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"""Christ is the end of the Law...for RIGHTEOUSNESS.....for every one who Believes"..

So, lets
look at the fact that Christ is the END of the LAW....for everyone who BELIEVES..

Now, are you trying to keep the law and commandments, thinking if you do, you are pleasing God and are a good disciple? ???

Well, if Christ is the end of the Law, and you are putting yourself under the law, proven by sinning and confessing and worrying that you have to always be confessing sin to STAY SAVED......the you are not obeying the truth or understanding that Christ is the END of THE LAW.

Listen born again believer....If Christ is the end of the Law, and you are trying to keep it to stay saved, worrying about it......then Who is right?
Are you right, in trying to keep what Christ has become the END of.....which is the Law?
You are not., and Paul says you are "not obeying the Truth".

Now let me explain all this to you., ... and you are not going to get this from your pope or from most pulpits in these last days, just before the Rapture.
So........Dont let that keep you from seeing the Light you'll find here.

Saint,

Let me show you how to SEE exactly what Salvation.....is all about.

Its so simple... but yet, its such a mystery.
Listen...
IN the Garden of Eden....Adam and GOD, were one spirit...They were in Spiritual union.
This Adam is the 1st Adam.
This 1st Adam broke His spiritual union with God by making a choice to disobey God's word to him.
This broken spiritual union became the "adamic nature", and every one of us ends up born with this issue of not being joined to God, Spiritually.
This has to be resolved before we die, or we will end up in hell.

SALVATION.....is God as Christ, who is the 2nd Adam, providing the only way that God allows us to become joined again to His Spirit, exactly as Adam was joined, originally to God.
You can think of salvation and teach it, as ..."How to return to first Adam"= Spiritually, as that is the way to understand it, perfectly.

Now, can you cause yourself to become re-joined to God's Spirit?
NO you can't.
IF you could by chasing law and commandments and good works..... then why did God as Christ have to come to earth to die for you?
God came here to die for you....and this is the : "Gift of Salvation".
Christ's Sacrifice is God's Gift to you. "The Gift of Salvation".

Enter: Moses LAW and the 10 COMMANDMENTS.

God created them to show you that you are in the lost spiritual condition.
That is why He created them... He had to show us , through the law and 10 commandments, that we are all a SINNER, unrighteous, unholy.... and are not acceptable to Him.

ENTER JESUS.. and THE CROSS. As Jesus on the Cross is offering Himself as the Atoning one time eternal Sacrifice to GOD on your BEHALF, so that God will accept you.
John 14:6

If you will take this sacrifice of Christ by faith, ....ALL THAT BELIEVE SHALL BE SAVED... = Christ's Finished Sacrifice ENDS the LAW and COMMANDMENT's ability to judge you, because you have received the righteousness that Christ provided to you for free, = HIMSELF being Sacrificed on The Cross for all of your sin.
And once all your sin is dealt with by the blood and death of Christ, then the law can't touch you, can't define you, and can't judge you ever again....because you are "MADE righteous"
This is why the NT says of the born again..>>"you are not under the law, you are UNDER GRACE"....and "Christ has redeemed us from the CURSE of THE Law".

To be ""UNDER GRACE"", is to be restored to spiritual union with God based on Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. This sacrifice of Christ's body and blood.. once applied to you by God through your FAITH....means you have received from God "the righteousness of GOD in Christ". = You are now "made righteous". Born again.
This is "the Gift of Righteousness".
This is "Salvation".

See that?

Once you are born again......you have been "made righteous" by God, and that Law and those 10 Commandments are no longer able to judge you, ever again.
This is why the NT says you are a ""SAINT", and a "Heir of God and a Joint Heir with Christ""...a '"SON OF GOD/Daughter of God""= exactly as Adam was, before He fell.

And you would say......"but if i sin again, like Adam did"....
And you have....many times you have committed works of the flesh.
And yet, Adam had no CHRIST ON THE CROSS to take care of all his sin..... and you do.
Adam had no "Heavenly Advocate" in Heaven making "intercession on his behalf, before God."
and You have this for as Long as GOD LIVES and CHRIST is ALIVE.
How long is that?
That is how long you belong to God once you are born again. = Forever.

