Do you support Black Lives Matter?

[Joseph77]

So it is best not to support such terrorists ?

 

[Yehren]

BLM are a marxist organization by their own decree.

Hmm... let's take a look...

WHAT WE BELIEVE
Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.


Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.


Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.


These are the results of our collective efforts.


The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.


Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.


We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.


We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.


We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.


We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.


We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.


We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.


We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.


We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.


We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.


We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.


We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.


We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.


We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).


We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.


We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

Not entirely in agreement with everything I advocate, but no Marxism there.

 

[Joseph77]

Sin is sin. Even if it is not Marxism.

 

[Jacob Marley]

Hmm... let's take a look...

WHAT WE BELIEVE
Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.


Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.


Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.


These are the results of our collective efforts.


The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.


Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.


We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.


We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.


We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.


We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.


We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.


We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.


We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.


We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.


We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.


We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.


We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.


We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.


We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).


We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.


We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

Not entirely in agreement with everything I advocate, but no Marxism there.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

 

[Yehren]

Men Tied To Right-Wing Extremism Arrested Heading To BLM Protest With Molotov Cocktails
Men Tied To Right-Wing Extremism Arrested Heading To BLM Protest With Molotov Cocktails

So it is best not to support such terrorists ?

I think not. The FBI classifies them as the most serious terrorist threat to the United States.

FBI Again Warns That Right Wing Extremists Are Biggest Terror Threat
FBI Again Warns That Right Wing Extremists Are Biggest Terror Threat - The Ring of Fire Network

 

[Yehren]

Sin is sin. Even if it is not Marxism.

And sin is between the sinner and God.

As you see, the Marxist charge is clearly false.

 

[Yehren]

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

So she's a Marxist, but didn't make Marxism part of BLM? That makes sense. She was trying to bring together a coalition of all sorts of people.

 

[Yehren]

This would be like calling republicans KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

 

[Jacob Marley]

So she's a Marxist, but didn't make Marxism part of BLM? That makes sense. She was trying to bring together a coalition of all sorts of people.

But it is part of it. Hence why Marxism and BLM have the same stance on the idea of the "West."

 

[Jacob Marley]

This would be like calling democrats KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

If their goals align.....just a coincidence.

 

[Joseph77]

Some Goals of Some Canadians Align with the kkk, others with the apostate church, etc etc

If their goals align..... just a coincidence ?

 

[Jacob Marley]

Some Goals of Some Canadians Align with the kkk, others with the apostate church, etc etc

If their goals align..... just a coincidence ?

If KKK members started an organization with same goals.....then yes obviously. Yehren adjusted the comparison from the original BLM members, not me....i'm just rolling with it.

 

[Yehren]

This would be like calling republicans KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

(Marley revises the post)

Yehren said: ↑
This would be like calling democrats KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

If their goals align.....just a coincidence.

If you have to change my posts and pretend that I wrote it, that's probably a pretty good clue as to your character and intentions. No matter what you do from here on out, that will stay with you. There isn't too much that I'll call people out for, but that kind of dishonesty will do it. Was it worth it?

 

[Yehren]

So she's a Marxist, but didn't make Marxism part of BLM? That makes sense. She was trying to bring together a coalition of all sorts of people.

But it is part of it. Hence why Marxism and BLM have the same stance on the idea of the "West."

But you can't show us that it's true. We all know why. Why not just admit that the BLM statement of purpose has no Marxist doctrine in it?

 

[Behold]

This would be like calling republicans KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

That would be like calling Biden supporters socialists, because most of them hate the USA and want to turn it into Mexico City or the MESA..."Middle East States of America".

98.345% of Biden supporters of Biden Hate 5 Things.

1. The USA
2. Guns
3. God
4. Babies being born when an Abortion could have prevented it.
5. White People who aren't Gay

 

[Jacob Marley]

This would be like calling republicans KKK members because some of their officials are members of the KKK.

(Marley revises the post)





If you have to change my posts and pretend that I wrote it, that's probably a pretty good clue as to your character and intentions. No matter what you do from here on out, that will stay with you. There isn't too much that I'll call people out for, but that kind of dishonesty will do it. Was it worth it?

That change was obviously mine(in jest), and all could see....if you want to judge me by that, I can't stop you.

 

[Jacob Marley]

So she's a Marxist, but didn't make Marxism part of BLM? That makes sense. She was trying to bring together a coalition of all sorts of people.



But you can't show us that it's true. We all know why. Why not just admit that the BLM statement of purpose has no Marxist doctrine in it?

Because BLM are it's founders. It's not like any other group, and there are many, must adhere to that list to consider themselves "followers" sort to speak. And in the end, it will ultimately come down to actions.

 

[Yehren]

(nothing in the BLM statement of purpose that is Marxist)

Not entirely in agreement with everything I advocate, but no Marxism there.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

And yet there is no Marxist doctrine in the BLM statement. Have you figured out why, yet?

 

[Yehren]

hat change was obviously mine(in jest),

Sure it was. You did something dishonest. You got caught. Learn from that.

 

[Yehren]

Because BLM are it's founders. It's not like any other group, and there are many, must adhere to that list to consider themselves "followers" sort to speak.

As you learned, that statement has no Marxist doctrine.