A Study of Peter's sermon at Pentecost

[mjrhealth]

As a servant of Jesus, I have God's laws written on my heart and mind...so I am one of God's people.....others who do not have these written are a child of another god...satan comes to mind.

If that where so, than you would not be trying too earn your righteousness by the law, It is where you heart is, its all you glorify. The law is dead even to teh Jews for they two have a new husband to whom they too are bethroed and that Is Christ, we where never married to teh law. it was never our husband and was never given to us gentiles. We receive our rightousness because of Christ when we receive Him and that is why we can stand before God sinless and blamelss, that the law cannot do for you, it is condemning you even now, but that is your choosing.

 

[heretoeternity]

The law that is dead is the old sacriicial system Mosaic laws...you cannot seem to understand this...God's law the ten commandments go on forever..but you are blinded to it...
A true Christian does not do the works of the law to obtain salvation, but is saved by grace, and then the Holy Spirit will want you to keep the commandment and quit sinning...if you do not have the Holy Spirit keeping you from sinning then you are following the wrong god. If God saved you by His grace you should want to do His will..

 

[mjrhealth]

God's law the ten commandments go on forever..but you are blinded to it...

Of corsue they do, His laws are Holy and good, but His laws being Holy Kill all who touch them, That is why when moses asked to se His face God hid Moses in the cleft of a rock and di not allow moses to see His face but allowed him so see him from behind. That is why Christ died for us so we would no longer be "condmned by our sin", not by the law, it is our sin that God cant look upon, its Christs rightousness that we are given and puton when we come to Christ that allows God to look at us, for he sees Christs rightousness not our own. But you cannot keep the law, no man could so to say you do is a lie and foolish, but you cant say you do for it would make you a liar, and if your say you dont it shoots your "Reasoning" full of holes, for all men have sinned which according to you. means you broke the law. You cant win, the law is death to all of us for it is Holy and we are not.

 

[kerwin]

mjrheath,

, its Christs righteousness that we are given and put on when we come to Christ that allows God to look at us, for he sees Christs righteousness not our own.

Some of what you say is correct but then you make a statement that is incorrect though it has a semblance of what is correct. Christ's righteousness is the Spirit but when a human puts it on it does not create an illusion of righteousness as they do the things of the Law.

But you cannot keep the law, no man could so to say you do is a lie and foolish, but you cant say you do for it would make you a liar, and if your say you dont it shoots your "Reasoning" full of holes, for all men have sinned which according to you. means you broke the law. You cant win, the law is death to all of us for it is Holy and we are not.

Those words sound like "who then can be saved?" and Jesus response is "what is impossible with humanity is possible with God." (Matthew 19:24-26)

 

[heretoeternity]

Of corsue they do, His laws are Holy and good, but His laws being Holy Kill all who touch them, That is why when moses asked to se His face God hid Moses in the cleft of a rock and di not allow moses to see His face but allowed him so see him from behind. That is why Christ died for us so we would no longer be "condmned by our sin", not by the law, it is our sin that God cant look upon, its Christs rightousness that we are given and puton when we come to Christ that allows God to look at us, for he sees Christs rightousness not our own. But you cannot keep the law, no man could so to say you do is a lie and foolish, but you cant say you do for it would make you a liar, and if your say you dont it shoots your "Reasoning" full of holes, for all men have sinned which according to you. means you broke the law. You cant win, the law is death to all of us for it is Holy and we are not.





If you have God's Holy spirit, of course you can keep His Ten commandments...it is not difficult...thou shall have no other God's before thee, thou shall not bow down to graven images, thou shall not take the name of God in vain, Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy,honour your father and mother, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, thou shall no bear false witness, thou shall not covet your neighbours things....ianyone who cannot keep these and calls themselves christian better seek help fast.

 

[H. Richard]

Of corsue they do, His laws are Holy and good, but His laws being Holy Kill all who touch them, That is why when moses asked to se His face God hid Moses in the cleft of a rock and di not allow moses to see His face but allowed him so see him from behind. That is why Christ died for us so we would no longer be "condmned by our sin", not by the law, it is our sin that God cant look upon, its Christs rightousness that we are given and puton when we come to Christ that allows God to look at us, for he sees Christs rightousness not our own. But you cannot keep the law, no man could so to say you do is a lie and foolish, but you cant say you do for it would make you a liar, and if your say you dont it shoots your "Reasoning" full of holes, for all men have sinned which according to you. means you broke the law. You cant win, the law is death to all of us for it is Holy and we are not.