Here is the Reality...
When you do something wrong....what you consider a sin.....God does not sees it because He only see the BLOOD and DEATH OF JESUS that has paid for it, already, 2000 yrs ago......on the CROSS
Romans 4:8
= "Christ is the END OF THE LAW for Righteousness"

Believe it.
 
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"""Christ is the end of the Law...for RIGHTEOUSNESS.....for every one who Believes"..

So, lets
look at the fact that Christ is the END of the LAW....for everyone who BELIEVES..

Now, are you trying to keep the law and commandments, thinking if you do, you are pleasing God and are a good disciple? ???

Well, if Christ is the end of the Law, and you are putting yourself under the law, proven by sinning and confessing and worrying that you have to always be confessing sin to STAY SAVED......the you are not obeying the truth or understanding that Christ is the END of THE LAW.

Listen born again believer....If Christ is the end of the Law, and you are trying to keep it to stay saved, worrying about it......then Who is right?
Are you right, in trying to keep what Christ has become the END of.....which is the Law?
You are not., and Paul says you are "not obeying the Truth".

Now let me explain all this to you., ... and you are not going to get this from your pope or from most pulpits in these last days, just before the Rapture.
So........Dont let that keep you from seeing the Light you'll find here.

Saint,

Let me show you how to SEE exactly what Salvation.....is all about.

Its so simple... but yet, its such a mystery.
Listen...
IN the Garden of Eden....Adam and GOD, were one spirit...They were in Spiritual union.
This Adam is the 1st Adam.
This 1st Adam broke His spiritual union with God by making a choice to disobey God's word to him.
This broken spiritual union became the "adamic nature", and every one of us ends up born with this issue of not being joined to God, Spiritually.
This has to be resolved before we die, or we will end up in hell.

SALVATION.....is God as Christ, who is the 2nd Adam, providing the only way that God allows us to become joined again to His Spirit, exactly as Adam was joined, originally to God.
You can think of salvation and teach it, as ..."How to return to first Adam"= Spiritually, as that is the way to understand it, perfectly.

Now, can you cause yourself to become re-joined to God's Spirit?
NO you can't.
IF you could by chasing law and commandments and good works..... then why did God as Christ have to come to earth to die for you?
God came here to die for you....and this is the : "Gift of Salvation".
Christ's Sacrifice is God's Gift to you. "The Gift of Salvation".

Enter: Moses LAW and the 10 COMMANDMENTS.

God created them to show you that you are in the lost spiritual condition.
That is why He created them... He had to show us , through the law and 10 commandments, that we are all a SINNER, unrighteous, unholy.... and are not acceptable to Him.

ENTER JESUS.. and THE CROSS. As Jesus on the Cross is offering Himself as the Atoning one time eternal Sacrifice to GOD on your BEHALF, so that God will accept you.
John 14:6

If you will take this sacrifice of Christ by faith, ....ALL THAT BELIEVE SHALL BE SAVED... = Christ's Finished Sacrifice ENDS the LAW and COMMANDMENT's ability to judge you, because you have received the righteousness that Christ provided to you for free, = HIMSELF being Sacrificed on The Cross for all of your sin.
And once all your sin is dealt with by the blood and death of Christ, then the law can't touch you, can't define you, and can't judge you ever again....because you are "MADE righteous"
This is why the NT says of the born again..>>"you are not under the law, you are UNDER GRACE"....and "Christ has redeemed us from the CURSE of THE Law".

To be ""UNDER GRACE"", is to be restored to spiritual union with God based on Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. This sacrifice of Christ's body and blood.. once applied to you by God through your FAITH....means you have received from God "the righteousness of GOD in Christ". = You are now "made righteous". Born again.
This is "the Gift of Righteousness".
This is "Salvation".

See that?

Once you are born again......you have been "made righteous" by God, and that Law and those 10 Commandments are no longer able to judge you, ever again.
This is why the NT says you are a ""SAINT", and a "Heir of God and a Joint Heir with Christ""...a '"SON OF GOD/Daughter of God""= exactly as Adam was, before He fell.

