Hi to all , and there are many Christains that believe that there is only ONE Gospel ,and some say that there are 2 gospels , but I see 4 .1) #1 , is mentioned in Gal 2: 7 , which is most important to the Dispensation of the Grace of God . It is Gospel given to Paul , and it is called the Gospel of the UN-circumcision , which was to be preached to Gentiles as the title says , Un-circumcision . It is found in Rom 16:25 and Eph 3:1-9 , and other verses .2) #2 , is in Gal 2:7 . which is the Circumcision message given to Peter , and you will all notice that the word Gospel is NOT mentioned for Peter's message , and is not in the Greek text . Because the emphasis is on Paul Gospel message .3) # 3 , is found in Gal 3:8 , where God would justify the heathen through faith ( this happens during the 1000 yr reign of Christ ) preached before the Gospel unto Abram , saying , In thee shal al nations be blessed . 4) # 4 , is the Everlasting Gospel , found in Rev 14:6 , which is a gospel of Judgment .
Is There Only One Gospel ?
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QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 30 2009, 04:59 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71443
Hi to all , and there are many Christains that believe that there is only ONE Gospel ,and some say that there are 2 gospels , but I see 4 .1) #1 , is mentioned in Gal 2: 7 , which is most important to the Dispensation of the Grace of God . It is Gospel given to Paul , and it is called the Gospel of the UN-circumcision , which was to be preached to Gentiles as the title says , Un-circumcision . It is found in Rom 16:25 and Eph 3:1-9 , and other verses .2) #2 , is in Gal 2:7 . which is the Circumcision message given to Peter , and you will all notice that the word Gospel is NOT mentioned for Peter's message , and is not in the Greek text . Because the emphasis is on Paul Gospel message .3) # 3 , is found in Gal 3:8 , where God would justify the heathen through faith ( this happens during the 1000 yr reign of Christ ) preached before the Gospel unto Abram , saying , In thee shal al nations be blessed . 4) # 4 , is the Everlasting Gospel , found in Rev 14:6 , which is a gospel of Judgment .
Where on earth do you get your information. Cancel the subscription if you can, it's nuts.
Hi to all , and there are many Christains that believe that there is only ONE Gospel ,and some say that there are 2 gospels , but I see 4 .1) #1 , is mentioned in Gal 2: 7 , which is most important to the Dispensation of the Grace of God . It is Gospel given to Paul , and it is called the Gospel of the UN-circumcision , which was to be preached to Gentiles as the title says , Un-circumcision . It is found in Rom 16:25 and Eph 3:1-9 , and other verses .2) #2 , is in Gal 2:7 . which is the Circumcision message given to Peter , and you will all notice that the word Gospel is NOT mentioned for Peter's message , and is not in the Greek text . Because the emphasis is on Paul Gospel message .3) # 3 , is found in Gal 3:8 , where God would justify the heathen through faith ( this happens during the 1000 yr reign of Christ ) preached before the Gospel unto Abram , saying , In thee shal al nations be blessed . 4) # 4 , is the Everlasting Gospel , found in Rev 14:6 , which is a gospel of Judgment .
Where on earth do you get your information. Cancel the subscription if you can, it's nuts.
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QUOTE (tomwebster @ Mar 30 2009, 08:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71456
Where on earth do you get your information. Cancel the subscription if you can, it's nuts.
The notion of the count of gospels I believe stems from early catholic doctrine. Which include, Mathew, Luke, Mark, and John. Basically the books where the death and resurection of Jesus is portrayed and the story is unfolded. It's even been documneted (I should say, speculative documentation) that early scribes kinda held a meathing and decided there should only be 4 gospels because of the 4 corners of the earth that God rules, and kicked out other books they felt didn't belong etc etc. I label all that under heretics. This kind of doctrine does nothing to edify or bring anyone closer to Christ. Just another senseless controversy that ranks right up there with getting circumsised.The Gospel in it's own means Good News, or something to that affect (I'm sure there's millions of different meanings especially if you break it down to original languages and what not) , and is originally meant to be for the whole New Testament.
Where on earth do you get your information. Cancel the subscription if you can, it's nuts.
The notion of the count of gospels I believe stems from early catholic doctrine. Which include, Mathew, Luke, Mark, and John. Basically the books where the death and resurection of Jesus is portrayed and the story is unfolded. It's even been documneted (I should say, speculative documentation) that early scribes kinda held a meathing and decided there should only be 4 gospels because of the 4 corners of the earth that God rules, and kicked out other books they felt didn't belong etc etc. I label all that under heretics. This kind of doctrine does nothing to edify or bring anyone closer to Christ. Just another senseless controversy that ranks right up there with getting circumsised.The Gospel in it's own means Good News, or something to that affect (I'm sure there's millions of different meanings especially if you break it down to original languages and what not) , and is originally meant to be for the whole New Testament.
QUOTE (WhiteKnuckle @ Mar 30 2009, 10:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71471
The notion of the count of gospels I believe stems from early catholic doctrine. Which include, Mathew, Luke, Mark, and John. Basically the books where the death and resurection of Jesus is portrayed and the story is unfolded. It's even been documneted (I should say, speculative documentation) that early scribes kinda held a meathing and decided there should only be 4 gospels because of the 4 corners of the earth that God rules, and kicked out other books they felt didn't belong etc etc. I label all that under heretics. This kind of doctrine does nothing to edify or bring anyone closer to Christ. Just another senseless controversy that ranks right up there with getting circumsised.The Gospel in it's own means Good News, or something to that affect (I'm sure there's millions of different meanings especially if you break it down to original languages and what not) , and is originally meant to be for the whole New Testament.