If you have God's Holy spirit, of course you can keep His Ten commandments...it is not difficult...thou shall have no other God's before thee, thou shall not bow down to graven images, thou shall not take the name of God in vain, Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy,honour your father and mother, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, thou shall no bear false witness, thou shall not covet your neighbours things....ianyone who cannot keep these and calls themselves christian better seek help fast.

If it is so simple and easy then why did it take the shed blood of God's Son to pay for the sins of men/women.

You contradict the scriptures;

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
NKJV

According to this scripture the truth is not in you.

 

[heretoeternity]

If it is so simple and easy then why did it take the shed blood of God's Son to pay for the sins of men/women.

You contradict the scriptures;

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
NKJV

According to this scripture the truth is not in you.







You post is written by someone who does not believe in following the word of God...and you think you have truth? Guess again, seems the inluence of the god of this world satan has a firm grip on you that you would deny the true word of God...don''t forget Jesus said of God's word "thy word is truth"...so why don't you follow it? Oh thats right, satan controls you, and is dragging you away from God's word,. obviously. As Apostle John said in 1st John..the commandments of God are not burdensome, why don't you try following them?

 

[H. Richard]

If it is so simple and easy then why did it take the shed blood of God's Son to pay for the sins of men/women.

You contradict the scriptures;

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
NKJV

According to this scripture the truth is not in you.







You post is written by someone who does not believe in following the word of God...and you think you have truth? Guess again, seems the inluence of the god of this world satan has a firm grip on you that you would deny the true word of God...don''t forget Jesus said of God's word "thy word is truth"...so why don't you follow it? Oh thats right, satan controls you, and is dragging you away from God's word,. obviously. As Apostle John said in 1st John..the commandments of God are not burdensome, why don't you try following them?

Sorry, we are getting nowhere so I must excuse me from replying to you any longer.

You think you do not sin any longer, That is just fine with me because what you believe and do is only yours to answer for.

 

[kerwin]

Heretoeternity,



If you have God's Holy spirit, of course you can keep His Ten commandments...it is not difficult...thou shall have no other God's before thee, thou shall not bow down to graven images, thou shall not take the name of God in vain, Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy,honour your father and mother, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, thou shall no bear false witness, thou shall not covet your neighbours things....ianyone who cannot keep these and calls themselves christian better seek help fast.

It is not only if you have but also if you are led by it which you may infer anyways. The only difficulty is learning to live by faith for believers begin immature in there faith.

The new covenant has only one commandment not many though and it is written in a variety of ways such as "walk according to the Spirit", "put on the new man" and "love your neighbor as yourself". The only way to keep that one commandment is to receive the Spirit by faith and then to obey that same commandment by faith. There is no other way through the gate.


If you have God's Holy spirit, of course you can keep His Ten commandments...it is not difficult...thou shall have no other God's before thee, thou shall not bow down to graven images, thou shall not take the name of God in vain, Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy,honour your father and mother, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, thou shall no bear false witness, thou shall not covet your neighbours things....ianyone who cannot keep these and calls themselves christian better seek help fast.

 

[kerwin]

H.Richard,

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
NKJV

The translators either did a poor job translating the words or you misunderstand the grammar. In English the correct grammar for the way interpret it is "we do not sin".

 

[heretoeternity]

Of corsue they do, His laws are Holy and good, but His laws being Holy Kill all who touch them, That is why when moses asked to se His face God hid Moses in the cleft of a rock and di not allow moses to see His face but allowed him so see him from behind. That is why Christ died for us so we would no longer be "condmned by our sin", not by the law, it is our sin that God cant look upon, its Christs rightousness that we are given and puton when we come to Christ that allows God to look at us, for he sees Christs rightousness not our own. But you cannot keep the law, no man could so to say you do is a lie and foolish, but you cant say you do for it would make you a liar, and if your say you dont it shoots your "Reasoning" full of holes, for all men have sinned which according to you. means you broke the law. You cant win, the law is death to all of us for it is Holy and we are not.