And you would say......"but if i sin again, like Adam did"....
And you have....many times you have committed works of the flesh.
And yet, Adam had no CHRIST ON THE CROSS to take care of all his sin..... and you do.
Adam had no "Heavenly Advocate" in Heaven making "intercession on his behalf, before God."
and You have this for as Long as GOD LIVES and CHRIST is ALIVE.
How long is that?
That is how long you belong to God once you are born again. = Forever.

Here is the Reality...
When you do something wrong....what you consider a sin.....God does not sees it because He only see the BLOOD and DEATH OF JESUS that has paid for it, already, 2000 yrs ago......on the CROSS
Romans 4:8
= "Christ is the END OF THE LAW for Righteousness"

Believe it.

Obedience is required for salvation, only those doing the will of Jehovah will be saved. Mat 7:21. Therefore I recommend what Jesus said at Luke 13:24, fight hard to get in.
 

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Obedience is required for salvation,


Yes, one.
One obedience is required.
This..

"the will of God is that you BELIEVE on JESUS>.......whom God sent'.

If you do that.....you are obedient to God's ONLY Requirement to apply the Blood Atonement to you....which is Salvation.....and there is no other.... John 14:6

I want to share with you one more concept..

Think of this Robert.

Lets say that Jesus is not come yet. He is not virgin born yet...>He is still in Heaven.........

No, you go and get water baptized 20 times this week.
Keep the law and the commandments, all your life.
Now, why will you die one day, having done all that, and NOT go to heaven?

Why is that Robert?

So, when you can understand this, the you will have for the first time understood why Christ's death and shed blood is the only reason God will accept you, and let you into heaven after you DIE.
John 14:6
 

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"""Christ is the end of the Law...for RIGHTEOUSNESS.....for every one who Believes"..

So, lets
look at the fact that Christ is the END of the LAW....for everyone who BELIEVES..

Now, are you trying to keep the law and commandments, thinking if you do, you are pleasing God and are a good disciple? ???

Well, if Christ is the end of the Law, and you are putting yourself under the law, proven by sinning and confessing and worrying that you have to always be confessing sin to STAY SAVED......the you are not obeying the truth or understanding that Christ is the END of THE LAW.

Listen born again believer....If Christ is the end of the Law, and you are trying to keep it to stay saved, worrying about it......then Who is right?
Are you right, in trying to keep what Christ has become the END of.....which is the Law?
You are not., and Paul says you are "not obeying the Truth".

Now let me explain all this to you., ... and you are not going to get this from your pope or from most pulpits in these last days, just before the Rapture.
So........Dont let that keep you from seeing the Light you'll find here.

Saint,

Let me show you how to SEE exactly what Salvation.....is all about.

Its so simple... but yet, its such a mystery.
Listen...
IN the Garden of Eden....Adam and GOD, were one spirit...They were in Spiritual union.
This Adam is the 1st Adam.
This 1st Adam broke His spiritual union with God by making a choice to disobey God's word to him.
This broken spiritual union became the "adamic nature", and every one of us ends up born with this issue of not being joined to God, Spiritually.
This has to be resolved before we die, or we will end up in hell.

SALVATION.....is God as Christ, who is the 2nd Adam, providing the only way that God allows us to become joined again to His Spirit, exactly as Adam was joined, originally to God.
You can think of salvation and teach it, as ..."How to return to first Adam"= Spiritually, as that is the way to understand it, perfectly.

Now, can you cause yourself to become re-joined to God's Spirit?
NO you can't.
IF you could by chasing law and commandments and good works..... then why did God as Christ have to come to earth to die for you?
God came here to die for you....and this is the : "Gift of Salvation".
Christ's Sacrifice is God's Gift to you. "The Gift of Salvation".

Enter: Moses LAW and the 10 COMMANDMENTS.

God created them to show you that you are in the lost spiritual condition.
That is why He created them... He had to show us , through the law and 10 commandments, that we are all a SINNER, unrighteous, unholy.... and are not acceptable to Him.

ENTER JESUS.. and THE CROSS. As Jesus on the Cross is offering Himself as the Atoning one time eternal Sacrifice to GOD on your BEHALF, so that God will accept you.
John 14:6

If you will take this sacrifice of Christ by faith, ....ALL THAT BELIEVE SHALL BE SAVED... = Christ's Finished Sacrifice ENDS the LAW and COMMANDMENT's ability to judge you, because you have received the righteousness that Christ provided to you for free, = HIMSELF being Sacrificed on The Cross for all of your sin.
And once all your sin is dealt with by the blood and death of Christ, then the law can't touch you, can't define you, and can't judge you ever again....because you are "MADE righteous"
This is why the NT says of the born again..>>"you are not under the law, you are UNDER GRACE"....and "Christ has redeemed us from the CURSE of THE Law".

