You literally agreed with what i said that God's Chruch is an organization. And yes, it is an organization because there is a hierarchy where the Father is at the very top and the lay members are at the very bottom. If God is not the author of confusion, His Church would logically reflect that, would it not? And just so you know, misquoting Christ doesn't make you right.
The Bible also teaches against the existence of denominations, so your argument definitely doesn't hold any weight. It helps to know what the Bible actually says before making any attempts to correct somebody. The Catholics don't get a lot right, but even they understand that God is only leading the 1 church on this planet that He built. God didn't build denominations, and He certainly didn't authorize them.
Where do you get off saying I said any of the things you just levied against me?
I have never said denominations were okay. I said the opposite. I am on record in more than one place saying that if the finger cuts itself off from the body, the finger (a denomination) dies.
So in all that it would appear you agree with me.
But your saying the church is an organization, made by men is the implication, is totally false. I corrected you by saying it is a Spiritual body. Nothing man-made about it. It is NOT an organization. A doctor would never describe the human body as a collection of tissue and blood and organs that are organized. That would be a crass thing to say.
Lastly, your thinking that the lay people are at the bottom is completely false and against what Jesus taught.
The Lord came to the earth to serve, not be served. And He taught the disciples to learn as much and teach others the same thing. If you would be great!, then you must become servant of all. And that is not a wording thing, but a true servant who gets into the mud and helps people out of the mud and find their footing.
You and all these denominations have it completely upside down. Paul said,
1 Co r2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
And this strong admonishment about false brethren vs. true:
2 Cor 11:7 Did I commit a sin in abasing myself so that you might be exalted, because I preached God's gospel without cost to you?
2 Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order to serve you.
2 Cor 11:9 And when I was with you and was in want, I did not burden any one, for my needs were supplied by the brethren who came from Macedonia. So I refrained and will refrain from burdening you in any way.
2 Cor 11:10 As the truth of Christ is in me, this boast of mine shall not be silenced in the regions of Achaia.
2 Cor 11:11 And why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do!
2 Cor 11:12 And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do.
2 Cor 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
And apparently you fit into this category that Paul wrote:
2 Cor 11:19 For you gladly bear with fools, being wise yourselves!
2 Cor 11:20 For you bear it if a man makes slaves of you, or preys upon you, or takes advantage of you, or puts on airs, or strikes you in the face.
(or tells you that he is over you because you are only a lay person!). I'm disgusted by what you write and how these false workers have made people believe such rubbish!
And Paul explains clearly the true meaning of being a servant of Christ. He continues:
2 Cor 11:23 Are they servants of Christ? I am a better one--I am talking like a madman--with far greater labors, far more imprisonments, with countless beatings, and often near death.
2 Cor 11:24 Five times I have received at the hands of the Jews the forty lashes less one.
2 Cor 11:25 Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been adrift at sea;
2 Cor 11:26 on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brethren;
2 Cor 11:27 in toil and hardship, through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure.
2 Cor 11:28 And, apart from other things, there is the daily pressure upon me of my anxiety for all the churches.
2 Cor 11:29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to fall, and I am not indignant?
2 Cor 11:30 If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.
2 Cor 11:31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
