Defining the NT Heretic

[BreadOfLife]

Can you rephrase your question so that it makes any sense?

I didnt say a word about Mary not being in heaven, along with all the Apostles.
I said that your Pope teaches that Mary is the 2nd Mediator, along with Christ.
Your church has Mary hanging on the walls in most of their sanctuaries.
Take a look around.
You are in a cult, and you are defending lies.

Then, if Mary is in Heaven with all of the Apostles - why can't she be asked to pray for us?
She is MORE alive that YOU are because she and ALL of those in Heaven have been made perfect in Christ (Rev. 21:27).

YOU'RE still being worked on (sanctified). Their sanctification is complete.
No "cults" here - just a more thorough understanding of the Gospel . . .

 

[Behold]

Then, if Mary is in Heaven with all of the Apostles - why can't she be asked to pray for us?

Because Mary can't hear you from Heaven is one reason..
Is Mary a God?
Are you kidding?
What are you thinking?
Oh thats right, you dont think, you just obey......

Also...
Mary was just a normal person on earth, who is now in heaven, just like thousands that died today.
They can't hear you, they can't see you.
Can you see them?
Stop being foolish, and recognize that you have been led down a dark trail that led to you believing in magic priests and the need for penance and twisting beads, and Popes that pray to Mary and consider her the "queen of heaven".
Wake up.
And if you wont, then at least its people like you that allow people like me to show people who are HERE< what you are doing, and how you think, so that they can see the spiritual deception that just gets crazier the more you write.

 

[BreadOfLife]

He translated what the Catholic Church recognizes as their manuscript.
He did not use the recognized Greek that created all real bibles.
The LATIN IS the corruption, genius.
Its HIS corrupted work, as i said that created the false "bible" that runs your cult.
Its this false bible that teaches that water is the "regeneration principle".
You can thank Jerome, but i'll just give the credit to where its do. = Satan.

It was Martin Luther who recognized his deceit, his reworking of the texts, into Theological Trash, including the "penance" for "repentance " that has you dancing on the Priest's strings whenever they give you a new hoop to jump through.
Ok Mr Ash Wed?
Ok Mr dying in a state of Grace?
Ok Mr i hope you dont burn too long in Purgatory?

You are conned by your "church".
You have been deceived by a clever clever man made religion that uses all the teachings of Jesus in a twisted way to keep its members deceived.

Ummmm - YOUR idiotic remark - not mine . . .
"This is a Catholic Cult word that Jerome mistranslated from the Latin Text."

Jerome didn't translate anything FROM the Latin.
He translated from the Greek - INTO Latin.

If you can't even get that straight - how can you expect me to take you seriously about anything else??

 

[BreadOfLife]

Because Mary can't hear you from Heaven is one reason..
Is Mary a God?
Are you kidding?
What are you thinking?
Oh thats right, you dont think, you just obey......

Also...
Mary was just a normal person on earth, who is now in heaven, just like thousands that died today.
They can't hear you, they can't see you.
Can you see them?
Stop being foolish, and recognize that you have been led down a dark trail that led to you believing in magic priests and the need for penance and twisting beads, and Popes that pray to Mary and consider her the "queen of heaven".
Wake up.

Mary - or anybody else doesn't need to be God to hear us.
they are IN CHRIST - and HE is God.

Heb. 12:1 assures us that those in Heaven absolutely SEE and HEAR us and admonishes us to behave accordingly:
Heb. 12:1
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles.

A "witness" is somebody who SEES and HEARS - otherwise they are NOT a witness. And, as I educated you earlier - Rev. 5:8 shows those in Heaven interceding on our behalf. They CAN'T intercede and take our prayers to God if they CAN'T hear us.

This isn't rocket science, son.

 

[Behold]

Ummmm - YOUR idiotic remark - not mine . . .
"This is a Catholic Cult word that Jerome mistranslated from the Latin Text."

Yes, i said "from", instead of "into."
no worries.

Now, that Vulgate text, that is corrupt that was later turned into the Catholic bible...
And it was even worse.
As a matter of fact, in was not until 1961 that Catholics were "allowed" to read their bible.
As the Catholic Cult leaders, wanted you to only learn it from THEM.
That was their way to keep their deceived sheep, deceived.
So, if we were having this Discussion in 1960, i'd have a bible, and you'd have NOTHING.
That's your "church".
Its been perverting God's word since about 500AD and was hiding it from its deceived sheep, till 1961.

That is what you are in.
Get out.
Find a way out, if you can care about the truth.

 

[Behold]

Mary - or anybody else doesn't need to be God to hear us.
they are IN CHRIST - and HE is God.

