I Can't Keep My Mouth Shut Anymore

Enoch111 said:

Really? When governments are using the COVID scamdemic to shut down churches, control worship, and jail pastors, Christians must simply go along with that and obey the illegal and unconstitutional government mandates? What kind of foolish talk is that?

A church in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan was fined $14,000 because Christians were singing without those stupid and useless masks! Imagine! Fortunately a judge threw out that demand and they won a victory over tyranny. According to you, the government was to be obeyed in violation of freedom to worship. So it is people like you who encourage tyranny against Christians.

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Since when has a building stopped us from gathering to worship? When Rome persecuted the church, we went underground.

I never said we should just let them jail us, of course we avoid it.

And as far as me promoting tyranny among Christians? that is your bitterness and anger spewing out. Of course I don't. If you bothered to ask me first instead of making these sweeping judgments, you would not have put your foot so deep in your mouth.

If the mask mandate was just against churches and just against singing- go ahead and violate it. but if it was a general mandate with fines for all, we should obey- no matter how stupid or unconstituional it is! We follow Scripture first, then a constitution second. Of course we can appeal unjust actions against us. I never said we couldn't. But if the govt. and states tomorrow did away with religious freedomn, that just would mean what we do in worshihp is against the law. We just have to learn to be more discreet.

We cannot get rid of Romans 13 just because we do not like some of the laws passed. We can appeal and if it goes against us, then we must decide whether to keep doing and face mans consequences of cease doing and maybe face Gods' consequences.

stunnedbygrace said:

Did Moses parents obey the governing authorities when they tried to hide him?

Did the 3 wise men obey the governing authorities when they didn’t report back?

Did the midwives obey the governing authorities?

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No they didn't. They obeyed God and preserved life. If there is a law that makes us choose to obey men instead of God- we obey God of course! We may face mens consequences for obeying god like our brethren have over the centuries, but that is just a hazard of being a follower of Jesus.

Ziggy said:

If they pass laws that are not unbiblical?
Show me in the bible where being injected with foreign objects is biblical.

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Show me flying in an airplane is allowed?

Romans 13
King James Version

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.


Right now the govt. hasn';t mandated vaccines. If they do and your conscience before God in this matter that is not clearly defined (The principle found in Romans 14:1-8 applies here) forbids you to take the vacine, that is your right, but you may have to pay a price the govt. mandates.

Ziggy said:

in other words:
NLT: Timothy, guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge.

Science: The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
Where is God in the description of science?

Should we trust in man's experimental investigations?

Like I said.. You do You and I will do me.

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Well I hope you don't do aspiring, advil, tylenol, antibiotics, and all other medications! They are all out there through , observation, identification, descritpion, experimental investigation, and explanation. If you are going to rail against the vaccine on the basis of science then be consistent! If you wish to rail against the vaccine because it was rushed out, that is anotyher matter entirely.

Ronald Nolette said:

Well I hope you don't do aspiring, advil, tylenol, antibiotics, and all other medications! They are all out there through , observation, identification, descritpion, experimental investigation, and explanation. If you are going to rail against the vaccine on the basis of science then be consistent! If you wish to rail against the vaccine because it was rushed out, that is anotyher matter entirely.

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I don't do any drugs.

I don't think you understand.
This is a homemade virus with a homemade vax waiting in the wings.
The only ones it benefits are the creators of them.
Now the creators of the virus and the vax..
(on one hand they try to kill you on the other they say they are trying to save you)
are telling us to take the vax or face the consequences.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but are you numb?
In the summer of 2019 they were having conferences on the effects of a pandemic outbreak.
It originates in Chicago, circulates the world and wipes out millions of people.
The conference was how to prepare and to advise and to inform the public.
This conference was called Crimson Contagion.

A Government Pandemic Simulation Exposed Our Weaknesses Last Year

Then there was "Event 201"

About Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019

About the Event 201 exercise
Event 201 was a 3.5-hour pandemic tabletop exercise that simulated a series of dramatic, scenario-based facilitated discussions, confronting difficult, true-to-life dilemmas associated with response to a hypothetical, but scientifically plausible, pandemic. 15 global business, government, and public health leaders were players in the simulation exercise that highlighted unresolved real-world policy and economic issues that could be solved with sufficient political will, financial investment, and attention now and in the future.

The exercise consisted of pre-recorded news broadcasts, live “staff” briefings, and moderated discussions on specific topics. These issues were carefully designed in a compelling narrative that educated the participants and the audience.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.

Recommendations
The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.

When/where
Friday, October 18, 2019
8:45 a.m. – 12:30 p.m.
The Pierre hotel
New York, NY

Audience
An invitation-only audience of nearly 130 people attended the exercises, and a livestream of the event was available to everyone. Video coverage is available here.

It's a PLANDEMIC.
IT WAS PLANNED.
How do you think the Vaccines were available so quickly?
They have the patent for both virus and vax.

I'm not opposed to medicine or vaccines.
I'm opposed to sticking my head in the sand and ignoring the truth.

Ronald Nolette is making a lot of sense

Ronald Nolette said:

But if the govt. and states tomorrow did away with religious freedomn, that just would mean what we do in worshihp is against the law. We just have to learn to be more discreet.

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I don't recall Jesus preaching under a rock.
In fact he opposed the authorities to their faces calling them hypocrites and taught the people in the Synagogues even.
Show me where Jesus was discreet due to fearing the authorities?

