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As a former Catholic myself I can say this: Your picture of the wafer is not Holy and it is not Jesus. It is idolatry.
As a former Catholic I say to you: Escape these doctrines of demons and run into the Grace of Christ - PLEASE Read Ephesians and the Gospel of John. The Catholic church will be burned with fire upon the Lord's Return - the Pope and the Vatican are wolves in sheeps clothing as are many pedophile preists.
These posts have been reported to the moderators as rule violations. One reason the internet is so flooded with anti-Catholicism is because it makes lots of money.Are you referring to something I said??? I know the Catholic church is pure evil. There is only One Holy Temple and it is His Body which we whom know Him consist as Living Stones built up into a Spiritual House - the House of God. 1 Peter 2: 1-5
“Here are my mother and my brothers" serve as models for all those seeking to be more like Christ. Jesus elevates "whoever does the will of my Father" to the level of His mother and brothers who do the will of God. That's the point of all Marian devotion that anti-Catholics are stubbornly blind to. If Jesus was putting His mother down in any way, He would be violating the 4th commandment "Honor your father and mother". The standard abuse of these verses makes Jesus a sinner. Mary is the perfect model of faith who did the will of God perfectly, and did so as a mere human. Matthew 12: 46-50 is not the "gotcha verse" you think it is.Worth Repeating Here = Matthew 12: 46-50
While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you."
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Not one reformer taught this lie, and no Protestant before the 18th century accepted it. This lie crawled out of the sewage of the false philosophies of the Enlightenment Era that also "enlightened" Europe with formalized atheism and communism. This lie is a 200 year old man made tradition. This lie has infected segments of Protestantism like a virus.Mary had children with her betrothed husband Joseph - They never divorced and God did not take her away from Joseph.
Apparently you haven't been reading the thread.Worth Repeating Here = Matthew 12: 46-50
While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you."
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Mary had children with her betrothed husband Joseph - They never divorced and God did not take her away from Joseph.
Wrong again.Catholicism is not Christianity and is at war with the Saints.
There is nothing "Christian" in your hatred. Good bye.Catholicism is not Christianity and is at war with the Saints.
Uh-huh - and "Pope" is not a title, but a simple term of endearment.
Luke 1:28 is proof of Mary's sinlessness
In verse 5, we see that God keeps company with the "RIGHTEOUS".
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You like to toss the word ignorant around;
Yet you have not yet come to the understanding of How or When or Why
unrighteous men ...become righteous.
Gee - and I though "NONE" were righteous . . .
Gee... maybe he was refering to certain people that claim they are serving the Lord, using his Name, but corrupting His Word.
Matt 7:21-22
Luke 1:
[28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Hi Mary, you are highly favored....
Why?
Because;
....you are a Jew
....you live in Judah
....you have a virgin womb
....you are betrothed to a man of the House of David.
....God wants to send His Word to the Lost Jews very soon.
....God has prepared a body for His Word.
Luke 1
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
Luke 1
[31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luke 1
[32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
[33] And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Oh, oh, I see, "lost Jews", "Gods Word", "virgin womb", "Joseph his father, of the House of David" "ruler over Israel"....Awesome!
Luke 1
[38] And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
OH...and that is ALSO WHY Mary was Highly Favored...
....Faithful
....a godly woman
....And most agreeable to Serve her God!
No need to make up nonsense, and call Mary what she was NOT, when Scripture tells exactly why she was Highly Favored!
Many Servants of God were Favored. Mary gets the boost of "highly", since only she alone was given the Honor to Serve God by having the Lord revealed forth from her womb....
And by her bethrothal to Joseph...and subsequent marriage....MADE JESUS, Lawfully Entitled ( By Jewish Law ) TO SIT on king Davids everlasting Throne! And Also MADE JESUS, a ( Lawful ) descendant of ABRAHAM, and heir to Abraham's Promised LAND!
After Jesus' accession, Jesus' Apostles, Some Disciples, men and women and Mary received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit....Just as Jesus said they would.
Mary's special gift from God?
A blessing;
Luke 1
[28] ... blessed art thou among women.
Mary being "highly favored" says nothing about her being favored "because she was sinless"!
Open the Bible and read the truth...
Mary was a faithful servant.
You tarnish her reputation with nonsense.
