Wrangler
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No. I am untwisting the trinitarian twist on unitarian text. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the concept.You are twisting and perverting the scriptures man!
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No. I am untwisting the trinitarian twist on unitarian text. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the concept.You are twisting and perverting the scriptures man!
@praise-yeshua...leave your opponent, I am not at all offended in what he is sayingDishonest..... Lets see.... You are LYING. Do you teaching yourself?
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
There is no judgement without the Son. You are a liar just like your father Satan.
YOU WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD.... Jesus Christ.
You should be afraid. VERY afraid.
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Chill a bit...Calm down so you can begin to think more clearly and lower the emotional and physical stress you are placing on your heart and brain. I do not know who you are as of yet, besides one who is long on short words like saying liar and 'be afraid very afraid' and short on longer explanations that makes sense and communicate and exchange actual meaningful ideas.Dishonest..... Lets see.... You are LYING. Do you teaching yourself?
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
There is no judgement without the Son. You are a liar just like your father Satan.
YOU WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD.... Jesus Christ.
You should be afraid. VERY afraid.
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Jesus isn't lying when he says he has a Father and God at John 20:17 That person who is Jesus Father and God is his apostles and disciples Father and God, including Thomas. So what Thomas said can't contradict what Jesus said.Oh..I see
Guess Thomas was "off color" upon his confession and we can "cut out" John 1:1..
J.
@praise-yeshua...leave your opponent, I am not at all offended in what he is saying
Rom_16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
..while you and I ... press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Php_3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
No. The Scriptures should cause mockers to fear. They have plenty to fear. They are mocking the rightful position of Messiah.
The Lord has shown you and I mercy and grace and we should love, even our enemies, enemies of the cross...surely you can show mercy since we are all broken pots?
J.
LOL Sons are their father now? Wow, you got it bad - and can only offer slander.
I see you have some questions so I collected some thoughts for them.You are twisting and perverting the scriptures man!
Who is the Memra?
Who exactly is GOD AND/KAI..HIS WORD! and don't forget the PROS..
Truth is an absolute defense to your false charges of slander.
Anyone can see what you've done. You're ignoring the fact the Father has demanded that you honor Jesus Christ just exactly as you honor Him.
Don't you grasp language usage? Honoring Being B the same as Being A is honored does not mean Being A and Being B are the same being. Your claim is NOT the same as the Father demanding we give His glory to his Son. What did Jesus say when asked about paying taxes? He did NOT say render unto the Son what you render onto the Father.
He said render onto God what is God's. This God, he told us how to pray to; he is our Father, who is in heaven. Jesus was neither, in heaven nor the Father.
You dishonor Jesus Christ.
Honoring God is not dishonoring his son.
Isn't this saying that the Apostle Peter was lying when he said to Jesus that Jesus was the Christ the Son of the living God? Peter wasn't claiming that Jesus was, the living God, but that he was the Son of the living God. So I believe what Peter confessed that Jesus is the Son of the living God not that Jesus is the living God.
The scriptures are very clear that the True God YHWH who is the Father and God of Jesus Christ has subjected everything and everyone to his Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ. So yes, as John 5:22,23 say the true God YHWH has subjected all authority to his Only Begotten Son Jesus, including judging, but we also understand that when the True God YHWH subjected everyone and everything to his Only Begotten Son the Father and God of Jesus who is YHWH God isn't subject to Jesus but Jesus is subject to his Father and God who is YHWH God.
1Corinthians 15:22-28. Did you notice in John 5:23 that this arrangement that the Father and God has set up, that if you exercise faith in this arrangement that YHWH God has set up making everything and everyone subject to his Son and that if you don't exercise faith that the True God YHWH has subjected all authority to his Only Begotten Son then you're not exercising faith in the one who sent his Son to mankind. The True God YHWH is the person who sent his Only Begotten Son to mankind. So here in these scriptures they show that YHWH God and his Only Begotten Son are not the same person.
In the scriptures in Hebrews chapter 10 verse 30 the phrase, "the Lord" in that scripture is speaking about YHWH God not Jesus Christ. We can understand this because Jesus isn't the living God. He's the Son of the living God as the apostle Peter testified at Matthew 16:15,16.
Dishonoring The Son is dishonoring The Father.
I have not read one post yet that says someone does not honor the Son of God, of our Father. Why do you keep writing that some one does not honor the Son? Is it because they do not specially write the words you want to hear? Ask then specifically next time and you will not have to assume it anymore.Dishonoring The Son is dishonoring The Father. Again. Like your father Satan, you hate the Scriptures.
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
You refuse to equally honor the Father and Son as demanded by the Scriptures. There is no separation between the Father and the Son. Satan tried to the do the same thing. He failed. You fail.
You will answer to the Son of God soon.