Jun2u
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No, you have not flunked religion class, rather flunked to understand the true nature of the Gospel.
John 9:35-41
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No, you have not flunked religion class, rather flunked to understand the true nature of the Gospel.
That's a relief!
Which gospel?
What is the true nature of the gospel you speak of? Is it according to self-interest of is it concerned with the things of God?
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Light is a reference to the spirit, and it is the eye that is the light of the body:
Luke 11:33-36
(33) "No one, when he has lit a lamp, puts it in a secret place or under a basket, but on a lampstand, that those who come in may see the light. (34) The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness. (35) Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness. (36) If then your whole body is full of light, having no part dark, the whole body will be full of light, as when the bright shining of a lamp gives you light."
Thus, Jesus was referring to the blind (the poor in spirit) as those who did not harbor any darkness in spirit, and also to those who were lead by the Spirit who wrongly assumed their spirit was good and yet needed to loose that darkness before gaining new life in Christ. Therefore, He also said:
Matthew 16:25
"For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it."
Jun2u
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1 John 5:17 must be read in light of Mark 3:28-29:
28) Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
2 John !:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth NOT in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son
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The Pharisees were wise in their own selves and natural minds and claimed they knew the knowledge and truth of God, sin and even salvation, absent of Christ. Their pride made them think they knew God and sin more that Jesus. Jesus said they were spiritually blind and therefore their sins remained in them. Their hearts were far away from God.
Those that were blind to spiritual truth and knew it, and those that sought the knowledge of the gospel of salvation and even those that would gain salvation, were the ones that could really see who Jesus was, as the Son of God and their Savior of their sinful nature.
Jesus was born, besides other reasons, to separate the pretenders, the proud, the boastful, arrogant, from the hearts that sought God to salvation through his Son. The truly blind and those that knew and saw the grace of God in their lives.
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Actually those two Scriptures are TOTALLY UNRELATED.
1 John 5:17 is addressed to believers -- children of God -- who persist in sin and die prematurely -- *the sin unto death* -- which is physical death. This connects with what Paul states in 1 Cor 11:27-32, which again is addressed to believers.
Mark 3:28-20 is applicable to unbelievers who despised the miracles of Christ done by the power of the Holy Spirit and attributed them to Satan (Beelzebub). The unbelieving Jews accused Christ of being possessed by Satan, and His works as being those of Satan: And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. (v 22)
It was these same unbelieving Jews who were deliberately blinded to spiritual truths by God because they had made themselves wilfully blind. This also resulted in the teachings of Christ being presented as parables, so that *seeing they would not see*.
How does this apply today (Q) Those who wilfully reject the deity of Christ and the reality of the Trinity are wilfully blind, and continue to remain blind to other spiritual truths. Unless a person believes that Jesus is God, he or she cannot be saved.
Also those who despise salvation by grace through faith and promote salvation by the works of the Law, or via the sacraments, also remain spiritually blind. So it is a very serious matter to read the Word of God and then reject what is revealed therein.
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Nancy
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2 Timothy 3:7
7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
Stiff necked. I think I would prefer to humble myself rather than let God do it, lol.
BTW-nice new Avatar!
Humility is safety...knowing we are not offending God or anyone with this posture. It is better to be uplifted than debased.
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Jun2u
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The word “lucky” is NEVER in my vocabulary! Every thing I have I received from God (John 3:27). I read and obey the Scripture “by faith.”
Perhaps you should read Romans 7 and 1 John 3:9.
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How can God fill all things and there still remain that which God does not fill, being a place separated from the presence of God? He said: “...that he might fill all things.” What is this place of darkness that God does not fill? If His presence is not there then God will not fill All things.
What are you thinking of specifically when you refer to the place of darkness ViJ ?
What are you thinking of specifically when you refer to the place of darkness ViJ ?
1. I've always told you that you're one of the lucky few.
2. Does John contradict himself in 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 2:1 ??
3. How much did you bet?
Please answer no. 2.
Thanks.
Nancy
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I would say that the place of darkness is within unredeemed men. God has given us a choice between His Light or our own darkness. Adam and Eve chose darkness. The rest of us were born into darkness but God has made His Light available to us.
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quietthinker
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Yes, this is right until they are consumed and the darkness will be complete for them. Where will the darkness be then? Gone!
When sin and all those who love and practice a lie are destroyed, the whole universe, both animate and inanimate, once more will pulse with harmony and reflect the glory of God.
Attempting to fit living eternally with weeping and gnashing of teeth is not only contrary to the justice, it is an insult to God.
Imagine.... Taking the position of eternal weeping and gnashing of teeth etc....Jesus taking the place of the sinner in bearing his punishment would mean that his torture on the cross should be ongoing for eternity. No, no, no, this is contrary to scripture and and reveals the nature of the Devil.
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Jun2u
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I thought I’d be nice and answer all three.
1) Not lucky just blessed that God has chosen and elected me to salvation, and redeemed all of my sins before the foundation of the world.
2) There are no contradictions in Scripture, just our understanding. 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 2:1 is teaching a fundamental principle, and must be read in light of Romans 7:15-25 to get the gist, which I’ve already alluded to in post #31.
3) I’ve wagered against your knowledge of Scripture that you will not be able to answer the biblical meaning of the word “love” and you lost, for electing not to answer.
To God Be The Glory
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