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
The notion of the count of gospels I believe stems from early catholic doctrine. Which include, Mathew, Luke, Mark, and John. Basically the books where the death and resurection of Jesus is portrayed and the story is unfolded. It's even been documneted (I should say, speculative documentation) that early scribes kinda held a meathing and decided there should only be 4 gospels because of the 4 corners of the earth that God rules, and kicked out other books they felt didn't belong etc etc. I label all that under heretics. This kind of doctrine does nothing to edify or bring anyone closer to Christ. Just another senseless controversy that ranks right up there with getting circumsised.The Gospel in it's own means Good News, or something to that affect (I'm sure there's millions of different meanings especially if you break it down to original languages and what not) , and is originally meant to be for the whole New Testament.
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 31 2009, 12:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71488
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
II Corinthians 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
II Corinthians 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
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QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 31 2009, 01:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71488
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
QUOTE (WhiteKnuckle @ Mar 31 2009, 04:44 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71494
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
1) Good thing that I can count . 2) Can you explain this gospel in Mark 1:14 , the Gospel of the Kingdom ? 3) Is this gospel for today ? Can you NOT see that they are different ? whew !!!!!
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
1) Good thing that I can count . 2) Can you explain this gospel in Mark 1:14 , the Gospel of the Kingdom ? 3) Is this gospel for today ? Can you NOT see that they are different ? whew !!!!!
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John 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
QUOTE (WhiteKnuckle @ Mar 31 2009, 08:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71509
Dan, What do you think the Kingdom of God actually is? How are you seeing it differently?
1) The term " Kingdom of God " as used in the bible , has more than one meaning . It is used in 2 different ways . 2) The Millennial Kingdom of Christ , which is the 1000 year re9gn of Christ on earth , and this is future .3) The Universal Kingdom ( Domain ) of God , and this has always been in existence , and confusion abounds when this term is always used to mean the same thing . 4) In the gospels records of Matthew, Mark , Luke , and John , the " Kingdom of God " is mentioned around 33 times , all in Matthew . 5) The " Kingdom of Heaven " is a prophetic term based on Dniel 2:44 . 6) In Daniel chapter 2 , this is the Kingdom of Heaven that was the be burden of John the Baptist , the 12 Disciples , and the Lord Jesus Himself . God was ready to bring in ( SET UP ) THE kINGDOM if the Nation had repented , but we know from the book of Acts that Israel did not repent .7) This is a big subject , and we see that in Matt , the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God are used interchangeably . I have to leave and will comment as it comes up . dan p
Dan, What do you think the Kingdom of God actually is? How are you seeing it differently?
1) The term " Kingdom of God " as used in the bible , has more than one meaning . It is used in 2 different ways . 2) The Millennial Kingdom of Christ , which is the 1000 year re9gn of Christ on earth , and this is future .3) The Universal Kingdom ( Domain ) of God , and this has always been in existence , and confusion abounds when this term is always used to mean the same thing . 4) In the gospels records of Matthew, Mark , Luke , and John , the " Kingdom of God " is mentioned around 33 times , all in Matthew . 5) The " Kingdom of Heaven " is a prophetic term based on Dniel 2:44 . 6) In Daniel chapter 2 , this is the Kingdom of Heaven that was the be burden of John the Baptist , the 12 Disciples , and the Lord Jesus Himself . God was ready to bring in ( SET UP ) THE kINGDOM if the Nation had repented , but we know from the book of Acts that Israel did not repent .7) This is a big subject , and we see that in Matt , the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God are used interchangeably . I have to leave and will comment as it comes up . dan p
QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 31 2009, 07:29 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71488
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
Galatians 1:6-10 (New King James Version)6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
1) You all did not give scripture that refutes what I have posted , and are just whining and crying . You all must be a ONE gospel people , which you can not prove , and if you could , you will have scripture and verse . dan p
Galatians 1:6-10 (New King James Version)6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
QUOTE (WhiteKnuckle @ Mar 31 2009, 04:44 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71494
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
1) It is important , because it is in the Word of God , did you read the verses and book where Paul wrote them ?
Mark 1:1 -This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God.Notice, the word, Gospel (singular), not Gospels (Plural). No where is Gospels or the number of Gospels mentioned in the bible. None of the apostles ever said to anyone, "I thank God for you, because you have followed the gospels of which we taught." Or, "I thank God for the 4 Gospels"I believe that they (who ever they are) decided to use the term Gospels for Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John. Because the storys are all the same proclaiming Jesus birth death and resurection, but from different points of view from different people, as in who these books are named for.As stated, it's a man made deal. I'm not trying to discredit the validity of your questions as I belive you are genuinly sincere. Let me ask you,Why is this question so important to you?
1) It is important , because it is in the Word of God , did you read the verses and book where Paul wrote them ?
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QUOTE (dan p @ Apr 3 2009, 09:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71769
1) It is important , because it is in the Word of God , did you read the verses and book where Paul wrote them ?
I didn't read anything that remotely pointed to anything you're talking about. There is one Gospel and that's Christ Crusified. I think Paul wrote that one too. Did you read that?
1) It is important , because it is in the Word of God , did you read the verses and book where Paul wrote them ?
I didn't read anything that remotely pointed to anything you're talking about. There is one Gospel and that's Christ Crusified. I think Paul wrote that one too. Did you read that?
QUOTE (mjrhealth @ Apr 3 2009, 11:28 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71780
There is only one Gospel its just that none knows how to teach it correctly.
1) Hi mjrhealth , here is your opportunity to tell how to teach correctly ?
There is only one Gospel its just that none knows how to teach it correctly.
1) Hi mjrhealth , here is your opportunity to tell how to teach correctly ?
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