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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by aspen, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. Philip James

    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    Hes also smart to try and enlist Russias support agaist Europe, the beasts grows restless under its rider, but alas its destined to fail.. Russia willy ally with Europe against America.

    Peace!
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    "I will say this to the President," "Fox & Friends" co-host Brian Kilmeade said Tuesday morning. "When Newt Gingrich, when General Jack Keane, when Matt Schlapp say the President fell short and made our intelligence apparatus look bad, I think it's time to pay attention."
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    But don’t you see? When people stop trusting in the institution of their country (not blindly trusting, but a basic trust), they start looking out for themselves instead of working together? I am not interested into falling into chaos as a country because Of Trump seeling us out to our enemies and attacking the country he is supposed to serving.
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Yet, when Obama reached out to the leaders of the Middle East he was viewed as weak?
     
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    HammerStone Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Whilst I didn't necessarily disagree with the Obama handling with Iran - the diplomacy was a pig with lipstick to borrow a popular populist political analogy. Iran can get a bomb if Iran gets a bomb, and at best what Obama did was a hail mary on a rather hopeful delaying of the inevitable. It wasn't masterful diplomacy, it was simple prisoners' dilemma. Coincidentally, he got a Nobel prize for it before it was proven as to whether it worked or not. And now, we will never truly know that answer.

    One of the engaged countries posses at least equal ability to wipe us off the map, the other never will even with an arsenal maxed out at what they could afford. I will point out, also, that we engaged and worked with Stalin out of necessity. It seems the current choice is between a China who steals our technology or the Russians who don't like hostile war hawks. (See: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-coming-american-russian-alliance-against-china/) You can bet that we've carried out similar attacks on them and our media is not going to report that piece just like the media did not report about Stuxnet until years later.

    We had known Russian trolls on this forum during the Obama years; I watched the guy closely. It's nothing more than a poor man's cyber warfare. As the comment came to the public today, Russia sought to do nothing more than tarnish Clinton - which it turns out was something she was pretty good at doing herself. I've seen everything from racism to sexism to Russia blamed, but the truth was simply that she was a poor candidate, perfectly suited for any other time but right now.

    I think it's curious how conservatives are chided for choosing the better of two evils but liberals are perfectly happy to read national diplomatic policy into their favorite clips of Scripture to bludgeon conservatives with.

    All of these choices are political, just as President Obama made a political choice not to publicize the matter at the time. But please, drop the charade saying that it's just those darn conservatives and be honest about it.
     
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    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member

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    Well this IS a big concern, yes, and I agree with you. But if the institutions are corrupt then the corrupt members of them have to be exposed, and hopefully things be restored. But the whole thing is indeed very troubling. In fact, I was reading one article where if they indict Trump, that in and of itself will further destabilize the country, by undermining the systems under which it operates. I do believe a presiding President should be indicted if he has been found guilty, especially of something like collision with foreign powers to steal an election...

    But at the heart of it I think we have a genuine battle going on between good and evil, and believe it or not I think Trump is our last grace period in this country before things start turning really ugly. Hopefully I'm wrong.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    All you have to do is look at the bogus Iran deal and how Obama capitulated to the ayatollahs and mullahs of Iran to see that not only was he weak and inept, but he betrayed America in favor of state-sponsored Islamic terrorism. Where do you think all those billions of dollars given by him went? They funded Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, and a whole raft of terrorist groups supported by Iran to promote Jihad. At the same time, he made sure Israel would be isolated and reviled.
     
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    Now that is the root of the problem for all of us as I see it!

    "Get them busy fighting each other...while we prepare the trap for all of them."

    It is happening...we pick 'sides'... we get distracted...
    ...And as we know " A house divided.. etc "
    Or a country divided...and world divided...and the hordes of evil take over during the weakness and division.
    If they leave us long enough we will kill each other, then they don't have to do anything , but just back and wait.
    I feel the same about the Catholics v anti-Catholic Protestants.
    It's a ploy..and the devil loves it. "Divide and conquer. "


    ( Hey, I think that fast of your is working. :) )
     
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    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Verdict is still out, but thanks for the encouragement. :p
     
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    i notice that those doing either one are invariably doing the other one too.
    If you want to be in politics i think you pretty much have to belong to a "church?"
     
