Are there differences between the 1644/1646 and 1689 Baptist Confessions?

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YES, there are major and important differences between the First and Second London Confessions of Baptists. For instance, the following important points -

There is NO mention of the Ten Commandments, Old Covenant or the Sabbath in the 1644/1646 Confession.

Also, importantly, In the 1644/1646 Confession, faith is the "manifestation" of justification, not the means or instrument thereof.
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This involves the timing of justification: is it at God's decree along with election, prior to the creation; or, at the resurrection of Jesus Christ; or is it at the time when a believer first believes? I can see justification from all 3 perspectives, but that is a topic for another thread. :)

The First London Confession of Baptists is clearly a "New Covenant" Confession, not a modified copy of the Presbyterian Westminster Confession, as is the 1689 Second London Confession of Baptists.

Statements from the 1644/1646 Baptist Confessions:

XXV "The preaching of the gospel to the conversion of sinners, is absolutely free; no way requiring as absolutely necessary, any qualifications, preparations, or terrors of the law, or preceding ministry of the law, but only and alone the naked soul, a sinner and ungodly"

XLVIII 1646 " Surely it is our wisdom, duty, and privilege, to observe Christ's laws only," **NOT the Ten Commandments

X 1644 "Jesus Christ only is made the Mediator of the New Covenant, even the everlasting covenant of grace between God and man"

XXIX - "All believers are a holy and sanctified people, and that sanctification is a spiritual grace of the New Covenant, and an effect of the love of God manifested in the soul, whereby the believer presses after a heavenly and evangelical obedience to all the commands, which Christ as head and king in His new covenant hath prescribed to them"

XXVIII - "...justification is a gracious and full acquittance of a guilty sinner from all sin, by God, through the satisfaction that Christ hath made by His death for all their sins, and this applied (in manifestation of it) through faith."

I do hold to the 1644/1646 Confession of Baptists. In it there is no debate about a sabbath or what day of the week are we to worship, etc. Christians are not under the Ten Commandments, the Old Covenant. We are under Christ's law, not Mosaic Law!
 
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XLVIII 1646 " Surely it is our wisdom, duty, and privilege, to observe Christ's laws only," **NOT the Ten Commandments

My government prefers I follow there laws no matter what religion I practice.

I do hold to the 1644/1646 Confession of Baptists. In it there is no debate about a sabbath or what day of the week are we to worship, etc.
The Sabbath is not about what day of the week we are to worship. Honestly, I worship each and every day throughout each and every day. Sometimes I worship with others throughout the week. In person, it is often on Saturdays or Sundays, mostly as of late. Sometimes I worship with others online.
 
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YES, there are major and important differences between the First and Second London Confessions of Baptists. For instance, the following important points -

There is NO mention of the Ten Commandments, Old Covenant or the Sabbath in the 1644/1646 Confession.

Also, importantly, In the 1644/1646 Confession, faith is the "manifestation" of justification, not the means or instrument thereof.
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This involves the timing of justification: is it at God's decree along with election, prior to the creation; or, at the resurrection of Jesus Christ; or is it at the time when a believer first believes? I can see justification from all 3 perspectives, but that is a topic for another thread. :)

The First London Confession of Baptists is clearly a "New Covenant" Confession, not a modified copy of the Presbyterian Westminster Confession, as is the 1689 Second London Confession of Baptists.

Statements from the 1644/1646 Baptist Confessions:

XXV "The preaching of the gospel to the conversion of sinners, is absolutely free; no way requiring as absolutely necessary, any qualifications, preparations, or terrors of the law, or preceding ministry of the law, but only and alone the naked soul, a sinner and ungodly"

XLVIII 1646 " Surely it is our wisdom, duty, and privilege, to observe Christ's laws only," **NOT the Ten Commandments

X 1644 "Jesus Christ only is made the Mediator of the New Covenant, even the everlasting covenant of grace between God and man"

XXIX - "All believers are a holy and sanctified people, and that sanctification is a spiritual grace of the New Covenant, and an effect of the love of God manifested in the soul, whereby the believer presses after a heavenly and evangelical obedience to all the commands, which Christ as head and king in His new covenant hath prescribed to them"

XXVIII - "...justification is a gracious and full acquittance of a guilty sinner from all sin, by God, through the satisfaction that Christ hath made by His death for all their sins, and this applied (in manifestation of it) through faith."

I do hold to the 1644/1646 Confession of Baptists. In it there is no debate about a sabbath or what day of the week are we to worship, etc. Christians are not under the Ten Commandments, the Old Covenant. We are under Christ's law, not Mosaic Law!
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