new version of OSAS?

BloodBought 1953 · May 31, 2021

Transform a man's life into what? Nothing? You teach a transformation that doesn't tranSform

If we Trust God and give credit to our Salvation to Nothing But The Blood, lived out by Resting in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Found In 1Cor15:1-4, God will put His Spirit in us and HE will Transform us into the Image Of His Son.... Christianity 101.....

BloodBought 1953 · May 31, 2021

You are making it very clear that all you have to have on judgment day is 'nothing but the blood' and you will be saved.

Apparently not “ clear” enough for the Religionists and Legalist sand the Tares in this crowd....The ONLY thing you have to offer God as far as Salvation is your Sins......” Nothing of myself I bring— only to the Cross I Cling” .....

So now we have TWO songs that you sing in church most Sunday’s that you don’t really believe ( can you say “ Hypocrite? ) —— the first being “ Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus” Of course....Please do something Before next Sunday arrives that will make God happy.....tear these songs out Of your Hymnal.....God frowns upon phony singers.....fellow religionists hear the words....you might even pass the judgements of the self- Righteous “ Fruit Inspectors” .....But unfortunately for lying singers.....God sees your Heart .....

Marc RL Ministry · May 31, 2021

John 8:34 (TLV)
Yeshua answered them, “Amen, amen I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
John 8:35 TLV
Now the slave does not remain in the household forever; the son abides forever.

BloodBought 1953 · May 31, 2021

But you say it can be alone. Even Paul, who you say you follow, said the faith that justifies is the faith that is obedient to God—Galatians 5:6.

A completely False rendering of that verse....Perhaps I will comment when you quote it correctly...I have never seen you do this before.....we agree and disagree on the meanings Of some verses but at least you quoted the verses correctly .....what happened this time ? I will give you the benefit of the doubt....you were probably distracted by all of that praying for my broken foot, which incidentally is getting better....keep up the good work !

Marc RL Ministry · May 31, 2021

Blood Bought 1953 said:
But you say it can be alone. Even Paul, who you say you follow, said the faith that justifies is the faith that is obedient to God—Galatians 5:6.

Matthew 10:38 (TLV)
And whoever does not take up his cross and follow after Me isn’t worthy of Me.

Matthew 16:24 (TLV)
Then Yeshua said to His disciples, “If anyone wants to follow after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me.

Luke 9:23 (TLV)
Then Yeshua was saying to everyone, “If anyone wants to follow Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross every day, and follow Me.

Luke 14:27 (TLV)
Whoever does not carry his own cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple.

Mark 8:34 (TLV)
Then He called the crowd, along with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wants to follow after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and keep following Me.

The trouble in the christian world is people are following Paul, Moses etc instead of following Jesus Christ he should be the only scripture we follow.

Corlove13 · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Wow! Then how do OSASers here tell lie after lie? Oh that's right, they can NEVER lose their salvation, according to them and Satan.

Because they skip to Justification as all of Salvation
But..regeneration is left out....because it's Trusting Jesus that we are born from above.
Not trusting a belief Systen... [and it's what you start with that you finish with]

It's Jesus that is the beginning and the end...
Not a belief System- the interpretation of scripture through Osas.

So you can truly see what they believe by what they come back to. AND IT IS BELIEF THAT DETERMINES OUR BEHAVIOR.

So as a Baptist....This is what was said in my day...Believe Jesus died for your sins and rose and you are saved.[saved meaning heaven when you physically die]

But there was nothing mentioned about trusting Jesus...
And I am not saying that some OSASers can't stumble upon this in some way. But many I am sure have not, Because you can see in the way they answer questions. And THE ATTITUDE of boast.

MORE ABOUT I HAVE THE CORRECT DOCTRINE....THAN I AM TRUSTING JESUS.

THERE IS NO BOASTING IN CHRIST

But the Gosple message is the availability of the Kingdom ...life now in it...through trusting Jesus. We can live basically in this physical world but from the Spiritual kingdom.

We pray His kingdom come and will be done on earth as it is in heaven ....Where what God wants done is done.

That like faith...we move without seeing FOR
without faith it is impossible to please God...ABRAHAM MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN EVERYTHING BUT HE BELIEVED GOD WOULD BRING IT THROUGH.......THEREFORE HE MOVED IN FAITH

Remember God said to Abraham that He is His great reward....
THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVED HAPPEN....
WHEN GOD TOLD HIM TO WALK BEFORE HIM BLAMESLESS AND HE WOULD MAKE A COVENANT WITH HIM......THAT AS HE WALKED GOD WOULD DEAL WITH HIS SHORT COMINGS..HE WOULD PICK HIM UP
IF HE FELL. AND THIS IS TO ME is one aspect of THE LOVE OF GOD IN CHRIST.

SO ABRAHAM HAD TO WALK BLAMELESS BEFORE GOD, AND GOD WOULD MAKE A COV WITH HIM......SO THEN HOW DO you think WE receive ABRAHAMS COVENANT Blessings?
My thought is: We walk in the footsteps of Jesus.
Now Abraham, what was it that was credited for righteousness? Was it a belief with intent to follow...or He just believed God would do it all without His obedience to Him?