“Here are my mother and my brothers" serve as models for all those seeking to be more like Christ. Jesus elevates "whoever does the will of my Father" to the level of His mother and brothers who do the will of God. That's the point of all Marian devotion that anti-Catholics are stubbornly blind to. If Jesus was putting His mother down in any way, He would be violating the 4th commandment "Honor your father and mother". The standard abuse of these verses makes Jesus a sinner. Mary is the perfect model of faith who did the will of God perfectly, and did so as a mere human. Matthew 12: 46-50 is not the "gotcha verse" you think it is.
Not one reformer taught this lie, and no Protestant before the 18th century accepted it. This lie crawled out of the sewage of the false philosophies of the Enlightenment Era that also "enlightened" Europe with formalized atheism and communism. This lie is a 200 year old man made tradition. This lie has infected segments of Protestantism like a virus.
Uhhhhhh, that's NOT what the Angel said to Mary in Luke 1:28.Luke 1:
[28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Hi Mary, you are highly favored....
Why?
Because;
....you are a Jew
....you live in Judah
....you have a virgin womb
....you are betrothed to a man of the House of David.
....God wants to send His Word to the Lost Jews very soon.
....God has prepared a body for His Word.
Luke 1
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
Luke 1
[31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luke 1
[32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
[33] And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Oh, oh, I see, "lost Jews", "Gods Word", "virgin womb", "Joseph his father, of the House of David" "ruler over Israel"....Awesome!
Luke 1
[38] And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
OH...and that is ALSO WHY Mary was Highly Favored...
....Faithful
....a godly woman
....And most agreeable to Serve her God!
No need to make up nonsense, and call Mary what she was NOT, when Scripture tells exactly why she was Highly Favored!
Many Servants of God were Favored. Mary gets the boost of "highly", since only she alone was given the Honor to Serve God by having the Lord revealed forth from her womb....
And by her bethrothal to Joseph...and subsequent marriage....MADE JESUS, Lawfully Entitled ( By Jewish Law ) TO SIT on king Davids everlasting Throne! And Also MADE JESUS, a ( Lawful ) descendant of ABRAHAM, and heir to Abraham's Promised LAND!
After Jesus' accession, Jesus' Apostles, Some Disciples, men and women and Mary received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit....Just as Jesus said they would.
Mary's special gift from God?
A blessing;
Luke 1
[28] ... blessed art thou among women.
Mary being "highly favored" says nothing about her being favored "because she was sinless"!
Open the Bible and read the truth...
Mary was a faithful servant.
You tarnish her reputation with nonsense.
That's good because I've NEVER made the claim that these "brethren" were "spiritual brothers".There is a simple explanation to the issue of Jesus' brothers and sisters, without giving to them a symbolic or allegorical meaning. The scripture actually says that His brothers at one time didn't believe He was the Messiah. This negates any fanciful idea that any reference to brothers or sisters must mean spiritual brothers. So while retaining the concept of Mary's continuing virginity, for there is no reason not to, there is no reason to discount the idea that Joseph had his own children by his previous marriage, him now being a widower, thus the brothers and sisters referred to throughout the NT as being Jesus' own family, were half brothers and sisters.
Nope - you Protestants can't have it BOTH ways.You like to toss the word ignorant around;
Yet you have not yet come to the understanding of How or When or Why
unrighteous men ...become righteous.
Gee - and I though "NONE" were righteous . . .
Gee... maybe he was refering to certain people that claim they are serving the Lord, using his Name, but corrupting His Word.
Matt 7:21-22
Look - I know it's embarrassing for you when you are proven wrong - but just take your lumps and move on.
Uhhhhhh, that's NOT what the Angel said to Mary in Luke 1:28.
First of all - he never said "hail" anything.
can't have it BOTH ways.
Either there is NONE righteous - or there ARE some who are righteous -
"Pope" is NOT a title...
No, "Kecharitomene".Spanked!
TRANSLATION:Spiritual Understanding Supersedes your Carnal Understanding.
Col 1
[9] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
Prayers FOR YOU;
Rom 8:
[7] Because the canal mind enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Like I said - I realize how humiliating this is for you to be proven wrong - but get over it already . . .You don't have to call your Pope, Pope, or Pope Francis, or Vicar of Christ or any other of list of titles and names Catholics have assigned to themselves...You can refer to him as plain old "Jorge"... just as his name appears in the official Catholic annual directory as; “Jorge Mario Bergoglio".
Splintering Catholics.