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Being surrounded by witnesses, who have gone before us, is not the Bible telling you that Mary is the Queen of heaven, can forgive your sin, and can hear your prayers.
That "cloud of witnesses", is not a reference to people who are living in the clouds.
Maybe you don't know this......seems so.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes, i said from, instead of into.
no worries.

Now, that Vulgate text, that is corrupt that was later turned into the Catholic bible...
And it was even worse.
As a matter of fact, in was not until 1961 that Catholics were "allowed" to read their bible.
As the Catholic Cult leaders, wanted you to only learn it from THEM.
That was their way to keep their deceived sheep, deceived.
So, if we were having this Discussion in 1960, i'd have a bible, and you'd have NOTHING.
That's your "church".
Its been perverting God's word since about 500AD and was hiding it from its deceived sheep, till 1961.

That is what you are in.
Get out.
Find a way out, if you can care about the truth.

More of your inane manure . . .

You comment in RED is a popular anti-Catholic fairy tale - but doesn't have any basis in truth.
Where do you guys come up with this excrement?false It's almost like you completely forgot that bearing FALSE witness is a sin (Exod. 20:16).

You can keep lying - but I'll just keep exposing you until YOU get to the same point that your fellow anti-Catholic @justbyfaith - who had to put me on "ignore" because I kept exposing his lies.

 

[Enoch111]

They can't hear you, they can't see you.

You are simply contradicting Scripture: Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us...(Heb 1:12)

Who was Paul talking about? Primarily the OT saints, but further down in the chapter he includes the NT saints (and Mary would be included among them).

What is the role of a witness in real life (particular when it comes to trials and witnesses are being examined)? A witness must be a living breathing person who is also an eye-witness to what transpired at the scene of crime. Otherwise he or she has no value.

If God calls the saints in Heaven witnesses, who are surrounding the saints on earth, then we must take that as Bible truth. The saints in Heaven see and hear what goes on on this earth. Which does not necessarily mean that we are to seek them for intercession, since Christ Himself intercedes for the saints on earth.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Being surrounded by witnesses, who have gone before us, is not the Bible telling you that Mary is the Queen of heaven, can forgive your sin, and can hear your prayers.
That "cloud of witnesses", is not a reference to people who are living in the clouds.
Maybe you don't know this......seems so.

And there you go again with your lies.
I've destroyed a LOT of anti-Catholics on this forum who didn't make it HALF as easy as YOU do.

Show me the Catholic teaching - from the Catechism - that says Mary can forgive our sins.
Happy hunting . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Being surrounded by witnesses, who have gone before us, is not the Bible telling you that Mary is the Queen of heaven, can forgive your sin, and can hear your prayers.
That "cloud of witnesses", is not a reference to people who are living in the clouds.
Maybe you don't know this......seems so.

You are simply contradicting Scripture: Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us...(Heb 1:12)

Who was Paul talking about? Primarily the OT saints, but further down in the chapter he includes the NT saints (and Mary would be included among them).

What is the role of a witness in real life (particular when it comes to trials and witnesses are being examined)? A witness must be a living breathing person who is also an eye-witness to what transpired at the scene of crime. Otherwise he or she has no value.

If God calls the saints in Heaven witnesses, who are surrounding the saints on earth, then we must take that as Bible truth. The saints in Heaven see and hear what goes on on this earth. Which does not necessarily mean that we are to seek them for intercession, since Christ Himself intercedes for the saints on earth.

And there you go.
This isn't exclusively a "Catholic" teaching.

@Enoch111 and I may disagree in intercession - but we agree on the Biblical truth about the "Witnesses" in Heb. 12:1.

 

[Behold]

And there you go.
This isn't exclusively a "Catholic" teaching.

@Enoch111 and I may disagree in intercession - but we agree on the Biblical truth about the "Witnesses" in Heb. 12:1.

The Pope prays to Mary.
The Pope believes that heaven has a "queen" in it, who was a "perpetual virgin", when the NT teaches that she had more children.
Your Pope tells you that Mary is praying for you, and you are to Pray TO her, as if she is Jesus and God, "co-equal" as "Mediatrix of all Graces"

""""Mediatrix of all graces is a title that the Roman Catholic Church gives to the Blessed Virgin Mary; as the Mother of God, it includes the understanding that she mediates the Divine Grace.""""""

Grace is what GOD GIVES as SALVATION.
Your cult teaches that Mary does it, also.

Notice that you think of her as still a VIRGIN.
The NT says she had CHILDREN.
So, how many Lies is that now, that the Catholic Cult has fed you and you swallowed? ??
You have been led to believe that priests can magically change a cookie and some juice into the literal body and blood of Yeshua.
If this was 1960, you'd be told by your Priest's not to read a bible.

