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Here’s what Putin “got” during his 45-minute press conference with Trump:
- He got recognition on the world stage alongside the US president.
- Trump didn’t criticize Putin for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election, or in European allies’ elections
- Trump said Putin’s offer to send Russian government investigators to look into Moscow’s election hacking was “an interesting idea.”
- Trump didn’t shame Putin for working with Iran to prop up Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and relentlessly bombing innocent civilians.
- Trump didn’t push back on Putin’s invasion of Ukraine or annexation of Crimea in 2014 or his attempt to take over Georgia in 2008.
- Trump didn’t condemn Russia for shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH-17 in 2014 or Moscow’s apparent use of a deadly nerve agent in the UK this year.
- Putin made Trump look bad by refusing to deny he had “compromising material” on the American leader.
That’s a lot of points on the board for Putin, but surely Trump matched — or even surpassed — those wins, right? In reality, it wasn’t even close.
Here’s what Trump gained (and all three of these points are potentially good for Putin too):
- The chance — albeit a small one — of continuing dialogue to significantly improve relations between the two countries
- The resumption of a joint business-focused, high-level working group to deepen US-Russia economic ties
- A vague declaration from Putin that Russia wants to extend a nuclear arms reduction treaty that would cap the use of both countries’ nuclear weapons
- He got recognition on the world stage alongside the US president.
- Trump didn’t criticize Putin for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election, or in European allies’ elections
- Trump said Putin’s offer to send Russian government investigators to look into Moscow’s election hacking was “an interesting idea.”
- Trump didn’t shame Putin for working with Iran to prop up Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and relentlessly bombing innocent civilians.
- Trump didn’t push back on Putin’s invasion of Ukraine or annexation of Crimea in 2014 or his attempt to take over Georgia in 2008.
- Trump didn’t condemn Russia for shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH-17 in 2014 or Moscow’s apparent use of a deadly nerve agent in the UK this year.
- Putin made Trump look bad by refusing to deny he had “compromising material” on the American leader.
That’s a lot of points on the board for Putin, but surely Trump matched — or even surpassed — those wins, right? In reality, it wasn’t even close.
Here’s what Trump gained (and all three of these points are potentially good for Putin too):
- The chance — albeit a small one — of continuing dialogue to significantly improve relations between the two countries
- The resumption of a joint business-focused, high-level working group to deepen US-Russia economic ties
- A vague declaration from Putin that Russia wants to extend a nuclear arms reduction treaty that would cap the use of both countries’ nuclear weapons
Hidden In Him
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I agree, Reggie. In fact, where it comes to Christianity and traditional values, many have noticed he's actually more favorable to both than the current political establishment in Washington is.
There's been a few threads posted on it here at this Forum:
https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/russia-the-leadership-in-christianity.25937/#post-405484
https://www.christianityboard.com/t...’-now-russia-says-it’s-u-s.19548/#post-224481
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Have you forgotten Obama's "apology tour"? Or that he in literally under the cover of night dropped billions and billions of taxpayer dollars to Iran, sponsor of terrorism/Jihad and one of the worst violators of human rights out there? Or that he worked to "normalize" relations with communist Cuba, another shining example of governmental tyranny and oppression?
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Did he have a secret meeting without anyone but translators. And i already mention obama’s trip to the middle east
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I take that as an indication that you do not see what is really going on. Did you scoff at Columbo too?
Columbo solved a case every week. Trump creates a new crisis every week and zero resolutions. It would seem you are comparing different fruits
"I could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters."
Guess he was telling the truth!
Guess he was telling the truth!
Curiosity question.
Are we Christians on this forum for real,or do we just claim the title,but not the actions?
Are we Christians on this forum for real,or do we just claim the title,but not the actions?
You all do know that Russia will attack America right?
God will fight that battle so I'm not worried,just wanted to get that out there for those who think Putin is such a nice guy,and do know that I'm not talking about the Christians in Russia.
It will all come to pass as written,and ain't a dang thing we can do about it.
God will fight that battle so I'm not worried,just wanted to get that out there for those who think Putin is such a nice guy,and do know that I'm not talking about the Christians in Russia.
It will all come to pass as written,and ain't a dang thing we can do about it.
Hidden In Him
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If you could, please provide the passage (or passages) you are basing this on.
I would never of thought that I would look up to and be supportive of a Russian Leader, such would of been beyond my wildest dreams, but then Putin is such a great man that's leading Russia out of them dark days of Communism, when you look into what he is saying he is a great man and our media are just so deranged.
I would never of thought that my Country and not to mention the USA and Europe would become so degenerate as it has become, in my wildest nightmare. it's become totally Satanic and Anti-Christ and a satanic mob have been at it for years working away in the churches, so as to undermine it, playing around with little children and getting away with it all for years for crying out loud, it's just proves that a Satanic mob has been at work and is still at work and I can see it's evil workings in our political propaganda and they have worked to take over our right wing party's.