To be ""UNDER GRACE"", is to be restored to spiritual union with God based on Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. This sacrifice of Christ's body and blood.. once applied to you by God through your FAITH....means you have received from God "the righteousness of GOD in Christ". = You are now "made righteous". Born again.
This is "the Gift of Righteousness".
This is "Salvation".

See that?

Once you are born again......you have been "made righteous" by God, and that Law and those 10 Commandments are no longer able to judge you, ever again.
This is why the NT says you are a ""SAINT", and a "Heir of God and a Joint Heir with Christ""...a '"SON OF GOD/Daughter of God""= exactly as Adam was, before He fell.

And you would say......"but if i sin again, like Adam did"....
And you have....many times you have committed works of the flesh.
And yet, Adam had no CHRIST ON THE CROSS to take care of all his sin..... and you do.
Adam had no "Heavenly Advocate" in Heaven making "intercession on his behalf, before God."
and You have this for as Long as GOD LIVES and CHRIST is ALIVE.
How long is that?
That is how long you belong to God once you are born again. = Forever.

Here is the Reality...
When you do something wrong....what you consider a sin.....God does not sees it because He only see the BLOOD and DEATH OF JESUS that has paid for it, already, 2000 yrs ago......on the CROSS
Romans 4:8
= "Christ is the END OF THE LAW for Righteousness"

Believe it.

God always has law - we are under the new covenant law, aka the law of Christ, aka the law of love found in the two love commands, aka the royal law.

We are not under the works of righteousness of the law of Moses in the old covenant, but there is still Gods law of love in effect.
 

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Yes, one.
One obedience is required.
This..

"the will of God is that you BELIEVE on JESUS>.......whom God sent'.

If you do that.....you are obedient to God's ONLY Requirement to apply the Blood Atonement to you....which is Salvation.....and there is no other.... John 14:6

I want to share with you one more concept..

Think of this Robert.

Lets say that Jesus is not come yet. He is not virgin born yet...>He is still in Heaven.........

No, you go and get water baptized 20 times this week.
Keep the law and the commandments, all your life.
Now, why will you die one day, having done all that, and NOT go to heaven?

Why is that Robert?

So, when you can understand this, the you will have for the first time understood why Christ's death and shed blood is the only reason God will accept you, and let you into heaven after you DIE.
John 14:6

Belief is certainly a requirement for sure, but without obedience to the rest of the law of the Christ, one would simply be like the demons who believe as well, but who chose to disobey, in other words no salvation. Salvation is dependent on accepting and obeying the laws given Christians.
 

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The word "telos"(that is commonly translated as "end") actually means "goal/purpose". The goal of keeping God's commandments and laws is to possess Christ's character and mind. By quoting Rom. 10:4 in an attempt to lie on Paul and blaspheme Christ, you are ironically highlighting your lack of knowledge and the fact that you are not practicing biblical Christianity. Instead of preaching an anti-law message in Rom. 10:4, Paul was actually preaching the exact opposite message.

Someone who refuses to keep God's commandments will never have Christ's character or mind. That's why so many "Christians" are trying to determine what is right and wrong for themselves like Adam and Eve did. And just like Christ told those 2 to get lost as the OT God, a lot of fake Christians are taking the foolish risk of hearing those same words from Him(Matt. 7:23).

The sheer confusion that exists in Catholicism and Protestantism stems from all of the sects in these groups wanting to do what seems right according to their own standards, even though the book of Judges shows us that the inevitable results of such thinking are never good. That's precisely why both faiths are nothing more than humanistic religions disguised as Christianity.
 

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The word "telos"(that is commonly translated as "end") actually means "goal/purpose". The goal of keeping God's commandments and laws is to possess Christ's character and mind. By quoting Rom. 10:4 in an attempt to lie on Paul and blaspheme Christ, you are ironically highlighting your lack of knowledge and the fact that you are not practicing biblical Christianity. Instead of preaching an anti-law message in Rom. 10:4, Paul was actually preaching the exact opposite message.