 

[Behold]

And there you go again with your lies.
I've destroyed a LOT of anti-Catholics on this forum who didn't make it HALF as easy as YOU do.

Show me the Catholic teaching - from the Catechism - that says Mary can forgive our sins.
Happy hunting . . .

You have not destroyed anything in my case, but you are loud.
Is that how you estimate your point as being correct?

Here is your false churche's teaching on GRACE, and how Mary offers it.
"""""Mediatrix of all graces is a title that the Roman Catholic Church gives to the Blessed Virgin Mary; as the Mother of God, it includes the understanding that she mediates the Divine Grace."""""

See that word Mediatrix?
That is taken from the NT by twisting this verse...>"there is ONE Mediator between God and Man, and that is Jesus The Christ".

So, can you "destroy that" now with more epic Catholic nonsense?
Give it a go.
Dive in headfirst, and let your deception keep on glowing brightly for all here to see.

 

[Behold]

A 50 Ft Mary.

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[Behold]

Here is the Pope worshiping Mary the Statue.
No statue of Jesus anywhere in sight....

Notice the CROWN on Mary's Head.
All QUEEN'S in Heaven wear one....
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[Behold]

More about Mary..

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Five reasons Catholics honour Mary in May

MARIAN FEST. In his 1965 encyclical, Mense Maio, Pope Paul VI wrote about the importance of Mary’s intercession for all the world, explaining that those who encounter her, encounter her Son, Jesus. the Catholic Church has dedicated May in her honour, writes MARGE FENELON.


It has been a long-standing Catholic tradition to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary in May. In most Catholic churches (and even in many Catholic homes), a “May Altar” is erected with a statue or picture of Mary, flowers, and perhaps candles. The altar stands from May 1 to 31 as a reminder of Mary’s importance in the life of the Church and in our own lives as well.
Additionally, many Catholic churches and families hold a “May Crowning,” presenting Mary with a crown made of blossoms or other hand-crafted materials to signify her queenship as the mother of Christ, the King. I’ve even seen some crowns made of glistening metal and synthetic jewels.

Why May?
The tradition dates all the way back to the ancient Greeks who dedicated the month of May to Artemis, the goddess of fecundity. Romans also claimed May to honour Flora, the goddess of bloom or blossoms. They celebrated “floral games” at the end of April and petitioned Flora’s intercession for all that blooms. In medieval times, a tradition arose of expelling winter at this time of year, since May 1 was considered the start of new growth.
It was during the Middle Ages (11th century) that the idea of giving the month of May to Mary began with an old tradition, the “30-Day Devotion to Mary”, which was originally held August 15 to September 14. During the month, special devotions to Mary were organised, and this custom, which began in Italy eventually spread elsewhere.

Catholics in general honour Mary during May. Here are five reasons why it makes sense to honour her this month.

1. Mary is Jesus’ mother.
She is the instrument of the Incarnation and her yes, or fiat, made it possible for our Lord to become the God-Man who was Crucified for our salvation.

2. She is the first and most perfect disciple.
Mary was the first to hear the Good News, and the first to follow Christ. Her entire life was devoted to him and assisting him, in whatever way she could, to carry on his mission. Unaffected by Original Sin, she was able to perfectly open herself to God’s will.

3. She is our mom.
No, really. She is. To put it simply, she’s our mother because we are all members of the Body of Christ. Since she gave birth to that Body, then she’s our mother, too. At the moment she gave her fiat, she became our mother in the order of grace. She may not have given birth to us physically, BUT SHE HAS CERTAINLY GIVEN BIRTH TO US SPIRITUALLY .

4. She loves you more than you can ever imagine.
If she did not, would she have endured the horror of seeing her Son tortured, scourged, crowned with thorns, carry the Cross to Calvary, and die a gruesome death on it? She did it for you, for all of us, because she understood that Jesus’ Passion and Crucifixion was the only way to your (our) salvation. She loves you like no human mother ever could.

5. Mary is advocate, helper, benefactress and MEDIATRIX .
Her job, so to speak, began at the moment she conceived Jesus in her womb and continues until this day. What is more, it will continue for all eternity. As the first and most perfect disciple, she is devoted to accompanying him and continuing her saving office by INTERCEDING FOR US SO THAT WE MAY RECEIVE THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION .
She is at work 24/7/365/forever, for whatever we need, whenever we need it.
For all these reasons and more, Mary deserves honour, not only during the month of May, but always.

 

[ChristisGod]

More about Mary..

