Ferris Bueller
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You got it backwards. You don't need a religious organization to be saved. Religious organizations are for saved people.The holy church is necessary for salvation!
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You got it backwards. You don't need a religious organization to be saved. Religious organizations are for saved people.The holy church is necessary for salvation!
'Faith alone' is condemned in the scriptures (James 2:24). Don't confuse that with "righteousness apart from works" (Romans 4:5). They are not the same thing. Don't condemn Protestants just because even most of them don't know the difference but in truth really do defend Romans 4:5, not the dead faith of James 2:24.
I think your fundamental stumbling block is that you do not understand that the church, the body of Christ, is Christ himself, not a denomination of assembled people (yes, your church is a denomination) who perform supposedly accurate and, therefore, acceptable religious ceremonies and rituals.
You get connected to Christ's body when you receive the Spirit in salvation through faith. That's what makes you a part of his body, just like how your spirit inhabits your arms and legs. And so it is with Christ's body. Only those members in which his Spirit is in are connected to and a part of his body. Religious walls and barriers and rituals and ceremonies are not what determines who is an arm or a leg of Christ's body. Faith in Christ does.
You got it backwards. You don't need a religious organization to be saved. Religious organizations are for saved people.
Read galations chapter four . And verse twenty six .chapter and verse for that? So that you can make your teaching clearer and more substantiated.
Take a wild trip through the book of Jeremiah to see what the LORD thinks of the queen of heaven.
And it sure aint the roman catholic church . Please tell me you are not saying that the woman in revelation chaptergal 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
the condemnation of the false queen of heaven is a verity that there must be a true queen of heaven
Just like condemning false Christ’s proves that there is a true Christ
in the line of kings of david the mother of the king is always queen
Jesus is king of heaven so Mary is queen of heaven
rev 12:1 queen in heaven
exactly . You need FAITH IN JESUS , then the saved lambs gather together for meetings as the body of Christ .You got it backwards. You don't need a religious organization to be saved. Religious organizations are for saved people.
And it sure aint the roman catholic church . Please tell me you are not saying that the woman in revelation chapter
twelve IS that church .
And it sure aint the roman catholic church . Please tell me you are not saying that the woman in revelation chapter
twelve IS that church .
The catholic church has long forgotten something .
We saw another preaching and doing miracles in your name , but we forbode him cause HE is not following with us .
HELLO ROME , For ROME says , we see many others who are preaching in the name of JESUS
and doing miracles , but WE FORBID THEM , cause they DONT FOLLOW US . HELLO THEE FAITH . Does it sink in yet .
That church is dangerous and you must flee the unholy roman catholic church . She is a grave and deadly danger unto all
who enter her chambers .
It aint the roman catholic church .there’s another church? Jn 10:16
Christ and His church ARE INDEED ONE .not even a good analogy
He was only casting our demons not what you alluded to
Only one church! Matt 16:18 Jn 10:16
Jn 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
Christ and his church are one! Acts 22:9
I don't agree with that. In ancient Israel, the nation was to gather “in order that they may listen and in order that they may learn.” (Deut. 31:10-12) Jews in the first century had the custom of going to the synagogues to read from the Scriptures. (Luke 4:16; Acts 15:21) This emphasis on meeting together continued with the formation of the Christian congregation, and it is still a major part of our worship. True Christians “consider one another to incite to love and fine works.” We need to keep on “encouraging one another, and all the more so as [we] behold [Jehovah’s] day drawing near.”—Heb. 10:24, 25.I don't believe any one church is the true church. That's why I quit looking for it. I think you arrive at the complete truth of God through your own journey of discovery and discernment as you read your Bible and fellowship with other believers who also read their Bibles. That way you don't only get the narrow denominational view of the particular church you are attending.
That's just me. Everyone has to make their own decision about where they will go to church, and even if they will go to a formal church service at all. Personally, I came to the conclusion that formal church was a waste of time. I felt I was serving a tradition that I thought God wanted me to tough out but which, honestly, did little to nothing for me spiritually and kept me from being a spiritual blessing to others. Right now I learn more from talking to my brothers and sisters on line.
It aint the roman catholic church .
And the point i was making in the other statement is , We dont need that church . WE need only Christ
and the true lambs will gather with other true believers who love the LORD .
Lambs dont follow any church or churches that teach false doctrine . And i got bad news , the catholic church
teaches some serious false doctrines . Surely you would agree that the mormon church is not the one true church .
cause we can see they preach falsehoods big time . WELL , you need to see that so too does the roman catholic church and
of course so do many within even the protestant realm . lambs feed from the truth , not from false ones .
It aint the roman catholic church .
And the point i was making in the other statement is , We dont need that church . WE need only Christ
and the true lambs will gather with other true believers who love the LORD .
Lambs dont follow any church or churches that teach false doctrine . And i got bad news , the catholic church
teaches some serious false doctrines . Surely you would agree that the mormon church is not the one true church .
cause we can see they preach falsehoods big time . WELL , you need to see that so too does the roman catholic church and
of course so do many within even the protestant realm . lambs feed from the truth , not from false ones .
Christ and His church ARE INDEED ONE .
And Rome aint it . Any church , any church that teaches blantant falsehoods and pratices deadly blasphemous things
is not the church . THEY DID and they still do teach dangerous and deadly things .
Thus if any man teaches otherwise , paul and others would have said to FLEE such ones .
SO i flee that church . I can only pray others will flee it as well .
Christ and His church ARE INDEED ONE .
And Rome aint it . Any church , any church that teaches blantant falsehoods and pratices deadly blasphemous things
is not the church . THEY DID and they still do teach dangerous and deadly things .
Thus if any man teaches otherwise , paul and others would have said to FLEE such ones .
SO i flee that church . I can only pray others will flee it as well .
I don't agree with that. In ancient Israel, the nation was to gather “in order that they may listen and in order that they may learn.” (Deut. 31:10-12) Jews in the first century had the custom of going to the synagogues to read from the Scriptures. (Luke 4:16; Acts 15:21) This emphasis on meeting together continued with the formation of the Christian congregation, and it is still a major part of our worship. True Christians “consider one another to incite to love and fine works.” We need to keep on “encouraging one another, and all the more so as [we] behold [Jehovah’s] day drawing near.”—Heb. 10:24, 25.
You got it backwards. You don't need a religious organization to be saved. Religious organizations are for saved people.
“These kings” refers to the Roman Empire
The body of Christ the church of Christ conquered the Roman Empire
To the victor go the spoils
Viva Christ the King!