Someone who refuses to keep God's commandments will never have Christ's character or mind. That's why so many "Christians" are trying to determine what is right and wrong for themselves like Adam and Eve did. And just like Christ told those 2 to get lost as the OT God, a lot of fake Christians are taking the foolish risk of hearing those same words from Him(Matt. 7:23).

The sheer confusion that exists in Catholicism and Protestantism stems from all of the sects in these groups wanting to do what seems right according to their own standards, even though the book of Judges shows us that the inevitable results of such thinking are never good. That's precisely why both faiths are nothing more than humanistic religions disguised as Christianity.

So what in your opinion is "true Christianity"? What you personally believe?
 

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God always has law - we are under the new covenant law, aka the law of Christ, aka the law of love found in the two love commands, aka the royal law.
We are not under the works of righteousness of the law of Moses in the old covenant, but there is still Gods law of love in effect.

"Christ has redeemed us (the born again) from the CURSE of the Law".

The curse, is the Law's dominion authority to define you as a sinner.

The Blood of Jesus, has removed this dominion of the law, but putting each born again spirit here......."Translated from darkness TO Light".

This means the born again spirit exists where God exists... AS = "ONE with God", "In Christ", and there is no Moses Law or 10 commandments found in the Kingdom of God where the born again Spirit's (the body of Christ) exist.
 

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"Christ has redeemed us (the born again) from the CURSE of the Law".

The curse, is the Law's dominion authority to define you as a sinner.

The Blood of Jesus, has removed this dominion of the law, but putting each born again spirit here......."Translated from darkness TO Light".

This means the born again spirit exists where God exists... AS = "ONE with God", "In Christ", and there is no Moses Law or 10 commandments found in the Kingdom of God where the born again Spirit's (the body of Christ) exist.

Great post!
 
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"Christ has redeemed us (the born again) from the CURSE of the Law".

The curse, is the Law's dominion authority to define you as a sinner.

The Blood of Jesus, has removed this dominion of the law, but putting each born again spirit here......."Translated from darkness TO Light".

This means the born again spirit exists where God exists... AS = "ONE with God", "In Christ", and there is no Moses Law or 10 commandments found in the Kingdom of God where the born again Spirit's (the body of Christ) exist.

You obviously haven’t studied this issue enough. No, we’re not under the law of Moses - and every single time Paul mentions the law, works of the law, works of righteousness, he is always talking specifically and only about the law of Moses.

We are however, absolutely definitely and beyond dispute under the law of love, (as commanded in the two love commands, that superseded the Decalogue) and the law of Christ in the New Testament, if you don’t Know this, Then you are unlearned on this issue.

Paul is under the law of Christ, said he:

1Co 9:19 For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them.

1Co 9:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law.

1Co 9:21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.

1Co 9:22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.

Paul makes clear he’s not under the law of Moses, but IS under the law of God aka the law of Christ.

God always has law. The New Testament defines sin as the transgressing of God’s law, if that’s been done away with, there is no sin anymore and no one needs saved anymore.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

God always has law - The new covenant is the legal last will and testament of Christ Jesus that took effect at His death, says Hebrews, and we inherit eternal life, we are married to Jesus Christ - these are all legal terms showing that God still has law:

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Heb 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

Because we are married to Jesus Christ when we receive Him, we become the children of God per John 1:12, and we then become son and daughters in law, which happens through marriage.

Therefore you obviously don’t understand that we are still under God’s law - but not the law of Moses - because the two love commands we keep today fulfill all the law, said both Paul and Jesus:

Rom 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Rom 13:10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Gal 5:13
For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Gal 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”



 
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Great post!
Except I was right - we’re not under the works of the law for righteousness, aka the law of Moses, but God always has law. See my reply to him in post #11.
 

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Except I was right - we’re not under the works of the law for righteousness, aka the law of Moses, but God always has law. See my reply to him in post #11.
Salvation is not a matter of LAW (old or new); Salvation is a matter of Grace [Ephesians 2:8-10] - Saved comes from God [Ephesians 2:8-9] as a gift and our response is one of good works [Ephesians 2:10] to be walked in after God has saved us.

