself, it is pure hypocrisy, you are not freed from your cursed idolatry, nor from your diabolical spiritism,
what do you want to teach while still in the blackness of the darkness like the followers of the Beast of sea
(the iron) or followers of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Judaism? (the clay-the dry land)


In those Threads, i teach how to walk in the Spirit, in the Mind of Christ.
IN those Threads, i teach why there is no sin found.. 'in Christ".
Now, for teaching " how to walk in the Spirit, in the Mind of Christ", first of all it is necessary to have the Spirit of Christ, understand? You do not have.

also, as the Main Thread Topic, i teach a Real Believer, how to spot a heretic.
Ah! so you want to teach how to identify people contrary to the dogmas of the Papacy, the Beast that rose from the sea-Revelation 13:v.1-10. This explains why you are trapped by the Devil in your cursed idolatry identified on your icon. Whoever does not follow your disguised spirit is a heretic. I understand..

And that is as easy as this..
Note who teaches that a Christian can lose their salvation.
Note who teaches that a Christian can commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Unpardonable Sin)
Note who teaches that only the "pre-destined elect" are chosen by God, and everyone else is born to go to Hell, and is not allow "Free Will".
Note who teaches, that Water Baptism saves you.
AND, note especially who teaches that you have to "work to stay saved" or that Salvation is OF Works.
Now, that is what i teach, and why?
Because that is needed for Today.
You are wasting your time, my brothers in Christ know that they cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of demons: they cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

Be sure that he which wants to be Master will receive the greater condemnation.
Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, you that judges others: for wherein you judges another,
you condemn yourself, because you that judges do the same things. You that judges them which do such things, and you do the same, you will not escape the Judgment of God in the current time.

Therefore, after your hardness and impenitent heart even you treasure up unto yourself wrath in this great Day of God's wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of God,
that is the seventh and last Day -the Lord's Day- or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ. He will render to every MAN according to his deeds.

You are lost with your Jewish spiritism, and with your devilish idolatry as is showed through your satanic icon.
 

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The reason you can never stop being born again, is because you can never undo a Birth.

Are you born of your mother? Well, try to stop that by sinning.
Are you born if God? same thing.

That is complete hogwash, and I've heard it before, it's something our feel good preachers slip by those who don't know any better but just listen to them, and take there word for it without even thinking.

So, just for a moment, lets think. Just because we cannot put a baby back in the womb does not make it true we cannot be unborn again or can't lose our salvation, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other....its a trick, or the power of suggestion that makes that work. One is physically imposible and the other is not, and how they put something so ludicrous over on people is beyond me.

Some are so simple minded, they dont know any better than to listen to such false teaching, yet others just want to belive an easier way than the truth so they do. In the end, that is on them for believing lies, not to mention teaching them to those who do not know any better. God is going to to be very angry with those who lead his childeren astray...very angry.
 
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So, just for a moment, lets think.
Yes, let's do!

:)

Let's think about the implications of Colossians 3:

1) If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2) Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3) For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Risen with Christ, having died, this is the born again, those who have been immersed into Jesus in His death and resurrection. They will appear with Christ in glory. They simply will.

Scripture cannot be broken. God's Word will not be undone. Those who have died with Christ, who are risen with Him, all will be there. None missing.

The born again do not die again.

The one who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?

Much love!
 

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Yes, let's do!

:)

Let's think about the implications of Colossians 3:

1) If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2) Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3) For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Risen with Christ, having died, this is the born again, those who have been immersed into Jesus in His death and resurrection. They will appear with Christ in glory. They simply will.

Scripture cannot be broken. God's Word will not be undone. Those who have died with Christ, who are risen with Him, all will be there. None missing.

The born again do not die again.

The one who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?

Much love!


You need to post the part of my post you are disagreeing with and explain that is what you are doing. I need some context here.
 

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Are you preaching these things based on what source? Yeah, based on what source? Is it the Scripture?
Then show us where you got it from?

There are dime a dozen people that teach an unbiblical, made up "deeper meaning" version of the bible. They like to awe the unaware, nebs and such by teaching things no one has ever heard of, all for the attention it gets them. Unfortunately the reason no one has ever heard what these "deeper thinking" self serving teachers teach, is because it is made up, so you will be hard pressed to get them to prove what is not the truth.

I know because I've treid to get them to come clean where they get their drivel....no luck, but bless you for calling them out. That is the best way to prove to others what is really going on. :)
 

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You need to post the part of my post you are disagreeing with and explain that is what you are doing. I need some context here.
Your reply to Behold,

Behold said:
The reason you can never stop being born again, is because you can never undo a Birth.
Are you born of your mother? Well, try to stop that by sinning.
Are you born if God? same thing.