  11. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    I am not sure about that......
    However, both seem to attract people who are looking for security
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    And yet, you are blind to the snivelling performance from President Oz, yesterday, when he practically handed over the keys to the White house to a man who poisons his poilitical enemies both foriegn and domestic. Too tribal to see past your own blacl and white view of the world
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Hello Hammerstone,

    For the record, i wasnt in agreement with Obama’s diplomacy, but I do not think our standing in the world is worse off for it.
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    I sure wish Trumpsters would stop deflecting Trump’s gapping incompetence and probable criminality by deflecting to past presidencies and defeated candidates.
     
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    Is English your second language or have you had too many drinks? I know, blame it on your opioids.

    Your minority bias is showing.

    Guess what. I voted for Trump. I will vote for him again. You know why. Because of people like you. The liberal left which embraces all the minorities, has less in common with real America, than Russia does. Russia at this point in history, is more like the U.S than Democrats.

    Maxine Waters exercises terroristic threats against Republicans. And she is allowed to go free. Nothing has been done. Just think what would have been on the news if Trump had said that concerning Democrats.

    Trump is probably right. All this talk of Russian collusion is just bull. He cannot trust his F.B.I. or his C.I.A. to give him the truth. They are biased in their politics. He accepts what they say, what choice does he have.

    As I have said before, the divide is too great. We must separate. Else it will be a real civil war.

    Stranger
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Sounds like you can’t wait to pick up that gun. Um....if you’re used to reading our incompetent rulers tweets, you can navigate my posts.
     
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    Putin is the worlds best leader by far any day, when he talks he is fantastic and just nails the subject with ease, he points to the USA and says why do they want to become Communist and points out that he knows what such truly is he lived it and understands such a system totally in depth, but we get a bunch of half whits jump up saying that he does not know and try to manipulate all he says not to mention pathetic nonsense that Russia is still Communist.

    Why does the USA want to cause trouble with Russia, it should be embracing Russia nowadays and put the past behind us and move forward, but we had the Clinton Left want to go to war with Russia and we would most likely be in WW3 now, if that total moron Clinton took power, but the thing is that the USA has been run into the ground by very wealthy Satanic people on the extreme right and left and the Media is totally controlled by Zionist Jews, so we have a bankrupt USA with Satanic far right and left who are tampering in Russia 24/7 to destroy there right wing and making out that Putin is a monster 24/7.
    Russia is not bankrupt and the Satanist want there Gold and this is the case with all Socialist, they run there own Nations into the ground and when they run out of money and this happens all the time, they are game players much like a casino were everything is manipulated for the stupid foolish twerp that sets foot in their spider web.

    The USA was being run into the ground before Trump, with pathetic deals that only a drunken bum would agree to, not to mention pissing huge amounts of money up the wall on total nonsense giving money to there enemy's North Korea for one for years, do you know how much the USA tax payer has given this Communist moronic Nation over the years, rocket man would could not support his Army for a start without USA money given let alone have a fire cracker for a rocket.
    The USA built China up as well, it adds up to investments in Communism.

    It's all about empowering themselves over the people that the likes of the Satanic Clintons and there brood be it right or left are truly on about, it's about manipulating the masses of poor simple minded dolts that can't see past their own nose. it's all a game play some what like the Pied Piper playing a tune to lead the rats along with.
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    What gun?

    You quote me saying that the devil wants us all divided and fighting each other.
    And then you say "Sounds like you can't wait to pick up the gun" to Stranger.

    Not sure why you quoted mine in link with that.?
    It doesn't take much to confuse me!! ..but... that does! x

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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Wow....you know who else fits that description? Hitler. He was a great communicator! In fact, if you simply ignore he habit of mass murder and violent take over of other sovereign nations....lhe did a heck of a lot of good for Germany and the master race he didnt belong to.
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    :D :D
     
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