Love is a “Fruit of the Spirit” and the unsaved do not have the Holy Spirit and cannot have His fruit. It is the saved that receive the Spirit from which comes the fruit.
 
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So, lets look at the fact that Christ is the END of the LAW....for everyone who BELIEVES..
Then comes sanctification … no “Law” just walking in the Good Works prepared by God [Ephesians 2:10] and growing the the Fruit of the Spirit [Galatians 5:13-26] proving that ours is not a dead faith [James 2:14-26] as we grow together into one body [Ephesians 4:1-32].

Free from FEAR and free from the LAW.
 
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Salvation is not a matter of LAW (old or new); Salvation is a matter of Grace
Hence "The Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ". Hence "the Law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ". The purpose of the Law is to show sinners their sinfulness, and that they are totally incapable of keeping the Law perfectly. Hence we are justified by grace through faith in Christ and His finished work of redemption. PLUS NOTHING. At the same time, those who are saved by grace are under the Law of Christ.
 

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Salvation is not a matter of LAW (old or new); Salvation is a matter of Grace [Ephesians 2:8-10] - Saved comes from God [Ephesians 2:8-9] as a gift and our response is one of good works [Ephesians 2:10] to be walked in after God has saved us.

Love is a “Fruit of the Spirit” and the unsaved do not have the Holy Spirit and cannot have His fruit. It is the saved that receive the Spirit from which comes the fruit.
I correctly said we are under the law of love, aka the law of Christ, expressed as the two love commands.

Jesus said, you are my friends IF you obey my commands. His command IS Gods law, and He said the command he gives us is to LOVE one another.

Speaking of fruit, in John 15 Jesus states He is the vine, we are the branches - any branch that bears no fruit is CUT OFF of the vine of Jesus as a DEAD BRANCH, and burned.

And Peter agreed, writing we must MAKE our calling and election SURE by adding the list of fruits listed to our faith, so that IF we do that, we won’t fall, and will gain an entrance into heaven.

OSAS is not biblical. And God always has law, it’s the law of Moses with its works of righteousness that have ended.

The law of Christ that Paul said He is under, is in permanent effect.
 

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I correctly said we are under the law of love, aka the law of Christ, expressed as the two love commands.

Jesus said, you are my friends IF you obey my commands. His command IS Gods law, and He said the command he gives us is to LOVE one another.

Speaking of fruit, in John 15 Jesus states He is the vine, we are the branches - any branch that bears no fruit is CUT OFF of the vine of Jesus as a DEAD BRANCH, and burned.

And Peter agreed, writing we must MAKE our calling and election SURE by adding the list of fruits listed to our faith, so that IF we do that, we won’t fall, and will gain an entrance into heaven.

OSAS is not biblical. And God always has law, it’s the law of Moses with its works of righteousness that have ended.

The law of Christ that Paul said He is under, is in permanent effect.
The message is the same as that of James: Living Faith begets good works ... grafting begets fruit.
I stand by my claim that
  • We are not GRAFTED because we bore FRUIT.
  • We do not have FAITH because we did GOOD WORKS.
  • We are not SAVED because we obeyed ANY LAW.
Salvation is a matter of Grace [Ephesians 2:8-10] - Saved comes from God [Ephesians 2:8-9] as a gift and our response is one of good works [Ephesians 2:10] to be walked in after God has saved us.

We obey the Law of Christ because we ARE SAVED (we do not obey to GET saved).

(PS. you have misunderstood the relationship between the Law of Moses and the "Two Greatest Commandments", the two fulfill the many - not replace - but that is for another topic.)

OSAS is called Preservation of the Saints, as in "I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day." [John 6:39] or "Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified." [Romans 8:30], because "it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure." [Philippians 2:13] ... my BIBLE doesn't lie about such things and my God does what he says he will do. Any other "OSAS" is a "strawman" parody of what Scripture teaches.
 
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Except I was right - we’re not under the works of the law for righteousness, aka the law of Moses, but God always has law. See my reply to him in post #11.

You are a self defined Legalist who believes that Christ can't keep you saved.
So, there is your religion.
Its not good., as it denies the finished work of Jesus on the Cross.
 
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