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Of course not, I feel like you're trying to twist my words...Your experiences with the Lord, that is what I would dearly love to hear about...If you do feel like sharing a testimony?
Yep I do remember her saying a similar thing, because I understand nothing of Catholicism.
LOL
And I'm the one always addressing persons by their initials!
You must not read my posts.
When I met Jesus I had NEVER even read the bible.
But, yes, God can be known through the bible.
I truly believe that every born again believer has had similar experiences with knowing Jesus. You feel like you're living in the dark, and then one day Jesus speaks to you and you see the light and everything makes sense.
That's about how it was. I've spoken about it often when the occasion arises.
I was raised Catholic, born again at 28, left the Catholic church a few years later and went to a Nazarene church which I really liked a lot.
Now I'm here and all there is around here is the Catholic church. So here I am.
Looking for other protestants to speak to. I love everyone that loves Jesus but I don't have to agree with everything that's said here. I don't like to argue except for a couple of doctrine that really bother me. And I don't carry on forever and ever like some guys like to do.
Not much more to tell.
I never twist people's words. If I don't understand something, I say so.
If you think I twist YOUR words, you should tell me which ones.
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well, i meant the common "you" there also, ok, "one." You are somewhere on a bell curve in your belief on that, and i don't really know where, you might sing "when we all get to heaven" with no sense of irony at all, see, and still believe what you say in the first part there.
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on the "dialectic" part? imo it comes to us as "see and not see" and a few other phrases, but due to the rise of logic would have been obscured anyway, in order to "hide from the wise." But as "logic" has come up again, i should prolly differentiate it now from say Scientific Method or whatever, as one's "logic" can easily be faulty, and this is what Scripture can reveal. Of course SM gets scrutinized too, but it is pretty unassailable, might even be perceived as a mechanism of faith
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ah, dunno about 'proven,' and part 1 is a diff subject entirely, not disputing any of that.
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hmm. We do have a Scripture that specifically corrects this perspective, although i get what you mean there.
something about "...know God; or rather be known by Him," something like that.
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Yes. They were offended.
The church of that time, the Catholic Church, was charging for forgiveness of sin and release from purgatory.
Ephesians 2:8 got the Protestant ball rolling, as I'm sure you know.
Right.
But didn't God know us first from before we were born?
This is why one verse is never made into a doctrine.
As some tend to do...
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ha so line up your def of "Church" with Scripture imo, and let Strong Men do whatever they want. But the lesson needed to be illustrated ILC i guess (in living color)
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"knowing God" is kid of a touchy subject, imo a human cannot ever "know God"
but others feel diff i guess
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imo one who seeks and follows Christ differentiates themselves from "the sea," so while God surely knew us then, we have the choice of changing our minds or not, and what mother would not take new notice of a child who has changed their mind for the better?
this is why i question Scott's perspective, even though nihilism is correct from a certain pov imo
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