That is complete hogwash, and I've heard it before, it's something our feel good preachers slip by those who don't know any better but just listen to them, and take there word for it without even thinking.

I believe this passage in Colossians shows that being born again is never undone.

Much love!
 

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Here is the question for you... again...

Why does the blood of Jesus that saves the born again, keep them saved no matter what.. ?

Here is the question for you, Oseas

Why does the Blood of Jesus that saved the Born Again, keep them saved forever, no matter what. ???

Why is that?

Because, the one who does the will of God abideth (sinneth not, 1 John 3:6) for ever (1 John 2:17).
 

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Well of course it's true! It's the Bible.

Much love!

Already been proven untrue here several times. I would suggest those who are interested in the truth to do a google search on "scripture that refutes eternal security". On the othher hand, if you just want a pacifier that allows you to think you are always saved no matter what you do, then by all means, go bsck to sleep and let their untrue doctrine keep you in that state.
 

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Already been proven untrue here several times. I would suggest those who are interested in the truth to do a google search on "scripture that refutes eternal security". On the othher hand, if you just want a pacifier that allows you to think you are always saved no matter what you do, then by all means, go bsck to sleep and let their untrue doctrine keep you in that state.
Gee! What do you really think?

I'm kind of astounded when people dismiss clearly stated Scripture so casually.

If you just want a pacifier . . .

LOL!
 

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A lot of believers have the same misunderstanding that you have regarding a "sinning Christian".

So, its like this....
There is the "old man", the sinful flesh,= that is crucified with Christ.
He is GONE.
Paul said to esteem him or "reckon him" Dead.
God does not see him, ever again.
God only sees the "the incorruptible" born again "new Creation" "in Christ.
God only and always sees the Born again, as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
Most Christians have not been taught this, so, they STILL SEE THEMSELVES as a "saved sinner" who is to confess and repent, and sin again and start over, as how their Christianity is supposed to exist as "working out your salvation"...This is all they KNOW., because they have not ever had a real teacher of Light show them the WAY out of their darkness.

I know you, I know who you is. He that works and speaks through you is the accuser of the true Christians, and is a defenser of the false Christians like you, as a spiritist "Christian" you are a false Christian, the tares of Devil, so by your own words of iniquity you are condemned by the Word of God, because your testimony is not a testimony of a true Christian, but a false Christian, a wicked.

Your messages are good for nothing, except for perdition of the souls, you are a sower of tares, the tares will be burned with everlasting fire, understand?

Your spirit says he is "a real teacher of Light"?
Oh, yes, your spirit is a teacher of light, yes, I know him, yeah, I know you spirit of darkness, I know you Satan, even when you is transformed into a messenger of light.

A lot of believers have the same misunderstanding that you have regarding a "sinning Christian".
However, once you are taught correctly, that you are not a saved sinner, but you are a New Creation, A SAINT of God, a SON of GOD, a HEIR OF GOD..... "created for good works", who exists IN GOD's SPIRIT as "ONE WITH GOD AND CHRIST"....and there is NO SIN FOUND THERE..and that is where all the BORN AGAIN exist........once you can see this revelation, once you are taught this and becoming spiritually enlightened... then you will begin to walk in the Spirit for the FIRST TIME in your Salvation, = which is to recognize who you are "in Christ", and from this Right Believing, you will find freedom in God's Grace that will deliver you from the sinning and confessing failed discipleship.

Im that Teacher.


What my brothers in Christ can see through your disguised and unclean spirit like frog -Revelation 16:v.13 - is the confirmation of the Word of God that reveals the demons also believe in God-James 2:v.19.

What prevails is the Word of God. JESUS said: John 10:v.1-3 & 10:
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. Here the reason by which my brothers in Christ do not believe in you, you are a robber. You have only the letter of Scriptures, but do not have the Spirit, the Spirit gives life, the letter kills; YOU ARE A KILLER OF SOULS.

2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

Who leads the God's people is JESUS. He said: The sheep hear His voice, for they know His voice. - This is true -

A stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of stranger. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

10 - I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
 

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I would suggest those who are interested in the truth to do a google search on "scripture that refutes eternal security".
What's even better than this is to learn the Bible in it's fulness.

I don't mind examining together with you any passage in the Bible which you think means that some who are born again will not in fact appear in glory with Christ, even though this is what is written.

And there are many more passages which tell us about the permanence of our salvation.

Hebrews 13:9 is another, for He has promised, I will never leave you nor forsake you. Do you not believe that either?

Much love!