Who told you that rubbish you are parroting about not being able to keep the Ten commandments....it is easy if you have God's holy spirit and quit following the satanic teachings you are obviously parroting. Jesus said of the commandments in Matthew, He gave us the spirit of the law as well as the law itself..for example he said "if one looks on a woman with lust, he has already committed adultery with her" and "and if anyone hates his brother without cause he has killed his brother"...and this applies to all the commandments...of course, everyone has bad thoughts from time to time, and it is necessary to pray for forgiveness and it will be given you, but God's Holy Spirit will keep a person from these thoughts and from breaching these commandments...
But if your head is filled with satanic garbage that you have been taught, there is still hope for you to pray to God, and ask Him to guide you and help you and He will if you heart is sincere.
Remember James 2 "faith without works is dead" and Revelation 22 as Jesus said "behold I come quickly and my reward is with me for every man according to his works."

 

[mjrhealth]

, everyone has bad thoughts from time to time

And you just sinned, and broke the law. See it is impossible unless you are Jesus. .And Him you are not. Of course feel free to explain how for 6000 years people could not have sinned because Moses had not yet received the law???, and according to you" sin is breaking the law".

 

[heretoeternity]

And you just sinned, and broke the law. See it is impossible unless you are Jesus. .And Him you are not. Of course feel free to explain how for 6000 years people could not have sinned because Moses had not yet received the law???, and according to you" sin is breaking the law".







You are wrong again...very wrong.....try reading your Bible, so you are better equipped to participate...According to Apostle John "sin is transgression of the law"..you see..Apostle John wrote it, not me...so you are saying falsehoods which is not surprising....The law is not burdensome..according to John in 1st John...so try chewing on that for a while, and see what falsehoods you can come up with...

 

[mjrhealth]

sin is transgression of the law

And so it also says

Joh_1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

So untill Moses there was no law, so how could they sin?? See that is how religion begins, they take one bit of the bible and make it into an idol at teh expense of teh truth, and you tell me I should read teh bible, yours seems to only have one verse.

Rom_2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

And yes you are right, if you had grace the law would not be a burden and you would not be sitting here boasting of how you keep it when we all know you cannot.

It is Christ who is the truth that sets man free not the law, as you have proven to us over and over again.

 

[heretoeternity]

And so it also says

Joh_1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

So untill Moses there was no law, so how could they sin?? See that is how religion begins, they take one bit of the bible and make it into an idol at teh expense of teh truth, and you tell me I should read teh bible, yours seems to only have one verse.

Rom_2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

And yes you are right, if you had grace the law would not be a burden and you would not be sitting here boasting of how you keep it when we all know you cannot.

It is Christ who is the truth that sets man free not the law, as you have proven to us over and over again.




You are wrong again! You not doing too well MJR....Apostle John in 1st John says "the law is not burdensome"...meaning the commandments of God are not a problem to keep for those who have God's Holy spirit....if you do not have God's Holy spirit, then you have the adversary (satan) spirit, you will not want to or be able to keep God's royal law of love, the Ten commandments....

 

[mjrhealth]

.meaning the commandments of God are not a problem to keep for those who have God's Holy spirit

Yes the law is not a burden to me but it certainly is to you who seeks not to promote Christ and His works but the law and your works, for those in Christ have but one law and that is Love, and in this all that are His walk and it is greater than all the laws.

Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Gal_5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom_13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[heretoeternity]

Yes the law is not a burden to me but it certainly is to you who seeks not to promote Christ and His works but the law and your works, for those in Christ have but one law and that is Love, and in this all that are His walk and it is greater than all the laws.

Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Gal_5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom_13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Good quotes, but you fail, because you missed the point..of course the ten commandments are the law of Love, as James said in his epistle...if you love God with all your heart soul and mind you will keep the first four, and if you love your neighbour as yourself you will keep the last 6 no problem....if this is a problem to you, you should do a spirituality check, and find out what spirit you are actually following..it is not the spirit of God, obviously.

 

[kerwin]

Rom_13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

A nice passage but many give a new meaning to the word love. Those that Love obey all the Law because that is what fulfilling the Law means. Sin is a warning that a person is not being loving.

 

[heretoeternity]

Rom_13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.[/size]
A nice passage but many give a new meaning to the word love. Those that Love obey all the Law because that is what fulfilling the Law means. Sin is a warning that a person is not being loving.[/size]

You got it reversed, those who follow God's commandments, demonstrate love of God, and love of neighbour.

 

[mjrhealth]

Well HTE I hope one day you will give in to Christ, you have no idea of what Christ did for us, for if you did, you would be glorifying Him and not the law as you do.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Rom 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
Joh 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Joh 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
Joh 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth

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