Corlove13 · May 31, 2021

I do not know the Theological terms...

But why did "hyper grace" just pop in my mind after reglazing the beginning J's post?

"It is NOT the matter of accepting or rejecting Jesus but, rather, if one is elect/chosen and predestined to salvation in eternity past, before the foundation of the world"

What is Hyper grace?
I have to look it up...I must have heard that somewhere.

Tong2020 · May 31, 2021

Ferris Bueller said:
Tong2020 said: ↑
It seems to be that he can at will, become a child of the devil, then become a child of God, then become a child of the devil, then become a child of God

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No, that is not allowed. It's enough that God doesn't turn the believer who stops believing over to their unbelief right away.

Not allowed? By whom?

Tong
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Tong2020 · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Tong2020 said: ↑
Read that passage again, giving attention to verse 6.

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I've read it many times. "Partakers of the Holy Spirit" are Christians and they can end up being "burned" no matter how many of Satan's children deny it!

If you did, perhaps you can tell us what the verse tells us being impossible for those described in Hebrews 6:4-5 to do.

Tong
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Tong2020 · May 31, 2021

Ferris Bueller said:
Tong2020 said: ↑
Scriptures says concerning the true children of God, that they are under grace. What does it mean to you to be under grace?

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That I can sin all I want, on purpose in unbelief, and I'm still saved?

Is that your answer to the question?

Tong
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Tong2020 · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Tong2020 said: ↑
Nope, not with those He created in Christ Jesus.

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Maybe Satan created OSASers to lead their families to Hell?

Perhaps you consider Satan, creator?

Do you not know that there are people who were created by God in Christ Jesus?

Tong
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Michiah-Imla · May 31, 2021

Ferris Bueller said:
I can tell who knows what they're talking about, and who doesn't.

Post quoted: #1297

"If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." (John 7:17)

Corlove13 · May 31, 2021

JunChosen said:
Our source Book of Truth is the Bible. Where are your Scripture references? Act like you know what you are talking about and STOP giving Satan too much credit!!!

I'll give you a secret.. Satan has nothing on born again believers!

To God Be The Glory

But He does on those who may believe their saved and not.

Michiah-Imla · May 31, 2021

JunChosen said:
I'll give you a secret.. Satan has nothing on born again believers

If this were true dear friend, than this would not be written in our Bibles:

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:8)

Now, “if Satan had nothing” on us, then there would be no need to be sober and vigilant, would there?

Corlove13 · May 31, 2021

ScottA said:
The problem with claiming that one who is saved is not necessarily saved forever, is it is not against that person, but against God. Such a claim is to say that God is not the same yesterday, today and forever.

So then, if one is in God, that one is saved, and saved forever; and if not saved, then he was not and is not in God. For whomever God [actually] saves, they are saved indeed. Heaven forbid that anyone should say otherwise.

What then of the truth that we who are in God were once dead but now are alive forevermore? Does that not also say that God is not the same yesterday, today, and forever...because we who were once dead (yesterday) are alive today? No, not at all. It says that God is the giver of eternal life, and that those who attain it from God have indeed attained it, or they have attained nothing.

Judge not God.

The problem is when one is told they are saved by believing something Jesus did to secure them so they can have heaven when they physically die. (But they may not be)

Instead of telling them to trust Jesus as who God through the prophets declared Him to be in order to be born from above; And then choose to follow Him.

One who was saved they knew it....they most likely came Alive at their new birth.....And honestly they can know when they are not walking in steps in light of the Faith of Jesus.

So if you really were saved why would you have to doubt? You knew it! And if ya want to continue to know you keep steps with the Spirit. It is knowledge that is the key. For eternal life is to know God and Jesus Christ who He sent.

3The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen for his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

You see...so the problem is not telling the once saved they are lost when they know they are protected by their shepherd.

The problem is filtering scriptures through OSAS....and holding this doctrine of beliefs instead of Trusting Jesus Christ allowing the Spirit to lead one into all truth.

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

It is Jesus that is the beginning and the end...not the scriptures filtered through Osas.

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
It's been posted several times. You mean you didn't want to see it?

Go ahead an repost it

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Then why don't you prove it? Oh that's right, OSASers can tell lie after lie and NEVER lose their salvation!

I am done, I will not discuss osas anymore, your hatred is deep, when your ready to discuss the word let me know

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
And you give ZERO proof. Guess who's the liar.

Not me

you lie every time you post about something I believe, so every time you do I will call you a liar.
You don’t like it, lean what I truly believe not what you THINk I believe

Michiah-Imla · May 31, 2021

"…I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way." (Psalms 119:128)

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
"Being burned" isn't cursed? OSAS is so Satanic!

Near to being cursed is equal to being cursed?

Dude your hurting your own argument,

new version of OSAS?

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