So can you please tell me what my real name is, if you know so much about me?
I can't even get fellow Christains to believe what I believe, I will just speak as I believe to be true.
An Omniscient God Negates Free Will
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I can't even get fellow Christains to believe what I believe, I will just speak as I believe to be true.
Why is God indivisible? Where do you think your soul comes from? If God is unlimited then God can't be limited to being unlimited and must experience being limited as well. Experience - is the entire point of everything. Infinite knowledge has no meaning if nothing exists. If God didn't want to experience every possible experience, the universe would not even exist to begin with. The Bible says in multiple places (Revelations, 1 Corinthians, etc.) that everything will return to God. Everything. All things began with God and all things will have a unity of wills with God in the end. And as this is an event of the infinite, it means this has happened, is happening now, and will happen again in the future.
What explanation have trinitarians given you for their belief that their deity is indivisible?
That's been my argument for so long. How can I know someone through a wall of beliefs.
Doesn't the saying body, mind and soul originate from new-age believers. Shouldn't the phrase be coined (Body, mind and emotions) I find it a curious reality that feelings are generally disregarded in this worker day world.
Our emotional centre I think act as our sixth sense. Mirror neurons do confirm we understand our external environment with our emotional sensory perception. But what do we actually know about how our emotions function? Where's educational facilities for understanding how and why we feel? I don't think there are school's for learning our feelings.
I have not heard any decent arguments for God being indivisible. Even attempting to look it up online, I can't find any. Maybe there are some good arguments, but I am ignorant of them.
Anyways, I agree in a sense that God is indivisible: God is the only thing that exists and the only thing that can ever exist. An infinite consciousness which encompasses everything and nothing exists outside of.
So being that God encompasses everything, there is nothing outside of God to observe. God looks inward eternally. Each thing that exists is an aspect of God, it is a permanent part of God. So just like a person has a left eye and a right eye, each aspect of God has a unique perspective. This unique perspective can be said to be a "division" of God.
Were God not divisible, nothing could exist.
By the fruits you shall know the tree
Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
A soul is a real thing, separate from emotions. Emotions would be an aspect of the mind.
If you want to believe in a purely materialistic universe, then tell me the age of existence itself. I assume you will say infinite. Now this necessitates metaphysics to begin with, but that argument aside, the only way for anything to exist as an event of the infinite is cyclically. The author HP Lovecraft wrote "that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die". If existence cycles on and on forever, universes born and die, then anything that has happened before is destined to happen again. So even in a purely materialistic universe, you must conclude that there exists life after death.
Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
I don't discount a soul, it's just that you assume that because I don't believe alongside with you I must disregard idea's such as souls. Beyond that I have read the Bible enough to understand it's overall message, but why can't any Christian concede this.
Standard trinitarian fare. (As a Jewish monotheist, I reject it.)
In What Sense Is God a Unity?
The Bible speaks of the unity of God. Moses wrote. Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! (Deuteronomy 6:4). God Cannot Be Divided The doctrine
www.blueletterbible.org
Trinitarians should be talking with you about the idea that their deity “split himself apart”. Many of them can’t; and many of them just don’t care.
What is partialism in relation to the Trinity? | GotQuestions.org
What is partialism in relation to the Trinity? Are the members of the Trinity 100% God but not 100% of God?
www.gotquestions.org
I personally think that we create our souls here from earth. If I learn nothing about my existence here I create nothing later. That's it, I think that is fair. Why should anything living continue it's journey if it doesn't care to learn and expand it's understanding.
That’s not what Jesus thinks. He’s grounded in scripture; you’re not.
Who cares what Jesus thinks?
You said "body mind and soul" should be replaced with "body mind and emotion" which seemed to me to be implying that you did not believe in a metaphysical soul.
I don't know what your full position is, I haven't read this thread from the beginning. You'll have to clue me in.
I wouldn't describe myself as a trinitarian.Standard trinitarian fare. (As a Jewish monotheist, I reject it.)
In What Sense Is God a Unity?
The Bible speaks of the unity of God. Moses wrote. Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! (Deuteronomy 6:4). God Cannot Be Divided The doctrine
Anyways, I can prove that God is divisible very easily: God is omnipresent, correct? If God is omnipresent, then God is in you. If God is in you, then you are a part of God. If God can have parts, then God can cause Himself to experience being limited.
Jesus as he taught would expect me to leave places like these. Paul said
1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.
I can recite numerous New Testament passages where for the sake of faith a believer should not associate with Christians who are puffed up and hypocritical. Paul says in the beginning of the letter Romans that if you think you are guide to the blind check your walk first.
To elaborate on this a little:
In what realm does omnipotence exist? In the realm of the mind. Your existence, is within God's mind. This makes you an aspect of God's consciousness.
I don't know what your position is, and I am only responding to what you are saying recently.
Many humans doMany believers have that plank in eye syndrome
While I believe you have some understanding of Jesus, you aren’t a follower of him. What good will that do you?
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