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Five reasons Catholics honour Mary in May

MARIAN FEST. In his 1965 encyclical, Mense Maio, Pope Paul VI wrote about the importance of Mary’s intercession for all the world, explaining that those who encounter her, encounter her Son, Jesus. the Catholic Church has dedicated May in her honour, writes MARGE FENELON.


It has been a long-standing Catholic tradition to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary in May. In most Catholic churches (and even in many Catholic homes), a “May Altar” is erected with a statue or picture of Mary, flowers, and perhaps candles. The altar stands from May 1 to 31 as a reminder of Mary’s importance in the life of the Church and in our own lives as well.
Additionally, many Catholic churches and families hold a “May Crowning,” presenting Mary with a crown made of blossoms or other hand-crafted materials to signify her queenship as the mother of Christ, the King. I’ve even seen some crowns made of glistening metal and synthetic jewels.

Why May?
The tradition dates all the way back to the ancient Greeks who dedicated the month of May to Artemis, the goddess of fecundity. Romans also claimed May to honour Flora, the goddess of bloom or blossoms. They celebrated “floral games” at the end of April and petitioned Flora’s intercession for all that blooms. In medieval times, a tradition arose of expelling winter at this time of year, since May 1 was considered the start of new growth.
It was during the Middle Ages (11th century) that the idea of giving the month of May to Mary began with an old tradition, the “30-Day Devotion to Mary”, which was originally held August 15 to September 14. During the month, special devotions to Mary were organised, and this custom, which began in Italy eventually spread elsewhere.

Catholics in general honour Mary during May. Here are five reasons why it makes sense to honour her this month.

1. Mary is Jesus’ mother.
She is the instrument of the Incarnation and her yes, or fiat, made it possible for our Lord to become the God-Man who was Crucified for our salvation.

2. She is the first and most perfect disciple.
Mary was the first to hear the Good News, and the first to follow Christ. Her entire life was devoted to him and assisting him, in whatever way she could, to carry on his mission. Unaffected by Original Sin, she was able to perfectly open herself to God’s will.

3. She is our mom.
No, really. She is. To put it simply, she’s our mother because we are all members of the Body of Christ. Since she gave birth to that Body, then she’s our mother, too. At the moment she gave her fiat, she became our mother in the order of grace. She may not have given birth to us physically, BUT SHE HAS CERTAINLY GIVEN BIRTH TO US SPIRITUALLY .

4. She loves you more than you can ever imagine.
If she did not, would she have endured the horror of seeing her Son tortured, scourged, crowned with thorns, carry the Cross to Calvary, and die a gruesome death on it? She did it for you, for all of us, because she understood that Jesus’ Passion and Crucifixion was the only way to your (our) salvation. She loves you like no human mother ever could.

5. Mary is advocate, helper, benefactress and MEDIATRIX .
Her job, so to speak, began at the moment she conceived Jesus in her womb and continues until this day. What is more, it will continue for all eternity. As the first and most perfect disciple, she is devoted to accompanying him and continuing her saving office by INTERCEDING FOR US SO THAT WE MAY RECEIVE THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION .
She is at work 24/7/365/forever, for whatever we need, whenever we need it.
For all these reasons and more, Mary deserves honour, not only during the month of May, but always.

I noticed there was not a single scripture used to verify anything above is true. Do you have scriptures for your points ?

 

[Behold]

And let us not forget to celebrate Mary.
Here is the "feast of Assumption".
Its all about Mary.
No Jesus Required.
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LIFESTYLE
More Than 100,000 People Celebrate Feast of Assumption of Virgin Mary
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[Behold]

I noticed there was not a single scripture used to verify anything above is true. Do you have scriptures for your points ?

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that Mary had Children, and the Pope and the Catholic Cult says she's a "blessed virgin"?
yes i do.

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that There is one Savior, one Way to Heaven, one mediator between man and God and its not the Queen of Heaven (mediatrix)
Yes i do.

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that to worship an Idol, is an abomination before God?
yes i do.
See the above Photos, in my Previous Post, if you need more clarification.

Be careful what you try to defend, as you can sometimes... by trying to play the umpire role,.... find yourself in bed with the Devil.

 

[ChristisGod]

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that Mary had Children, and the Pope and the Catholic Cult says she's a "blessed virgin"?
yes i do.

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that There is one Savior, one Way to Heaven, one mediator between man and God and its not the Queen of Heaven (mediatrix)
Yes i do.

Do i have a New Testament that teaches that to worship an Idol, is an abomination before God?
yes i do.
See the above Photos, in my Previous Post, if you need more clarification.

Be careful what you try to defend, as you can sometimes... by trying to play the umpire role,.... find yourself in bed with the Devil.

I'm definitely against the RCC

 

[Philip James]

Mother Mary,
St Dominic,

Pray for us!