Zao is life
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This topic is contentious for at least three reasons.
1. Many modern Jews believe they are still the chosen spiritual source of God’s wisdom and holiness as the ‘superior’ people on earth.
2., Many Christians believe that these modern Jews since Christ are the actual physical and even the spiritual descendants of Israel or at least from the house of Judah. They have built some of their spiritual doctrine of prophecy (for example, dispensationalism) based on it. And they won't give it up without a fight.
And 3., Christ united all physical tribes, including Israel, all nations, under one Spirit and one Body for the Father. And he is its lord Christ who did not replace Israel of the Law; he incorporated them into the covenant of grace with the new Israel of today.
This is true Israel we have today, in the hearts of a believer, from any origin, culture or nationality. Life blood does not count anymore, only the spiritual blood of life given by the Father and Son. And then these modern Jews were DNA tested and flunked 'the test'..more on this later.
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In my opinion the world is going to be judged by all this. Because for 1,878 years Jews in the nations were slandered, misrepresented, maligned, unjustly treated, and sometimes even slaughtered in pogroms and finally, in the holocaust.
The Zionist Jews had good reason to want a homeland for the Jews, and God knew it. BUT they continued to reject Christ, so were not Israel. Then this happened:
In 1947 and 1948, by the stroke of a pen, the General Assembly of the United Nations said to the Jews, in effect:
1. "OK Jews, we'll give you your homeland in Palestine - but not in the land biblically allotted by God to Judah/the Jews, a.k.a "The West Bank". No, we'll continue to call that part of the territory "Palestine" and that part will be given to your bloodthirsty enemies who hate you with an ancient hatred, and want nothing else than to eradicate every Jew from the entire land we are giving you, and to wipe your country, a.k.a "Israel" off the map.
2. We'll continue to deal treacherously with you by
(a) Giving military aid and money to you, but also giving money - lots of money - to your enemies who want to annihilate you, so as to ensure they remain strong enough to forever be a thorn in your flesh; and
(b) We'll continue to pressure you through the resolutions repeatedly passed by our (United) nations to make impossible concessions with those who hate you and do not want peace with you. You will continue to be condemned without a cause and blamed for the misdeeds of your enemies who hate you.
( c ) We will also not allow you to adequately defend yourselves and your state against those who hate you and want nothing else than your annihilation.
God has seen, and God is 100% just.
In short, in 1947 and 1948, by the stroke of a pen, the General Assembly of the United Nations signed their own title deed to their own graveyard, by their first treacherous action of many to follow, and after signing their own title deed to their own graveyard, the nations have continued to dig their own graves in the state called "Israel".
When God judges the nations in the graveyard of the nations, it will not be because Jews who are not in Christ are "Israel", nor "because they are Jews" - but because God is 100% just. He destroyed Babylon after He used Babylon the judge the Jews.
The cities of the nations that John saw falling when the 7th bowl of wrath was poured out, will be judged in the Valley of Jehoshaphat.
God has allowed the nations to dig their own graves in their own graveyard. Not because Jews who are not in Christ are "Israel", nor "because they are Jews", but because the world is evil - and it's all the nations who have been digging their own graves in their own graveyard that will be judged: Those who have a bloodthirsty, blind hatred for the Jews of the state called "Israel", and want them annihilated or driven into the sea, as well as those who have dealt so treacherously with the state they created.
It has nothing to do with "the Jews" who do not believe in Jesus and everything to do with the way God preordained it.
IMO.
The Zionist Jews had good reason to want a homeland for the Jews, and God knew it. BUT they continued to reject Christ, so were not Israel. Then this happened:
In 1947 and 1948, by the stroke of a pen, the General Assembly of the United Nations said to the Jews, in effect:
1. "OK Jews, we'll give you your homeland in Palestine - but not in the land biblically allotted by God to Judah/the Jews, a.k.a "The West Bank". No, we'll continue to call that part of the territory "Palestine" and that part will be given to your bloodthirsty enemies who hate you with an ancient hatred, and want nothing else than to eradicate every Jew from the entire land we are giving you, and to wipe your country, a.k.a "Israel" off the map.
2. We'll continue to deal treacherously with you by
(a) Giving military aid and money to you, but also giving money - lots of money - to your enemies who want to annihilate you, so as to ensure they remain strong enough to forever be a thorn in your flesh; and
(b) We'll continue to pressure you through the resolutions repeatedly passed by our (United) nations to make impossible concessions with those who hate you and do not want peace with you. You will continue to be condemned without a cause and blamed for the misdeeds of your enemies who hate you.
( c ) We will also not allow you to adequately defend yourselves and your state against those who hate you and want nothing else than your annihilation.
God has seen, and God is 100% just.
In short, in 1947 and 1948, by the stroke of a pen, the General Assembly of the United Nations signed their own title deed to their own graveyard, by their first treacherous action of many to follow, and after signing their own title deed to their own graveyard, the nations have continued to dig their own graves in the state called "Israel".
When God judges the nations in the graveyard of the nations, it will not be because Jews who are not in Christ are "Israel", nor "because they are Jews" - but because God is 100% just. He destroyed Babylon after He used Babylon the judge the Jews.
The cities of the nations that John saw falling when the 7th bowl of wrath was poured out, will be judged in the Valley of Jehoshaphat.
God has allowed the nations to dig their own graves in their own graveyard. Not because Jews who are not in Christ are "Israel", nor "because they are Jews", but because the world is evil - and it's all the nations who have been digging their own graves in their own graveyard that will be judged: Those who have a bloodthirsty, blind hatred for the Jews of the state called "Israel", and want them annihilated or driven into the sea, as well as those who have dealt so treacherously with the state they created.
It has nothing to do with "the Jews" who do not believe in Jesus and everything to do with the way God preordained it.
IMO.
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