The major dominating right wing party in Australia for years has become a Socialist party now and they have kicked out most of the conservatives in it's ranks and people from that party are now moving to the new party that I am a member of, The Australian Conservatives in droves and our party is just much like the old party's values but that major party is the one that has changed it's spots, but it still has the worst of greed controlling it as it always had and it's this that is it's power base, that all the Satanic greed driven dolts love about it and one can not persuade people like that to abandon that party only because they love money above everything in the world.
Our Australian far right wing party is called the Liberal Party, but the word Liberal in the USA means nothing like what we know our Liberal Party was to be here at all, it's totally different concept of the word liberal as to what the USA claims it to be.
The NWO is controlling all Nations now and who people vote for means bugger all truly now because our leaders have to follow the NWO regardless and our Leader is a man who if anyone knows or is bothered to look up his past, will know hat he is in bed with the worst of the worst of Bankers that ripped off millions of people to get as rich as he is and he wanted to join the Left wing party years ago but they turned him away because they did not believe he was a socialist but the fact is that he truly is a socialist, but just a totally greed driven one. he is a type of Socialist that most lower working class would hate but a socialist non the less.
Very wealthy people love nothing better than to manipulate people and what better way that to use socialism to there advantage and play people for fools as most are easy lead by propaganda because most can not think past there nose, they don't understand politics or business because they are just consumers who's only look to things like football as there life's meaning or drinking like an idiot or taking drugs like a moron, so they can't see jack about much that's going on around them at all and if they do they can't handle such, it's to much for them.
I would never of thought that my Country and not to mention the USA and Europe would become so degenerate as it has become, in my wildest nightmare. it's become totally Satanic and Anti-Christ and a satanic mob have been at it for years working away in the churches, so as to undermine it, playing around with little children and getting away with it all for years for crying out loud, it's just proves that a Satanic mob has been at work and is still at work and I can see it's evil workings in our political propaganda and they have worked to take over our right wing party's.
The major dominating right wing party in Australia for years has become a Socialist party now and they have kicked out most of the conservatives in it's ranks and people from that party are now moving to the new party that I am a member of, The Australian Conservatives in droves and our party is just much like the old party's values but that major party is the one that has changed it's spots, but it still has the worst of greed controlling it as it always had and it's this that is it's power base, that all the Satanic greed driven dolts love about it and one can not persuade people like that to abandon that party only because they love money above everything in the world.
Our Australian far right wing party is called the Liberal Party, but the word Liberal in the USA means nothing like what we know our Liberal Party was to be here at all, it's totally different concept of the word liberal as to what the USA claims it to be.
The NWO is controlling all Nations now and who people vote for means bugger all truly now because our leaders have to follow the NWO regardless and our Leader is a man who if anyone knows or is bothered to look up his past, will know hat he is in bed with the worst of the worst of Bankers that ripped off millions of people to get as rich as he is and he wanted to join the Left wing party years ago but they turned him away because they did not believe he was a socialist but the fact is that he truly is a socialist, but just a totally greed driven one. he is a type of Socialist that most lower working class would hate but a socialist non the less.
Very wealthy people love nothing better than to manipulate people and what better way that to use socialism to there advantage and play people for fools as most are easy lead by propaganda because most can not think past there nose, they don't understand politics or business because they are just consumers who's only look to things like football as there life's meaning or drinking like an idiot or taking drugs like a moron, so they can't see jack about much that's going on around them at all and if they do they can't handle such, it's to much for them.
That is incorrect. The money had come from the Shah of Iran and belonged to the people of Iran (and some of it came from the American taxpayers). It did not belong to the demonic and Satanic ayatollahs and mullahs (who hated the Shah) and who are presently controlling Iran, and preventing the people from having any say in the government, while they fund worldwide terrorism, and work on nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. The wealth of Iran is being squandered on evil deeds bu very evil men.
What people need to understand is that Obama was always a Muslim at heart, and he was supporting Jihad and ISIS while pretending to fight them. Not once did he ever use the term "Radical Islamic terrorism" to properly identify who was engaging in terrorism (which from their perspective is Jihad).
Maybe the correct question would or should be, 'Who is really a Christian?' as in a follower of Christ and who is just carrying the label? What would Jesus say?This does sound like a stupid question to everyone I am sure..but I can take a bit of kicking .......I think...
But WHY do we all "just believe" everything the Media feeds us? Why.
I haven't heard anyone say they have real info , first hand info ..
Every single one of us is being jerked by what we have read and heard.
When we pause and think about it...why are we Christians fighting amongst ourselves? We need to have each others backs right now..
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