I’m not really sure if this should be called a vaccine...at least not in the traditional sense of injecting some weakened bit of virus into the body so the body sees it and develops antibodies against it.

This is more of a procedure or...something, because it does not inject weakened or...inactive virus into you but instead injects bits of genetic material, into you. These bits of mRNA give instructions to your dna to make...an antibody. It’s...not messing with your dna, they say, but is rather giving instructions to your dna on what they want your dna to do. So...technically, it is messing with your dna.

stunnedbygrace said:

So...technically, it is messing with your dna.

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And that is exactly what Pfizer's CEO said recently (but with a different spin). He said that the injected mRNA is the "software" that tells your "operating system" (DNA) how to behave. And now they are discovering that the spike proteins are causing serious health problems. But what is more critical is that thousands of deaths have been recorded by the official government agencies (VAERS in the USA and EudraVigilance in Europe). But once again CDC is playing deceitful games with the data and reducing the death count (the exact opposite of what they did with so-called COVID deaths).

April_Rose said:

I don't know for sure,.. but changing your DNA seems highly unlikely. Sounds more like conspiracy theory stuff to me.

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MRNA alteration is changing the way that DNA communicates instructions to the cells. The long term effects of such dabbling is unknown.

April_Rose said:

You know what? I give up. People are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of how ridiculous it sounds.

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We don't have sinister minds.
It's hard to comprehend sometimes how evil and dangerous people can be.
We don't want to believe that mankind is capable of such unspeakable evils.
We don't think that way, therefore how can anyone think that way?
But they do. And they have since the beginning of time.

There is an agenda. A global agenda called the great reset.
Certain people in places of power want to change the very foundations we have been brought up with and taught.
Think of the tower of Babel.
All the people were living under a particular system.
When it became too big to humble itself, God threw a wrench in it, and it ceased to continue.
We are in the same scenerio again today.
This whatever kind of cancer it is, it's growing. This hatred, this lack of compassion and empathy.
This, I'm wiser then you so do what I say... it's going to get a lot worse.

I'm just waiting for God to toss the wrench and break the satanic hold that's on this world.
It may sound ridiculous, but those who live on greed and power don't think it's ridiculous.

Hugs

Backlit said:

MRNA alteration is changing the way that DNA communicates instructions to the cells. The long term effects of such dabbling is unknown.

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Don't you realize this whole thing has been a test? They're experimenting with the human race.

April_Rose said:

I don't know for sure,.. but changing your DNA seems highly unlikely. Sounds more like conspiracy theory stuff to me.

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Not changing your dna. Giving instructions to your dna.

it’s like...hi, I’ve been sent here to tell you an enemy is roaming around and you need to build a bomb to kill him, just in case he comes after you. Here are the instructions for building the bomb. Oh, okay, thank you, I’ll get right on that.

And let me say to you, in my opinion, if a conversation makes you trust God less rather than more, you should steer clear of it, because everything God has for you comes to you in only one way, trusting Him.

Ziggy said:

We don't have sinister minds.
It's hard to comprehend sometimes how evil and dangerous people can be.
We don't want to believe that mankind is capable of such unspeakable evils.
We don't think that way, therefore how can anyone think that way?
But they do. And they have since the beginning of time.

There is an agenda. A global agenda called the great reset.
Certain people in places of power want to change the very foundations we have been brought up with and taught.
Think of the tower of Babel.
All the people were living under a particular system.
When it became too big to humble itself, God threw a wrench in it, and it ceased to continue.
We are in the same scenerio again today.
This whatever kind of cancer it is, it's growing. This hatred, this lack of compassion and empathy.
This, I'm wiser then you so do what I say... it's going to get a lot worse.

I'm just waiting for God to toss the wrench and break the satanic hold that's on this world.
It may sound ridiculous, but those who live on greed and power don't think it's ridiculous.

Hugs

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It doesn’t even have to be a global agenda that would make me wary of the procedure. It’s just, if I wanted to build a bomb, I’d not just trust the instructions of anybody. I’d have to trust them that they really, really knew what they were doing.

id probably want to talk to the guy who was missing some fingers because he’s the one who has learned something from his mistakes...

stunnedbygrace said:

Lol. No! And the headache people give me for it!

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No offense to anyone . but i had rather drink a bottle of turpentine and chase it with a struck match than to vote for any of them .
And believe me , i sure dont wanna drink no bottle of turpentine much less chase it with a struck match . cause i got the feeling
that one is gonna hurt just a wee bit . But i suppose it strengthens the point i was making . CLING TO CHRIST
HE alone is our ONLY HOPE . And let the glorious LORD be praised . Many will soon be fighting for their kingdom .
Me too , only mine kingdom is not of this world , nor are my weapons . its all about THE HEAVENLY KINGDOM
and its all about the saving of souls . The carnal will war over their kingdoms , but the spiritual will use our spiritual weapons
to pray forgivness for even those who hate us , to follow Christ , to win souls and to edify the church with biblical truth .
I leave us with these last words of pure truth and beauty . MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD , IF IT WERE THEN MY SERVANTS WOULD
HAVE FOUGHT that i would not have been delivered . My kingdom aint of this world either .

Ferris Bueller said:

Don't you realize this whole thing has been a test? They're experimenting with the human race.

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When have they NOT been experimenting on the human race?