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Charlie24

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I thought you felt that way Charlie, and that was true of the pre-Christian Jews, even though only those from the tribe of Judah was actually Jews, kind of early profiling. Christian Jews are anointed Christians from all nations, peoples, tribes, and tongues Rev 5:9,10. Since they are not necessarily descendants of Judah, Paul described them for us this way: (Romans 2:28, 29) . . .he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision something on the outside, on the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people.

Those Jews make up the 144k sir, and are itemized by tribe in Rev 7, and then contrasted to the other sheep in verse 9 which are innumerable, who survive the tribulation. The Jews already being gone, as they have met the Lord in the air upon his return. 1 Thes 4:17

This is a form of replacement theology! The Church has not permanently replaced Israel and neither is a Gentile considered a Jew by faith in Christ.

In Rom. 2:28-29, Paul is discussing the salvation of the Jews. The Jews believed they were accepted of God by merely being the natural seed of Abraham. Paul says they are not, and that the outward circumcision (the Law) requires an inward circumcision (being born again) for the Jew to be accepted of God.

The audacity of the JW's in believing they are the spiritual Jews that comprise the 144,000 is the butchering of the Holy Scriptures, not to mention the ego and pride among this cult!
 

Ezra

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Born again / justified declared righteous
 

mailmandan

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Those who are born again are accounted as righteous in the eyes of God. Works righteousness (self righteousness) along with moral self-reformation is not a substitute for regeneration and the righteousness of God which is by faith. (John 3:3; Romans 4:5-6; Philippians 3:9)
 

Johann

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Robert,

if you are not born again, you are this.

John 3:36
Joh 3:36 And he who believes in (has faith in, clings to, relies on) the Son has (now possesses) eternal life. But whoever disobeys (is unbelieving toward, refuses to trust in, disregards, is not subject to) the Son will never see (experience) life, but [instead] the wrath of God abides on him. [God's displeasure remains on him; His indignation hangs over him continually.] [Hab_2:4]


Just for him to read this.
 
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